CommandoMancer Guide v3.0

My bowazon is pretty good in CH. I have pulled off a 3 vs. 1 with her and almost repeated it (barb got me :( )

I will be starting a Commando on the new Ladder with no gear so I too will be a poor newbie :rolleyes:

I seem to be getting some hate b.net too... Oh well.

~Kbob
 
yes but I'd rather not be among mass 290's and .08 valks.

Also, question: would 7% dual leech from gloves suffice (so I dont have to use GLoomstrap)?
 
Soul Drainers = Bad choice IMO Weaken cast on struck... :cheesy:

I use Dual 3/3 20%ias Crafted Blood gloves, and I find the 3% there enough to let me use Verdungos. Glooms is still a great belt, though.

~Kbob
 
oh yeah good point. I completely overlooked the % cast weaken...bah.

Also, I hear that only IAS on weapons affect the werebear's attack speed.
 
Tar-Ancalimon said:
oh yeah good point. I completely overlooked the % cast weaken...bah.

Also, I hear that only IAS on weapons affect the werebear's attack speed.
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True, so if you plan to be in bear 24/7, then maybe Steelrends or other such big bad gloves would be for you.

~Kbob
 
Ah I see. Its pretty pathetic mentioning the Hand of Broc gloves since they're the lowest gloves in the game, but would you recommend it for someone who doesn't need and/or care about IAS (it has 3% dual leech)
 
Tar-Ancalimon said:
Ah I see. Its pretty pathetic mentioning the Hand of Broc gloves since they're the lowest gloves in the game, but would you recommend it for someone who doesn't need and/or care about IAS (it has 3% dual leech)
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You can craft and find rare gloves with 3% mana leech with far better mods then hands of broc. Use them as fillers but not for end game gloves.

~Kbob
 
Great Guide!!

Well considering i havent played d2 for many months like since the beginning of 1.10 release or something.

Thought i'd drop by and see whats been happening, looks like season 2 is coming... :lol:

After looking around abit, found your guide to be very interesting. No wait... awe inspiring! looks like i will come back to d2 once again. Though i'll have to start from scratch again... doesnt matter anyways since its ladder :lol:

Well thumbs up for the guide!! Great Work! :thumbsup:
 
actually this is my first time reading this guide, kbob... im somewhat tempted to make one now :drool: must.. resist...anyway. great guide. also, im a newb! :thumbsup: thx kbob hehe.

.Axurewrath
 
Nice guide kbob.. I'm not following it to the letter, but my necro certainly takes a lot of cues from your build. I tend to read guides for knowledge and then do my own thing / variations. :) (so less than optimal then.. but mine!)

I'm planning on using Trang's & Arm with a beast on switch.. but I can't decide which weapon to make it - 1h or 2h... because I can only afford one beast (just, pawned everything lol) and also would like to use it on a real Druid bear too. Comments from people who have tried a Champion Axe / Decapitator please?

Dunno why blizz says beast can be made in hammers - no hammers can get 5 socks.. according to arreat. :scratch:

One other thing I'd like to know is whether the IAS on weapon makes a big difference for the Necro werebear like it does on the Druid Werebear? Or is it only using maul skill that it makes a diff, anyone know?

Thanks,

Andy.

(Funny thing is now I have runes, I find my socket eq mule has expired!! Doh! Can't even remember what was on there. ho hum. Such is life...)
 
hazelnut said:
I'm planning on using Trang's & Arm with a beast on switch. but I can't decide which weapon to make it - 1h or 2h... because I can only afford one beast (just, pawned everything lol) and also would like to use it on a real Druid bear too. Comments from people who have tried a Champion Axe / Decapitator please?
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The point is that you need to change the rest of your equipment to make two-handed Meleemancing more viable. With a shield and a one-hander it is that much more easy. If you are willing to change your equip then go for it. Overall I would say that one-handed is slightly better.




hazelnut said:
Dunno why blizz says beast can be made in hammers - no hammers can get 5 socks.. according to arreat. :scratch:
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Both the Maul and Great Maul and the upgrades are Hammers.




hazelnut said:
One other thing I'd like to know is whether the IAS on weapon makes a big difference for the Necro werebear like it does on the Druid Werebear? Or is it only using maul skill that it makes a diff, anyone know?
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Weapon IAS makes all the difference. Check TheDragoons wereform IAS/FHR calculator.
 
Firstly thanks for the helpful reply Mantis.. much appreciated.

Mad Mantis said:
The point is that you need to change the rest of your equipment to make two-handed Meleemancing more viable. With a shield and a one-hander it is that much more easy. If you are willing to change your equip then go for it. Overall I would say that one-handed is slightly better.
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I am willing to change equipment from kbobs suggestions - as I'm already planning to use trangs. Maybe not the optimal, but its what I want to do... :)
Switch between cast & melee modes is the plan. Dunno how it'll play, as this is 1st necro... but I am gonna try it. :lol:

Planning Maras & SoJ & Whisp/Frost for the jewlery - can't think of any changes here that would help with 2h variant, can you?

So only other slot to play with is the boots - planning marrowwalks here, but will take any suggestions with thanks.


Mad Mantis said:
Both the Maul and Great Maul and the upgrades are Hammers.
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They are - you're right they're classed as BIG hammers. I was thinking of 1h hammers, as the mauls dont seem to have the speed/dmg to make up for 2h IMHO.


Mad Mantis said:
Weapon IAS makes all the difference. Check TheDragoons wereform IAS/FHR calculator.
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Ah yes - top stuff. I can't wait... maybe I'll not be playing my werebear druid much anymore then... hehe

Cheers.
 
hazelnut said:
Planning Maras & SoJ & Whisp/Frost for the jewlery - can't think of any changes here that would help with 2h variant, can you?
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If you are relying on the PDagger bug, then no.




hazelnut said:
So only other slot to play with is the boots - planning marrowwalks here, but will take any suggestions with thanks.
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If you use the bug then you will be solid. Otherwise Gore Rider.
 
Mad Mantis said:
If you are relying on the PDagger bug, then no.
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Hadn't planned to, but might be an idea... :thumbsup: Thought fanat would give enough AR, but don't know yet. Frost is so don't get frozen, whisp for HoW - I assume you don't have to keep wearing it once you've cast HoW..


Looking on the calc I'd need 12% OIAS to get 8 frame attack.. no clue how I can get this using trangs without a 15% jewel. Got several, never used one yet. cool.

Thanks Mantis.
:winner:
 
hazelnut said:
Planning Maras & SoJ & Whisp/Frost for the jewlery - can't think of any changes here that would help with 2h variant, can you?
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I use a BK ring over a Soj. My commando uses a 5% LL BK and a perfect Raven. I've been waiting for Whisps to go down in value, because I think the spirit will die too easily. I have a habit of teleporting right into the middle of boss packs to let my minions tear them apart from the inside. :evil:
 
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