Can someone help me with some rune calcs?

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Kefir-Tribe1

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Can someone help me with some rune calcs?

Hello

I could probably do this myself but I'm not much into item drops so I would have to do a lot of research first. So if someone with a little extra time on his/her hands wants to help me out I would be grateful.

The case is: I need enough runes to cube Vex + Gul. My rune luck is a bit... non-existent so I'm not into running any areas because I know I'd die before I'd get them. So it's down to Countess or HF running ("the hard way").

I've done a few tries and the last HF run took just over 5 hours (one character that is). I could probably shave off a few minutes from that, with some better twinking items so let us assume, for the sake of simplicity, that one run will take 5 hours sharp. One countess run takes about 30 - 60 seconds (depending on map) but lets assume 50 seconds/run since I change map a lot (every time I mule).

So the question is. What's my best bet? Countess or HF?

Thanks in advance.
/kefir
 
As I remeber you average .169 Guls per HF (inlcuding cubing) so you would need about 21 - 24 HFs. With your time thats roughly 90 hours.

The normal estimate (also inlcuding cubing) is 500 Countess runs for an Ist (LinkLyle came in around 2300 for a Vex). You are looking at 3000 - 3500 countess runs. Let say 3200 at 50 seconds a run is 160K seconds or 44 Hours. Almost an even Half.

Happy countessing.
 
Well, I'm trying something similar with LK chest runs. 1000 runs done, no good rune yet. I spent about 25 hours. I'm expecting a VEX in about 6000-7000 runs, according to Urlik's guide, but with cubing I hope to get it down to about 5000, which would take about 125 hours.

I admire anybody who can get a char to hell HF in 5 hours. I tried to powerplay my lf zon with heavy twinking, and it still takes at least one hour per act. Did this with other chars as well, meteorb and such, and I never get through with such a speed.
 
Cormallon said:
I admire anybody who can get a char to hell HF in 5 hours. I tried to powerplay my lf zon with heavy twinking, and it still takes at least one hour per act. Did this with other chars as well, meteorb and such, and I never get through with such a speed.
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Zon is the wrong char for this. You really want to try a blizzard sorc or similar. I got mine from zero to guardian in 7 hours and that was regular gameplay, not hardcore rushing (excuse the pun). Still does not compare to DC who got there in 4.5 or so. But yeah, this is definetly possible. You just want something that is fast (teleport) and gets to use it's skills early. That is a given in the blizz sorc as she has useful synergies throughout the tree.

edit: 5999 posts... o.O Get a life fisheh...
 
Nightfish said:
Zon is the wrong char for this. You really want to try a blizzard sorc or similar. I got mine from zero to guardian in 7 hours and that was regular gameplay, not hardcore rushing (excuse the pun).
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I know, I read about your progress and I'm still wondering how you do that. My blizz sorc isn't that fast, and my meteorb isn't, too. I'm doing the wrong things, I guess. Last time I tried, I tped through A1 and got pwnd in the cloister. It took too long to recover, even 15 minutes spent in the cloister is too long, when you aim at 7 hours to guardian (or even HF).

There are 13 1/2 acts to complete until you get to the HF. 5 hours to get there is an average of 22 minutes per act, including time needed for twinking, assigning stats and skills, and such. Fighting NM Meph, NM Diablo, NM Baal, hell Meph ... these alone take a substantial part of this time, since you don't level that much and skills aren't as high as they could be when you play at least partial clears.

Well, one day I'll learn enough and know how to come closer to these times. My wife is a bit stunned of the speed my zon had, racing through NM in about two days...
 
Kefir-Tribe said:
I need enough runes to cube Vex + Gul.
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I say go for the HF rushing. I've done 3 sets of runs so far and have over Vex + Gul. It's taken me at least 5 hours per set of 7, most of that time is in levelling one character to 20ish.

Get yourself the modified d2gfx.dll and you're good to go.......
 
Okay, thanks folks. I'm not into HF rushing since it's a little on the edge for me (even though I don't have any problems with others doing it). My HF runs are simply getting a character trough the game as fast as possible. The build I've used is a FO/FB sorc and they reach HF at clvl 63. What takes time is normal (3 hours to clvl 42), nightmare and hell takes about 5-15 minutes/act + some time in nightmare, getting to clvl 62 (Shako).

So Countess it is then. She has given me a Mal after ~665 runs so far so... I guess she owes me. :rolleyes: I might do a few more HF runs just to see how far I can push it.
 
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