Best build using some MA?

[mephiztophelez]

Re: Best build using some MA?

To Meph, no thanks, don't need death sentry. Mass spamming of pheonix strike erratically wipes out mobs on a massive scale. Many end up freezing and shattering to pieces anyways. Only need it for my sins that can't 1 hit many tough monsters. I would have to get to level 93 just to get it anyways, and getting to 90 toke long enough.

each to their own. i rekon a sin without DS is a crippled 'sin.

Unless your a powerful trapper/kicker hybrid your gana need a flexible weapon.

gimmershred? Black, Stormlash, Crescent Moon? The Gnasher? Crushflange Mace?

hell hath been solo'd with all of the above on a kick'sin.

 

[stephan]

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I like my TS/DTail Lawbringer sin very much. No Death Sentry, but after playing a zillion sins with DS it's a change.

 

[Sass]

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It's not about cheap vs not, but I don't trade often anyway >>

I've been using a blood crescent I used in the trist runs. It's not that I can't deal with the ghosts, but DS clears an entire screen of them in the time it takes for me to kick two, maybe three times. Not even azure/law can do that for me.

 

[TheDarkSide1]

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If you have never tried the Rift a Sin build , Id highly recommend it. Very fun and very viable build thats not too expensive. Iv'e also had good success with a Blade Fury / kicker hybrid..

 

[Ghoulz]

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each to their own. i rekon a sin without DS is a crippled 'sin.

hell hath been solo'd with all of the above on a kick'sin.

I can slaughter anything without DS. Im not very crippled when I can kill typical mobs instantly. Only trouble I get is with minions of destruction, but DS is useless anyways since you need to kill em first and the best way is by freezing them so DS becomes useless anyways. If I want DS I'll just use a trapper or another sin, letting DS do the work would undermine the whole point of my build. There's no fun in that. Why make such a character if your only going to use those maxed out skills to kill only a couple monsters and let DS do the rest.


Those weapons are garbage when it comes to killing powerful things. You only got lucky when you solo'd hell. You won't be too lucky when you meet an extra fast mob of death lords that curse you.


I didn't know X chance on attack worked for kicks. Why not use Death or Voice of Reason instead of Rift?

 

[mephiztophelez]

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Those weapons are garbage when it comes to killing powerful things.

what, all of them? i'll grant you, gimmershred is a little slow on big bosses. except for crescent moon, which has that oh so juicy CtC Static, the rest are decently fast and have some CB. what more do you need on a kick weapon? i'll grant you, not much good for a PS'sin, but they're all pretty decent and certainly viable for a kicker or kick/trap hybrid.

anyway, stormlash is garbage and can't kill powerful things?

you did not just say that.

did you?

srs?

You only got lucky when you solo'd hell.

umm, no. i didn't. i solo'd some of the nastier parts of the game again and again, and, again. and again. so much so i wrote a guide about it.

You won't be too lucky when you meet an extra fast mob of death lords that curse you.

@.~

you're funny.

Why not use Death or Voice of Reason instead of Rift?

well, the only things a kicker will get from Death is 50%CB and the 20%AR bonus from the Gul rune. the rest is rather meh, especially the lack of IAS.

 

[Sass]

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I can slaughter anything without DS. Im not very crippled when I can kill typical mobs instantly. Only trouble I get is with minions of destruction, but DS is useless anyways since you need to kill em first and the best way is by freezing them so DS becomes useless anyways. If I want DS I'll just use a trapper or another sin, letting DS do the work would undermine the whole point of my build. There's no fun in that. Why make such a character if your only going to use those maxed out skills to kill only a couple monsters and let DS do the rest.


Those weapons are garbage when it comes to killing powerful things. You only got lucky when you solo'd hell. You won't be too lucky when you meet an extra fast mob of death lords that curse you.


I didn't know X chance on attack worked for kicks. Why not use Death or Voice of Reason instead of Rift?

You're also thinking in terms of a PSer vs a PI monster. I have a Monk vs a PI. AKA, DS drops the field.

PSer probably shouldn't be w/s, but that's me (I'd use nat's anyway for + skills). w/s isn't as skill heavy.


At anyrate, even a PSer has her immunities, and even the mana burns, which DS drops (often from out of screen, but you can't do that on a PSer). It doesn't undermine the build, it just clears you out of a tight spot. I don't go around CEing everything I see, just the stuff I can't kill (those xfast death lords). Regroup to a pack of w.e I just killed, DS pops them after a while.

With a monk, you can't handle them and you'll need that extra form of dmg. Comparing PS to Monk and only factoring a PI monster doesn't work.


@ stormlash it doesn't sound as juicy to PS, but it's easily best for a kicker.

EDIT: I JUST now killed a Phys immune /Poison Immune pindle on the way to nihlathak. Suffice it to say, that's my monk's only source of dmg.

Or is it?

It took dropping every minion around him (the Poison immunes froze and shattered from raven), but DEATH SENTRY just now killed him. It was the only possible way.

Bam.

 

[Thomh]

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I can slaughter anything without DS. Im not very crippled when I can kill typical mobs instantly. Only trouble I get is with minions of destruction, but DS is useless anyways since you need to kill em first and the best way is by freezing them so DS becomes useless anyways. If I want DS I'll just use a trapper or another sin, letting DS do the work would undermine the whole point of my build. There's no fun in that. Why make such a character if your only going to use those maxed out skills to kill only a couple monsters and let DS do the rest.


Those weapons are garbage when it comes to killing powerful things. You only got lucky when you solo'd hell. You won't be too lucky when you meet an extra fast mob of death lords that curse you.


I didn't know X chance on attack worked for kicks. Why not use Death or Voice of Reason instead of Rift?

I am actually pretty annoyed by that post. If you can`t solo the game with Stormlash and maxed Venom on a Monk, then wow. Frenzytaurs can be dealt with by using Stormshield and MB the lot out of them.

Put 1-20 in DS, just do it. You can be crazy, cool and whatever and not use DS, but I can assure you the build will be a lot more efficient with DS.