Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

[o1d_dude]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

From someone with over 15K Pindle runs documented and many more before I started keeping track, the two best pieces of advice so far have been CG in the post above (trade for it and it will drop the next day) and CG in the first response (look for something else).

In my best Cowardly Lion voice: "Ain't it the truth. Ain't it the truth!"

 

[RatMan]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

From someone with over 15K Pindle runs documented and many more before I started keeping track, the two best pieces of advice so far have been CG in the post above (trade for it and it will drop the next day) and CG in the first response (look for something else).

In my best Cowardly Lion voice: "Ain't it the truth. Ain't it the truth!"

Do you pindle experts use recent patches? I thought I read somewhere that his drops were nerfed past 1.10.

 

[ZeN]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

His drops perhaps where nerfed (I recall something of the sorts - he used to drop more items? or all items?) - which doesn't change the fact that he still can drop all but 3 items in the game, always drops 2 items, is stupendously easy to run and can be run with a sorc (for example) loaded up with insane amounts of MF and/or FRW.

 

[Painman]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

His mlvl in Hell is 86, and he can drop from any treasure class, but anything with a qlvl above 86 is a no go.

Arachnid Mesh is a good example. Treasure class is only armo63, but the qlvl is 87, so Pindle won't drop it. OTOH, Meph (who is mlvl 87, and drops up to TC78) can drop Mesh just fine, if he feels like it.

There's only a small handful of items with a really high qlvl like this. IK Soul Cage isn't one of them; Pindle can drop it.

 

[Colorless Green]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

To the best of my knowledge, his drop patterns have not changed since 1.09->1.10, where he did undergo a bit of a restructuring (along with the rest of the game) which made him more difficult to run and (arguably) less profitable.

He can drop all set/unique items besides the cow king's set, arachnid mesh, azurewrath, and tyrael's might, and he is pretty much the best source of exp in the 80s, and he can be run *extremely* fast - my fully equipped 1.12 blizz does an average of ~17s, and I've seen people pull averages of around 15s. This is pretty much unmatchable except for very good (in terms of both build/equip and player skill) a85 runners, who have been able to average ~6s per bosspack.

In other words, yes, he is still perfectly viable post-1.10, and most of the people commenting are running him in whatever the most recent patch is at the time (though many of us did quite a lot of runs in 1.09 and whatnot as well.)

-CG

 

[Painman]

Re: Best way to find IK Soul Cage?

There's some lingering uncertainty about Pindle and the way his item drop characteristics changed vs. the overall changes to item generation introduced in 1.10.

Overall, he's a bit better at dropping the high TC S/U items than he was before 1.10. TC90 was eliminated, all of the items from it were moved to TC87, and the drop tables were tweaked so that high TCs come up more frequently than they did pre-1.10. I don't believe his raw chance of dropping an S/U is improved, but the improved overall chance of TC84 or 87 being selected does factor into Pindle running.

Here's a little bit of drop calc data to demonstrate - raw odds of Pindle dropping Windforce.

1.09:

1 : 99341	Pindleskin - [H]	Nihlathak's Temple - {mlvl 93}

1.10:

1 : 51674	Pindleskin - [H]	Nihlathak's Temple - {mlvl 86}

There are still the handful of things he'll never drop, but for the rest of it, he isn't a bad target at all.