Batman - The Dark Knight Mafia Game

[thefranklin]

FoE: any thoughts on cdm?

You prefer a lynch on me although I didn't participate in your mislynch and i preferred a bpc lynch?

 

[FredOfErik]

FoE: any thoughts on cdm?

Honestly, I had expected some vig to come forward and claim they'd killed him. However, looking back at the different vig claims, I guess this is not so likely after all. My other guess would be that it was a result of a second poison-like ability.

You prefer a lynch on me although I didn't participate in your mislynch and i preferred a bpc lynch?

Yes. My lynch didn't take form before Gwaihir's pseudo double vote 50 mins before day-end and you didn't post at day end before I was locked. Further, no scum wants to be on the voting wagon of what they think is a pro-town player, so you're lack of voting me/wanting to lynch me doesn't change my suspicion on you at all. What maybe could help is you answering my questions.

 

[FredOfErik]

You prefer a lynch on me although I didn't participate in your mislynch and i preferred a bpc lynch?

And again, I must correct you - the lynch was successful.

 

[FredOfErik]

Players dead:

Drixx - Killed Night 1
Malevolent - Lynched Day 1, Mr. Freeze (Dr. Victor Fries) – Mafia – Freeze! (Roleblocker)
Pharphis - Died Day 1
Valhauros - Killed Night 2
flubbucket - Lynched Day 2, The Scarecrow (Professor Jonathan Crane) - Mafia - Fear Monger
Ankeli - Died Day 2
djmbbandie - Killed Night 3
Solar Ice - Killed Day 3, Two-Face (Harvey Dent) – Mafia - Inverter (X-shot)/Coin Flip (X-shot)
coju - Lynched Day 3, Bane – Mafia – Strongman (X-shot)/Hitman
Jason Maher - Died Day 3
FredOfErik - Lynched Day 4, Unknown
crawlingdeadman - Died Day 4
Noodle - Died Day 4
omgwtfbbqpwned - Mod killed Day 4, Red Hood (Jason Todd) – Town – Day Vigilante (X-shot)
FredOfErik - Alive Day 5

In case somebody doesn't believe my story about dieing.

 

[thefranklin]

And again, I must correct you - the lynch was successful.

So you are scum then.

 

[FredOfErik]

So you are scum then.

Please enlighten me as to how you came to that conclusion from that quote?

 

[Kestegs]

No. I assume Poisoner is a night action because Noodle died instead of Batstegs.

Yes, there is no evidence to suggest pushover is a day action. If it was then different people would be dying.

Okay! Sounds good. *waits*

Really? That's all you've got to say for yourself?

First off all, I find the 24 hours thing quite weird. And since you don't like taking the choice out of the town, why don't you ask them? I'm pretty sure nobody here would disagree with you duelling either me or BPC. As for now, nobody in town should have any reason to beieve you, and I am very confused as to why the pursuit on your lych isn't more concentrated. Vig claim in a game with plenty of vigs, refusal to use your role, and weird mechanic used as an excuse.

Vote: franklin



I was not lynch immune. Look at the end of day post - "FredOfErik was lynched". I was resurrected, more on this in a sec.



I did not steal the mask, I gave it to my self. And it was not a cat/eye mask, but a bat mask. And, as others have said, I'm pretty sure DJ was catwoman.



Is a double lynch possible? If so, have I missed something?



this.



Helpful as always.

@Laarz: Do I remember correctly that you still haven't told us who you saved N4? Since we had no kills N4, do you think your save was successful? Do you think information on who your target was could be helpful to town?

And now to my own situation:

First the reason for a lack of my lynch flip. I think this was probably the effect of the bat mask - that it granted some kind of incognito ability. That is the best explanation I can come up with.

And for my non-death. At the end of the day I received the expected "you have died PM". Later that night I talked to pyro (not via PM, but our hamachi chat) and he told me that I should check the forums at day start. And sure enough, as I checked this morning (just woke up) I had a PM saying that I was resurrected.

As for why I was resurrected? Your guess is as good as mine. I only see two possible explanations. Either the bat mask had something to do with it or somebody else have a resurrector ability. Both seems equally unlikely, as I expect the bat mask to have given me said incognito-ability and I would expect a resurrector to resurrect somebody else.

And, finally, I asked pyro (again) and the recipients of my items do get notified - however they are, just as I wasn't, not told about the ability of the item.

I have no possible way of proving myself, unless you let me live to the next night phase, where I get to hand out a new item. Even though y'all don't seem to be especially freddy-friendly, I think he have som pretty damn good lynch candidates in BPC and franklin.

All that being said, nice to be back!

Not sure where to start, that's such a ridiculous claim.

You claim that you received the typical you died pm. So since you got a link to the dead thread you should tell us who mafia is so we can lynch them! If pyro knew you were going to be resurrected he would have put it on your pm.

Sop you asked pyro to answer the same question you already asked? And he confirmed that targets receive a pm saying they got an item. And yet you didn't get that pm by your own admission. Wow, thanks for proving yourself a liar.

I could go on....but why?

Honestly, I had expected some vig to come forward and claim they'd killed him. However, looking back at the different vig claims, I guess this is not so likely after all. My other guess would be that it was a result of a second poison-like ability.



Yes. My lynch didn't take form before Gwaihir's pseudo double vote 50 mins before day-end and you didn't post at day end before I was locked. Further, no scum wants to be on the voting wagon of what they think is a pro-town player, so you're lack of voting me/wanting to lynch me doesn't change my suspicion on you at all. What maybe could help is you answering my questions.

Oh yea, must be a second poison ability! Can't believe I didn't think of that myself! /sarcasm

I think it was related to you, but that's just a guess. It was posted directly after your lynch with no separate story.

So who do scum want to lynch then, if they don't want to lynch the town?

In case somebody doesn't believe my story about dieing.

Anybody good on lore left that has an idea what role he could have?

 

[FredOfErik]

Not sure where to start, that's such a ridiculous claim.

You claim that you received the typical you died pm. So since you got a link to the dead thread you should tell us who mafia is so we can lynch them! If pyro knew you were going to be resurrected he would have put it on your pm.

Sop you asked pyro to answer the same question you already asked? And he confirmed that targets receive a pm saying they got an item. And yet you didn't get that pm by your own admission. Wow, thanks for proving yourself a liar.

I could go on....but why?

Since the possibility of a resurrection was present I obviously didn't receive a link to a dead QT - I though this would be obvious, and (unless the resurrection was only possible for me) that this has been the case for other dead players as well.

Yes, I asked pyro the same question as he didn't answer the first time. After I died it wasn't relevant anymore, but as I learned that I was coming back alive, I asked again and he answered promptly. His explanation as to why I didn't get one the first time was that he didn't consider sending it, as I already knew that I had received it (as mentioned earlier, I received a "your delivery was successful PM").

So who do scum want to lynch then, if they don't want to lynch the town?

scum obviously want to lynch town, but what is even better is to just have town lynch town.

 

[Kestegs]

Since the possibility of a resurrection was present I obviously didn't receive a link to a dead QT - I though this would be obvious, and (unless the resurrection was only possible for me) that this has been the case for other dead players as well.

Yes, I asked pyro the same question as he didn't answer the first time. After I died it wasn't relevant anymore, but as I learned that I was coming back alive, I asked again and he answered promptly. His explanation as to why I didn't get one the first time was that he didn't consider sending it, as I already knew that I had received it (as mentioned earlier, I received a "your delivery was successful PM").



scum obviously want to lynch town, but what is even better is to just have town lynch town.

No, that wasn't obvious, because you didn't say it. Because you forgot about that little detail. You said your received the "expected pm." I expect to receive a link to the dead thread on death.

"but as I learned I was coming back alive" - oh look, your story changed again! You said you found out when you woke up and received a pm in your first post.

 

[Gwaihir]

Okay! Sounds good. *waits*

Of all the discussion we have had so far today, why did you choose that post to respond to?

Vig claim in a game with plenty of vigs
Vote: franklin

@Laarz: Do I remember correctly that you still haven't told us who you saved N4? Since we had no kills N4, do you think your save was successful? Do you think information on who your target was could be helpful to town?

And now to my own situation:

First the reason for a lack of my lynch flip. I think this was probably the effect of the bat mask - that it granted some kind of incognito ability. That is the best explanation I can come up with.

And for my non-death. At the end of the day I received the expected "you have died PM". Later that night I talked to pyro (not via PM, but our hamachi chat) and he told me that I should check the forums at day start. And sure enough, as I checked this morning (just woke up) I had a PM saying that I was resurrected.

As for why I was resurrected? Your guess is as good as mine. I only see two possible explanations. Either the bat mask had something to do with it or somebody else have a resurrector ability. Both seems equally unlikely, as I expect the bat mask to have given me said incognito-ability and I would expect a resurrector to resurrect somebody else.

And, finally, I asked pyro (again) and the recipients of my items do get notified - however they are, just as I wasn't, not told about the ability of the item.

I have no possible way of proving myself, unless you let me live to the next night phase, where I get to hand out a new item. Even though y'all don't seem to be especially freddy-friendly, I think he have som pretty damn good lynch candidates in BPC and franklin.

All that being said, nice to be back!

Vig claim was from BPC, not franklin.

So the bat-mask brought you back? What exactly did you know about the mask when you made it?

Yes, there is no evidence to suggest pushover is a day action. If it was then different people would be dying.

I think it was related to you, but that's just a guess. It was posted directly after your lynch with no separate story.

Anybody good on lore left that has an idea what role he could have?

pushover. lol.

Agreed on related, why else would it show up now? BPC - did you have anything to do with it since your first kill did not work?

I have two nutty theories on what happened, but I would like to hear more from FOE and BPC first.

I think CG has a vote out. franklin and BPC, who are your top suspects for the day?

 

[thefranklin]

I still don't think bpc is town, but for sure FoE has to go.

 

[Kestegs]

Pushover = poisoner. Obviously

Got something to hide with your politicianing?

 

[Caluin Graye]

Is a double lynch possible? If so, have I missed something?

By lynching you again today, we'd be lynching you back-to-back, hence a 'double lynch'. Terminology was unclear, since we've used that term for two lynches in one day.

 

[Caluin Graye]

I think CG has a vote out. franklin and BPC, who are your top suspects for the day?

I have not yet voted today. It's about 90% probable that it'll land on FoE.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Count as of #1074:

5 to lynch, 6 to lock

Vote:
FredOfErik(1): Goryani
Thefranklin(1): FredOfErik

 

[thefranklin]

First off all, I find the 24 hours thing quite weird. And since you don't like taking the choice out of the town, why don't you ask them? I'm pretty sure nobody here would disagree with you duelling either me or BPC. As for now, nobody in town should have any reason to beieve you, and I am very confused as to why the pursuit on your lych isn't more concentrated. Vig claim in a game with plenty of vigs, refusal to use your role, and weird mechanic used as an excuse.

Vote: franklin

Hmm, 24 hours thing is an annoyance we have seen in the past, ask Moar with the politician role. Is that what you refer to by "weird" mechanic? How weird would it be if I could use it 2 hours before day end and only three people vote? And I have not refused to use it, it is a role that requires a damn good reason to use it when you have to. And I play conservatively, so that has been tough to find. I could have used it on Mal d1 after he was basically locked, but kind of a weak duel, wouldn't you say?

And again, I must correct you - the lynch was successful.

A mislynch is the lynch of a townie. A successful lynch has scum hanging on it.

Please enlighten me as to how you came to that conclusion from that quote?

For us to successful, you must be scum. Simple logic.

By lynching you again today, we'd be lynching you back-to-back, hence a 'double lynch'. Terminology was unclear, since we've used that term for two lynches in one day.

And this will be a possibility, I will be submitting my duel in less than an hour, so here is the chance to speak up before I duel kestegs.

 

[Gwaihir]

Pushover = poisoner. Obviously

Got something to hide with your politicianing?

I figured, just thought it was amusing.

I just want to get a response on suspects before I gave away who I chose, as after they know, they can say whatever they want.

I chose to get thefranklins vote.

too many holes in FOE's argument, I am for thefranklin challenging FOE to prove he can, and then lynching FOE.

 

[thefranklin]

PS: the kestegs thing was a joke. Did you know that Muhammad Ali fought Superman in boxing? And won? I wanted that experience.

 

[Kestegs]

Hmm, 24 hours thing is an annoyance we have seen in the past, ask Moar with the politician role. Is that what you refer to by "weird" mechanic? How weird would it be if I could use it 2 hours before day end and only three people vote? And I have not refused to use it, it is a role that requires a damn good reason to use it when you have to. And I play conservatively, so that has been tough to find. I could have used it on Mal d1 after he was basically locked, but kind of a weak duel, wouldn't you say?



A mislynch is the lynch of a townie. A successful lynch has scum hanging on it.



For us to successful, you must be scum. Simple logic.



And this will be a possibility, I will be submitting my duel in less than an hour, so here is the chance to speak up before I duel kestegs.

Um what? (I saw below though)

But I think I have a better duel target to prove yourself on...

I figured, just thought it was amusing.

I just want to get a response on suspects before I gave away who I chose, as after they know, they can say whatever they want.

I chose to get thefranklins vote.

too many holes in FOE's argument, I am for thefranklin challenging FOE to prove he can, and then lynching FOE.

Orly?

Well that would make you....wait for it....wait for it.....

The pushover!

Yup, I watched you visit gory last night. 10 bucks says he keels over at day end, but I'd rather not save you for tomorrow and let you kill again.

PS: the kestegs thing was a joke. Did you know that Muhammad Ali fought Superman in boxing? And won? I wanted that experience.

Duel gwaihir.

 

[Goryani]

First off all, I find the 24 hours thing quite weird. And since you don't like taking the choice out of the town, why don't you ask them? I'm pretty sure nobody here would disagree with you duelling either me or BPC. As for now, nobody in town should have any reason to beieve you, and I am very confused as to why the pursuit on your lych isn't more concentrated. Vig claim in a game with plenty of vigs, refusal to use your role, and weird mechanic used as an excuse.

Vote: franklin



I was not lynch immune. Look at the end of day post - "FredOfErik was lynched". I was resurrected, more on this in a sec.



I did not steal the mask, I gave it to my self. And it was not a cat/eye mask, but a bat mask. And, as others have said, I'm pretty sure DJ was catwoman.



Is a double lynch possible? If so, have I missed something?



this.



Helpful as always.

@Laarz: Do I remember correctly that you still haven't told us who you saved N4? Since we had no kills N4, do you think your save was successful? Do you think information on who your target was could be helpful to town?

And now to my own situation:

First the reason for a lack of my lynch flip. I think this was probably the effect of the bat mask - that it granted some kind of incognito ability. That is the best explanation I can come up with.

And for my non-death. At the end of the day I received the expected "you have died PM". Later that night I talked to pyro (not via PM, but our hamachi chat) and he told me that I should check the forums at day start. And sure enough, as I checked this morning (just woke up) I had a PM saying that I was resurrected.

As for why I was resurrected? Your guess is as good as mine. I only see two possible explanations. Either the bat mask had something to do with it or somebody else have a resurrector ability. Both seems equally unlikely, as I expect the bat mask to have given me said incognito-ability and I would expect a resurrector to resurrect somebody else.

And, finally, I asked pyro (again) and the recipients of my items do get notified - however they are, just as I wasn't, not told about the ability of the item.

I have no possible way of proving myself, unless you let me live to the next night phase, where I get to hand out a new item. Even though y'all don't seem to be especially freddy-friendly, I think he have som pretty damn good lynch candidates in BPC and franklin.

All that being said, nice to be back!

None of this explains why your lynch flip listed "unknown."
None of this explains why cdm also died.
Now you claim to be able to hand out items on even nights whereas earlier you said it was only odd nights.
A resurrector targeting you MUST know a lot about you before they target djm, Noodle, Drixx or Val. That leaves mafia resurrector or mason resurrector and since you didn't claim mason...

My vote stands.