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exile not as bad as we thought?

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ArcaneLegend

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exile not as bad as we thought?

a guy on another forum claims that his exile boosts his def from 19k to 42k, and that he has enuf DR from his other gear, and i believe him because it is possible. HOW THE HELL DO U HIT THAT GUY!?

consider it BM if u want...but thats reality out there. im starting to think SS is really just another good shield for the poorer zealots.

heres his exact post:
"My exiles boost me from around 19k to 42k Def, without this def almost any good zealot will 5 hit zeal me and own me. +2 Offensive Skills, you need it for Fana, more DMG, More Speed. Ed/AR I think I don't have to explain this. Life Tap on this shield is just godly, with 4fps attack you will Tap any character in less then 2 Zeal and might get ALL your life back from it. Defiance Aura and Huge def is What most ppl are looking for. I got a 1264/56%ed/116AR Exile and wouldn't trade it for any other Shields.

The Reason why I don't use SS is because I get my DR from other items I need and I don't need resists in Melee Dueling.

Alma Negra just plain sucks in dueling, might be a good Shield for Hammerdins who can't get HoZ tho.


Here are my Stats
Str: 165
Dex: 200
Vita:Lot
Energy: none

Thats without my stuff."

uh...ignore his stats btw...with those stats he can only get 210 base vita at lvl 99, which is no where near "Lot". and i did post a comparison between a life tap wand and exile's life tap.
 
easy

smite=pwned

smite+ lacerator= super pwned


im not too sure about getting 42k def with a exile..sounds iffy
 
lol tor i was just about to post that exact same thing.He can have all the def he wants but he will still be smote.And yes lacerator+smite=ouchies.Im a big advocate for lacerators on pub smiters but cant really find any other use for it.
 
AznAvatar said:
Alma Negra just plain sucks in dueling, might be a good Shield for Hammerdins who can't get HoZ tho.
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To me, that's like sticking a "I am a newb, please bear with me" sticker on your forehead.

Grem
 
mrJ said:
My zealot uses ss.

My zealot has 40k defense.

I'm not sure where to go from here.

Yeah
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You could have at least mentioned The berlin wall...and the pointlessness of it!!
 
My zealot uses Alma Negra

i have 31k defense.

still think exile is pointless,

this proves that once again.

:thumbsup:
 
AznAvatar said:
Alma Negra just plain sucks in dueling, might be a good Shield for Hammerdins who can't get HoZ tho.
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No...it isn't. Rare pally shields are better for Hammerdin and are easier to find. As for melee, it is more than halfway decent. Recall that there are GC's that endow their user with +skills.
 
mortic said:
22.5k ar
35k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/exile = 33%

eth templar/exile/angelics:
20k ar
45k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/hoz = 36%

As you can see there is no real bonus from the defense and defiance of exile. From experience exile will win if life tap is casted when the exile user still has over 50% life left. Otherwise, other shield user has the advantage of higher damage.
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That's how you hit someone with 45k defense. The difference between the two is negligible. And yes, if someone has 19k defense without Exile, they will get KO'ed in one or two zeals. That is obscenely low defense whether or not you are an Exile user. By the way Kelvin, stop by Temple sometime. It's been ages since we've seen you.
 
sure thing man, ill show up sometime lol. btw ud be interested to see what i posted there next:

ArcaneSupremacy said:
with those stats u could only have 210 base vita at lvl 99. hows that a lot?

if u want life tap that badly, go get urself a life tap wand. there...100% chance to cast life tap before dueling.

edit: ok...it didnt take me long to realize ur either lying or u read ur numbers wrong. if ur exile boosts ur def from 19k to 42k, thats a 23k increase. a lvl 16 defiance (assuming thats what ur exile has) increases def by 220%, which means that in order to get a 23k def boost, ur base def must be about 10454. even if ur wearing all eth-zod bugged equipment, ur not likely to get anywhere near that much base def. nice try tho.
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that was me btw.

o yea...lol u guys need to teach me how to get so much def with just an SS.
 
exile is very bm but i do love it when a zealer or smiter comes in wearing exile doom draculs so u get frozen and lifetap it really makes me happy :yep:


then they say wow im the best zealer/smiter here :rant:
 
O_O what did i do?! :uhhuh:

exile is basically an unbalancing, unfun thing for people to claim they're pwnage. they get satisfaction from being cheapasses and somehow get this superiority complex that makes me laugh even more.

going elemental on their *** is fun, especially since most will use base shields with ed/ar automods instead of resists. much, much harder to tank elemental damage when you're preoccupied with damage, huh? :drool:
 
Smite + lacerator is good combi but lacerator has range weapon 1, what happen if u encounter a smiter with range weapon 3? Does it mean they hit you more often?
Thx
 
Zigot_HD said:
Smite + lacerator is good combi but lacerator has range weapon 1, what happen if u encounter a smiter with range weapon 3? Does it mean they hit you more often?
Thx
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I don't think range affects the duel if you just go toe-to-toe. One thing though, range 1 weapon sucks to charge with and you'll end up in lots of charge-locks. That's why range 3 weapons usually are better.
 
My friends zealot goes from 27k to 49k using exile, so i guess its not unrealistic.
 
Bash_ said:
My friends zealot goes from 27k to 49k using exile, so i guess its not unrealistic.
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perhaps he (and the other guy) are talking about having no shield compared to using exile, if so, then this is no great feat as holy shield bonus def will be turned off whiel shield is off, so when exile is on it adds 1k def +up to 600% def to the total with the shield, making it easy to jump 22k, or else im completely wrong as is the norm :)
 
Bigru said:
perhaps he (and the other guy) are talking about having no shield compared to using exile, if so, then this is no great feat as holy shield bonus def will be turned off whiel shield is off, so when exile is on it adds 1k def +up to 600% def to the total with the shield, making it easy to jump 22k, or else im completely wrong as is the norm :)
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Indeed that was my initial thought as well.
 
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