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In my martial arts, we measure the training sticks with fists. The standart stick is 8 fists.

@Eddie: Congrats on putting away the "ex" title. I remember when you refered to her as "wife" :)
 
So are you saying that's not a 4ft sword in your pants? Or that you're not pleased to see me?

Pijus said:
Congrats on putting away the "ex" title. I remember when you refered to her as "wife"

Happier tiems. Maybe we'll reach that peak again.
 
Well "Spinning: the DVD" has a couple of old women and some yarn and spinning wheels on the cover, but I can sort of see how it might be confused with turntablism. :D

And that is, indeed, a 4 ft sword in my pants, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with being happy to see Eddie, though I'm always happy to see Ed. And, Ed, I'm keeping good thoughts for you with the not-quite-ex-but-not-quite-wife and hoping your relationship keeps moving forward.

Good times. Coffee, skim and sweet, if you please. I'm not hungover either, but certainly am in need of coffee (and a nap later).
 
Yay for bokken practicing! I'm not sure how much you've done, but when you do it a bit, you begin to pick up smaller details in open-handed techniques you may miss. I guess it's just while doing the same/similar technique with a bokken, you become more aware of the sword techniques and movements the open-handed aikido techniques are based on. If that makes sense.
I'll have to pick up my bokken practice again - I haven't been for a while.

Nickel Creek are interesting - never heard that style before. And is that little guitar thing a mandolin? I like the music, but it's somehow different to the genres I've heard.

Oh, and while I'm keeping out of a particular conversation going on now due to a rather erhm... drunken post I made a while back, I wish you well, and hope things keep moving forward.
 
A bokken is a wooden training sword, so if you help one hand 'nearer' the middle, you may actually be holding the blade.
A Bo/Jo staff can be held with one hand near the centre, so maybe what you were thinking of?

I may've misinterpreted the question, but not completely sure.
 
How much practising have I done Drys? About fifteen minutes :-(

JSG, those words mean a lot. You're a gem of a man. I hope you find a reliable job soon, although if you want to keep working for weird British men, I'd hire you.
 
@Drystan: Ah, I see. I like bokken better than Jo/Bo staff :D

I have a 1.2 meter long metal rod to practice long stick swings with. A heavy tool is great to train your whole body to work together.
 
That's an impressive tool you have there Pijus.

I was always told that by working as slow as possible you build up much more 'muscle memory', to help you learn, but you may be at a far more advanced level than I, or indeed a more casual one.

I remember twirling sticks carefree in the back garden, pretending I was Donatello, all those years ago. Apparently that won't cut it in the dojo :P
 
I'm abit too lazy in the head to formulate this sentence, but the essence is this:

Correctly rather than fast.

Do you have sparring, or some sort of equivalent in aikido?
 
Not at my level, no. I believe at higher levels a certain amount of 'freestyling' is required, especially for grading purposes.

@Drys: So do you do aikido as well? How long have you studied? Incidentally, Pijus doesn't classify it as a martial art, I think we should gang up on him, or at least stop him using Durf's credit card at the EMB.
 
Well, I got mine from a certain Dr. Puerta...
:grin: :grin:

I might try that stuff, I think there's an REI somewhere around here.



And is that little guitar thing a mandolin? I like the music, but it's somehow different to the genres I've heard.
Yeah, it's a mandolin. You don't see it much outside of bluegrass, it's basically a tiny guitar with 12 strings. Their style isn't pure bluegrass, it's got a bit of Celtic and some mainstream elements, but I like it.

*grabs a Dew from the fridge*
 
Greetings Bar, been a while, how's it going

Handing in my master's thesis in next week hopefully, that is a tiger in my underwear at the moment

Hope everyone else having problems are getting through them

@FE: ah, she has a name; does she know about your mistress (the EMB)
 
Pijus said:
I'm abit too lazy in the head to formulate this sentence, but the essence is this:

Correctly rather than fast.
Very true. Correct techniques at a slow speed to practice at first. Like anything - a musical instrument - the speed comes later after the technique has become routine.

Pijus said:
Do you have sparring, or some sort of equivalent in aikido?

Fast Eddie said:
Not at my level, no. I believe at higher levels a certain amount of 'freestyling' is required, especially for grading purposes.
Aikido is a bit different to the other martial arts. Traditional (Japanese aikido) teachings are non-competitive, non-aggressive and passive. Today's techniques are not really about learning to be able to brutally injure and kill someone. Sure, you can, but the traditional teachings are more self-development - more a way of life, than just learning to be able to fight or throw a punch/kick.
Knowing this, you can understand that being non-competitive, there isn't really a huge emphasis on sparring.

There is a certain practice when one is about the Dan rankings (effectively black belt and onwards,) called Jiyu Waza (spent 10 minutes trying to find the spelling of 'Jiyu,' until I looked at my grading syllabus sheet,) which is more of a "freeform technique" that has one person doing the techniques, and multiple attackers. While this is practiced throughout aikido at times, it's more for grading purposes of the senior ranked members.
It's to help with improving fluidity - instead of repeating one technique over and over, to use the mind to change and perform multiple techniques in quick succession.

There are non-traditional aikido's that have more emphasis on sparring, but they've also lost the original principles behind aikido - they're based more on fighting, and such, have adopted techniques from various other martial arts (as most do over time.)
These use the same locks and techniques from traditional aikido, but also mix them in with other martial arts (hapkido, jujitsu etc,) and have lost the non-aggressive nature all together. Effectively, the locks and techniques are used in a 'sharper' nature, aimed to cause more injury and pain to the attacker.
And some of their techniques look absolutely brutal! You can see the aikido techniques in them, but you'd hate to be on the receiving end of them - even in a practice situation.

Fast Eddie said:
@Drys: So do you do aikido as well? How long have you studied? Incidentally, Pijus doesn't classify it as a martial art, I think we should gang up on him, or at least stop him using Durf's credit card at the EMB.
I've practiced aikido for probably 5-6 years now. That's the aikido spirit! Gang up on him. :) I'll hide behind the couch and take his feet, you push him!
Durf's card is still around?


Thanks for the info pancake, and GL with your thesis LHTB!
 
I doubt Eddie will still want to participate in the ganging up on me after I showed him a video of what sparring looks like in our... hmmm....

How would you call a small group of people who learn martial arts from another more experienced person?

Drystan, maybe you want to see that video? The sparing is a little more careful in the beginners group, which is where I go.
 
http://eskrima.ktv.lt/video.htm

Most of the people in these videos don't come to training any more. Jobs, kids and stuff...

My(and everyone elses) teacher is the short guy with the dark grey(or is it black?) T-shirt and grey pants.

And as I said, in the beginners class sparing is somewhat more careful. Enjoy :D
 
@LHTB: Nice to see you back! Good luck with your thesis. Are you planning a return to D2 when it is finally done?

That's the aikido spirit! Gang up on him. :)

A belly-laugh before breakfast. Simply awesome! Thank you for the information Dryst, that's surprisingly clear and succinct, and filled in a lot of gaps. I know you can't learn anything over the internet, but are there any materials you might be able to recommend? I wish I could practise more in my local area - A secondary incentive to learn to drive perhaps.

We don't have a dojo, we have... a school sports hall with some crash mats. But hey, I'm not complaining.

Have a great day bar. A fruit tea for me, I'm not drinking this weekend.


 
Interesting video Pijus - never seen anything like that before.

@Fast Eddie
Unfortunately, I don't think I can provide anything else. The dojo I belong to is associated with the a Japanese dojo - we are a sub-branch of theirs, so my information is based on our particular style. There are a large number more styles, each with their own variations, so I can only tell you my experiences, and will be completely biased that way. Others could give slight variations, or differing opinions altogether because of their own particular form.
As to material, I really don't know. 'Some' youtube clips are actually pretty decent, but like everything else, should not be the sole source. One single fighting technique will never be the be-all-end-all, so I like to look at various sources to get a more wholistic view. Some youtube videos are good, while others aren't.
The problem is, those fake videos are all over the place, but I'll give a couple I've found and enjoyed.

Good martial art clips. <- Language warning. (Take it lightly. ;) )
Not so good, but has a meaning. <- Ok, enough of those.

I do find this style a little offensive - it's "Real Aikido," but it appears to have lost the passive/non-aggressive nature of the original aikido, so loses what makes aikido, aikido. It did however combine multiple martial arts, which I do like, and also provides more solid teachings (ie - shows that it can be effective in regards to the Youtube flame wars - "X isn't effective blah blah blah.") The techniques are very similar (in some cases identical,) but they are more solid than I learn here, and are demonstrated very well. I hope that one day I can do the techniques that solidly, but most of that persons videos are all good techniques.
However, in a 'real life' situation (youtube argument,) it wouldn't be that fluent - this is still a training video, and does not even try to claim it's a real life situation. Any training one does is of great benefit in my opinion.

Another thing to look up if you're intested is some videos of people doing their Dan rankings. I've seen a few of them, but can't find any now. Also, if you're interested, look for some older videos.

There are some things in some old aikido clips that I don't believe though. But seeing some videos of any martial art is still interesting if you can't practice frequently, and have some knowledge of the practice itself.
 
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