best two handed weapon for zealot?

JEstevam said:
i dunno, but my 2h hc zealot is gonna be intense, just you wait and see!
There is an interesting description of a 2h zealot who completed Hell in the Single Player Forum in this thread: http://www.purediablo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=459373

It's LOD, not Classic, but there are some interesting applicable points there. Bonesnap worked well with Zeal. It was not HC but there weren't many deaths so that may be encouraging for your effort if you are trying. I was thinking that in Classic, perhaps using Woestave (with the great slow on it) may be useful from time to time (swarming fast monsters, maybe bosses) but I think Bonesnap will work well. I'm not sure how long the slow effect from Woestave (or Razortine) lasts but it may be useful on bosses (slow them then switch to Bonesnap) if the duration of the effect is decent. Using the General's flail works well with a 1h Frostalot (esp. with Goblin Toes) but that wouldn't be permitted with your 2h zealot project, presumably.
 
With a Steel, which has 40ias on it, you can get the 8fpa breakpoint with a mere 6 ias extra. So a Twitch will do, or Iratha's gloves with at least 1 other part of the set. Or bloodfist, goldwrap, deaths gloves and 1 other part of the set, or sigs gloves and at least one other sig.

The 7fpa breakpoint lies at 83ias. so you'd need 43 from equip.
Deaths and twitch, or sigons and Twitch.

The fastest (6fpa) zeal breakpoint with a great maul lies at 168ias, so no way to get that in classic, unless you happen to find a great maul with 108ias on it. ;)

I still have to level my martelzealer. My execzealer is going nicely, I think he's 62 or something at the moment. He's a whole lot of fun to play. :)
 
With a level 20 zeal, you only need 50 ias in total to get a great maul to 6fpa.

Now, I am considering a Grim Scythe zealer. It should look cool, sound cool and be fast.
Without zeal, you need 60ias to get the fastest(6fpa) breakpoint. So either go sig gloves & helm, Twitch and goldwrap, or find a Grim Scythe with IAS on it.
10 ias - Nice, you can use deaths and twitch to have cbf
20 ias - Better, either the above, or wear another armor
30 ias - Sweet, just wear deaths and the rest of the gear is a free choose.
40 ias - cream of the crop - only 20 ias needed, so even Iratha's will do.

I guess I will have to go look trough my collection of Grim scythes. Good thing I saved those lower damage, but IAS scythes.
The damage from zeal combined with the speed and gobs should more then make up for the slight lack of damage in my ias scythes.
Hmmm, soon to come, the Grim Scythe-zealer. :)
 
WarlockCC said:
With a level 20 zeal, you only need 50 ias in total to get a great maul to 6fpa.

Now, I am considering a Grim Scythe zealer. It should look cool, sound cool and be fast.
Without zeal, you need 60ias to get the fastest(6fpa) breakpoint. So either go sig gloves & helm, Twitch and goldwrap, or find a Grim Scythe with IAS on it.
10 ias - Nice, you can use deaths and twitch to have cbf
20 ias - Better, either the above, or wear another armor
30 ias - Sweet, just wear deaths and the rest of the gear is a free choose.
40 ias - cream of the crop - only 20 ias needed, so even Iratha's will do.

I guess I will have to go look trough my collection of Grim scythes. Good thing I saved those lower damage, but IAS scythes.
The damage from zeal combined with the speed and gobs should more then make up for the slight lack of damage in my ias scythes.
Hmmm, soon to come, the Grim Scythe-zealer. :)

LOL ... I got some scythes too ... Might have one with ias for you.
I'll have to look though. Can't wait, the Exec one is funny to watch.
So a Grim Scythe would look hilarious :)
 
fledgeling said:
why do you use zeal, if you get 60ias from items?
concentration adds more damage I think(less style tho)

or the cold aura?
That is just it, with a Grim Scythe I can get the fastest breakpoint without fana.
So I can use any other aura I choose. That is what makes such a Grim Scythe zealer so nice. :)

Zeal is the attacktype, so I will go out on a lim and presume you mean fana vs Conc

Level 20 concentration :
Range: 36 Yards
Damage: +345%
Uninterrupt chance: 20%

level 20 fana :
Range: 20 Yards
Attack Rating: +135%
Damage: +373%
Party damage: +186%
Attack Speed: +35%

Conc just gives more party damage, fana gives more damage for your own attacks. But I am guessing I might want to use salvation, or indeed, like you suggest, holy freeze, or perhaps meditation. I will see what my aura will be once I get around to making him.
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I finally found my lower damage Grim Scythes and I guess I will be using this one :
66-155 damage
140 str req
140 dex req
lvl 26 req
30ias
122ed
149ar
5ml
7ll
(No socket, not that I would socket this one, as the damage is too low for that and it already has leech anyway)

All my higher damage scythes are without ias.
I would like to check yours though, TDL.
 
HA ! Found a new Grim Scythe yesterday. Or rather, somebody else found it in CS, sold it in Act 4 and I bought it back(I did need to sell a flawless skull and a 185 leveling mart to be able to buy it)
It's a 178 Grim Scythe.
132 ED, 16 to max, 30ias -30 req.
So now those req's are do-able, 98 each rather then 140 each. saves me some 84 statpoints. :)
 
OK, making the Scythe zealer, he's 45 atm. I have Zeal and Sacrifice filled up, doing 397-1002 damage per zeal hit.
What else should I take ? Note that I would prefer to make him CS viable if at all possible.
I have considered the following :
Fana... Don't need the speed, I already have max bp, damageboost is nice though (Damage: +373% ; Attack Rating: +135%)

Conc... good damageboost. no synergies needed to fill. But most pala's in CS will already have this, so I can use their aura. (Damage: +345% ; Uninterrupt chance: 20%)

Cleansing... Can get the curse time down to 20% of it's normal duration, any idea if I will be able to survive if I get cursed mid-zeal ? Can I still be cursed with high level cleansing on ?

Sanctuary... More damage to undead, exactly what we have a lot of in CS, though the knockback every two seconds can get annoying cause you have to chase the undead then. (Magic damage: 211 - 259 ; Damage to undead: +720% ; Attack To Undead: +1050% ; Undead phyical resistance lowered to 0%) Does it cost 1 mana per 2 seconds ?

Salvation... I have one point in it, should be enough. If I need a few more, I can take them later.

Might... might combine it with Charge to get around quickly and do even more damage if needed. prolly a waste though, cause the benifits of might aren't that great. (Damage: +230%)

Vigor... speeeeeeeed. Could combine with might for charge.

Conviction... Won't do me much good, now will it ? :)

Holy Freeze... 60 points needed to get it to 1k+ elemental damage, which offcourse won't work on 1 third of the enemies.

Holy Shock... 60 points needed to get it to 1-4k damage, bessides the immunes, a lot of monsters have lightning res. (more then cold anyway)

At the moment I am leaning towards Sanc, simply because I don't have that yet on any of my chars and this is one of the few zealers which doesn't need fana for speed.

ideas, thoughts, input ?

Will melee chars ever work in CS again, tune in next week for another exciting episode of batman !
 
Well, I maxed sanctuary. And people in CS wonder what that stuff on the floor is. Not just level 30 chars or something, but level 88+ chars in Hell CS...
I guess Sanctuary is not part of the curriculum anymore.
The damage I do is very nice indeed. Haven't died to IM yet. I wonder if I get all the damage I do to undead returned or just the non-sanctuary portion. Cause I was on deaths door a few times. The damage offcourse doesn't show in the statscreen, since it's damage to undead only. Fortunately, with the use of gobs, I can also kill off Venom Lords. Using undead crown atm aswell. My res is dismal, I can get cold slowed, so I am considering putting on deaths as soon as I can get another pair of gloves.

Anybody know if you don't get the full damage back when you have sanctuary on ? (Sanctuary gives about +740% damage, one hit from me with IM would probably kill me, which it doesn't)
Any strategy thoughts as to how I can use it to my advantage in CS without annoying the hammerdins too much ?

Admit it, it has been a week since I last bored you with this. :)
 
That is good to read, I figured I was boring the pants off people with this due to me being about the only one replying. :)
At the very least I expected to get the 'point and laugh' treatment for using this aura, since I'm sure it doesn't get used with good reason.

You have been in the game with him, but you haven't seen him with aura yet I guess cause I added that more rescently. It's Death_Incarnate.
He's wearing a rockfleece, yours actually, the one he was wearing before has 213 defence and the one I pillaged from the floor(why did you drop it there btw) is 216, hence, updgrade. :)
atm he's still wearing a Duskdeep, though I am considering Arcana's helm.
I will max cleansing aswell just to see how that works in CS.

Bessides this I think I will dust off the hammerdin I made at about the start of 1.10 and level him some. We could do some privy CS'es together with Ash if you are up for it. You both know how to privy CS with round-robin item distribution. aka, one person getting all the drops in a game. I have CS'ed with other people who just vacumed all the items when it was not their game, ID'd them and if they didn't want them, they might drop them. Though more then often they just sold the items and kept the dough. You can play during the week now aswell, right, with your new PC ?
 
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