Crafting

[corax1]

Crafting

Ok first a question:
Why do crafted dual leech blood rings have such an insane lvl req. lvl 96. why is it this high? ive crafted 3 of these so far and they've all had this req. is that the lowest they go when they have dual leech?

ok another question:
which crafts are you favourites and which do you use the most?

 

[Rizzo]

Dunno about the lvl req, but don't think so. I've crafted a couple of double leech but don't think they had such an insane lvl requirement :scared:
About the other question, I craft mostly rings or gloves, both blood. Also amulets once in a while, but I gamble amulets more than crafting. I'd like to try crafting some weapons soon, hoping for that rediculous 510% enhanced damage...

 

[bradley_turner]

no, they get lower, usually a combination of mods that push lvl req up so much, wanna post atma readouts?

i like to use the caster ammy and blood ammy recipes, caster more, but i never have enough perfect amethysts

 

[corax1]

i sold them all. they all had useless other mods though. like 5% fire res and 7% MF and little things like that,
at the moment im crafting blood zerker and glorious axes. although larzuk is relucant to sell

like this axe
Raven Thirst
War Axe
One-Hand Damage: 32 to 33
Durability: 24 of 26
Required Strength: 67
Required Level: 90
Axe Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 93
Fingerprint: 0x37163325
+15 to Life
+68% Enhanced Damage
+25 to Attack Rating
+16 to Minimum Damage
Poison Resist +10%
1% Life stolen per hit
Socketed (2: 0 used)

i bought it and used it because it was a berserkers war axe and i just read berserker :grrr:

 

[frosty]

Weird, the highest mod I see is the min damage one, which is lvl 76....

What is the level of the char you are using to craft this thing?

 

[corax1]

lvl 91 sorc
how about these gloves
Glyph Hand
Heavy Gloves
Defense: 8
Durability: 10 of 14
Required Level: 57
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0xcaeb28f1
+13 to Life
+22% Enhanced Defense
6% Life stolen per hit
20% Increased Attack Speed
8% Chance of Crushing Blow
+2 to Javelin and Spear Skills (Amazon Only

pity about the defense mod. could have been something like resists

 

[Hrus]

Blood Gloves at most:
+19 Life
Lightning Resist +28%
LL 3%
ML 3%
16% MF
8% CB
14% chance to cast lvl 5 Charged Bolt when struck
(Furysin uses that)
or
+4 STR
+11 Life
Lightning resist +11%
3% LL
20% IAS
6% CB
+2 Javelin and Spear Skills
(Pure lightning javazon loves that)

also blood axes, but the best so far is:
Tomahawk:
+15 Life
+333% ED
+175 AR
8% LL

 

[Dodgydave]

I've mainly crafted blood amulets and gloves. Maybe some rings but if so none were any good since I haven't kept any. :lol:

This is my favourite craft:

Fiend Knuckle
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 34
Durability: 14 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 57
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x9430b3f0
+8 to Dexterity
+20 to Life
Cold Resist +16%
Poison Resist +26%
3% Life stolen per hit
20% Increased Attack Speed
10% Chance of Crushing Blow

and this is probably the best ammy:

Chaos Necklace
Amulet
Required Level: 89
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 92
Fingerprint: 0xaab24628
+18 to Strength
+16 to Life
+18 to Attack Rating
All Resistances +8
4% Life stolen per hit
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
10% Faster Run/Walk

BTW the high level requirements on the rings could have come from having leech stacking. ie getting the standard leech from the craft plus also rolling leech as one of the random mods - something like this

Plague Eye
Amulet
Required Level: 95
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 93
Fingerprint: 0x928965b9
+63 to Life
+2 to Minimum Damage
10% Life stolen per hit
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
7% Faster Run/Walk

 

[factotum]

I'm not sure, but I think crafted items have a level requirement which is HIGHER than the highest mod on them--not sure how the game calculates this! This is completely different to normal rares, whose level requirement is 75% of the highest level mod.

 

[Drandimere]

Ok first a question:
Why do crafted dual leech blood rings have such an insane lvl req. lvl 96. why is it this high? ive crafted 3 of these so far and they've all had this req. is that the lowest they go when they have dual leech?

ok another question:
which crafts are you favourites and which do you use the most?

I'm guessing that Thrugg has the exact formula for this... I'm at work right now so I don't have it available but Thrugg explained it too me in the Stats forum a few months ago if you want to go search through that, I have it written down at home.

The required level is not only based on WHAT mods are on an item, but HOW MANY mods come on an item. It isn't a matter of having 6 mods and the highest one is lvl 64 - so the required level becomes 64. The combination of mods SCALES UP - and scales up higher on crafted items than on rare items. If a crafted item and rare had the EXACT same mods, the required level on the crafted would always be higher. So, a dual leech of say 3% life, 3% mana by itself wouldn't be all that high. But a 7% / 7% with 4 other mods (especially plus any skills) would be much higher.

I know that dual leech tends to jack up the required levels. One of my favorite crafts are Safety Amulets - I try to get +2 All Skills with 10% Chance to Block. If I do happen to get that combination with dual leech the required level very often goes up over 96.

This one doesn't have + skills but it is a good example of what happens when a crafted has high resist all with just mediocre dual leech:

Ghoul Scarab
Amulet
Required Level: 88
Item Version: 1.10 Expansion
Item Level: 84
Fingerprint: 0x7d6ea2b2
+9% Increased Chance of Blocking
Damage Reduced by 4
Magic Damage Reduced by 1
All Resistances +20
4% Life stolen per hit
7% Mana stolen per hit
10% Chance to cast Level 3 Hydra when struck

 

[Drandimere]

Ok first a question:
Why do crafted dual leech blood rings have such an insane lvl req. lvl 96. why is it this high? ive crafted 3 of these so far and they've all had this req. is that the lowest they go when they have dual leech?

ok another question:
which crafts are you favourites and which do you use the most?

I found it...

Edited down from what Thrugg told me:
rlvl for crafts formula:
max(base item rlvl, random mod rlvls) + 10 + (3 * # of random mods)

Since a ring has no base rlvl and a high level craft will always get 4 mods, the formula simplifies down to (highest random mod rlvl + 22).

So, even if the highest mod is only rlvl 65... on a crafted item you'd need to be clvl 87 to use it....

 

[Uzziah]

I found it...

Edited down from what Thrugg told me:
rlvl for crafts formula:
max(base item rlvl, random mod rlvls) + 10 + (3 * # of random mods)

Since a ring has no base rlvl and a high level craft will always get 4 mods, the formula simplifies down to (highest random mod rlvl + 22).

So, even if the highest mod is only rlvl 65... on a crafted item you'd need to be clvl 87 to use it....

Affixes control the required level of the craft. The formula is rlvl = rlvl(of highest affix) +10 +3x (#of other affixes). So if you have a craft with 3 affixes and the highest affix has a required level (rlvl) of 12 your required level for that craft is 12 + 10 + 3*2 = 28. Since character level controls affix level and the # of affixes that can spawn it also controls the rlvl of the craft.

exactly since your using a clvl 91 sorc your likely (ilvl = .5clvl+.5ilvl) to get a high ilvl which inturn allows a high alvl which has high rlvls associated with it. if you want lower rlvls with your duel leech crafted ring I suggest using a much lower character or gambling rings/getting them from a low level character I suggest keeping your crafts ilvl in the lower ranges

At ilvls 31-50, there's a 60% chance of 2 affixes and a 20% chance each of 3 or 4 affixes.
At ilvls 51-70, there's an 80% chance of 3 affixes and a 20% chance of 4 affixes.

these two ranges are nice ranges for lower rlvl crafts with alot of mods.