Batman - The Dark Knight Mafia Game

And if yes (or even no) What do we do with Fred? We've lost games before by focusing on the unlynchable too much, but I would go for a double lynch today if I had a vote.

Also: Kegs, Did you withhold info yesterday? Care to share your's from today? Let's get some info and lynch some fools.
 
I wasn't asking for your claim, I was hoping you would tell me why you are useful.

I'm useful by being town and having the same win condition as you, assuming you're town too. Seriously? What kind of statement is this? Would you have said that if this were a different game and I had claimed Vanilla?

You were pretty vocal about my ability, and a useless cg was my top choice for a duel before weekend at Bernie's woke up.

That and by not giving any description of what she you have, you are free to spout any bs you want.

Agreed. Had FoE been lynched and had he not flipped poisoner, I would have recommended you duel me. It would prove that you have a day ability, and removes me from the equation, since I have one of the weakest alibis. That would have left the town to focus on the few remaining suspects, of which there are not that many.

As for the second statement regarding the BS: You either believe me, or you don't. You either think I'm town and doing what I think is best, or you believe I'm scum and hiding my intentions from you. No matter what information I give you, you'll always come down to the above equation, even had I done so from the very start. So I elect to do what is best for my win condition, and that means not divulging my role to the town (and by association, to the mafia).

And if yes (or even no) What do we do with Fred? We've lost games before by focusing on the unlynchable too much, but I would go for a double lynch today if I had a vote.

Once unlynchable is mean, but not outside the realm of possibility. If the 'poisoner' is a modified SK, then I could see a one-time lynch immunity working help him make his win condition more achievable.

I'd prefer the double lynch, but I'd also really like to hear what explanation FoE comes up with before we start the voting.
 
I feel lke people are waiting for something to happen in this game. Makes me think its another impossible win town scenario and it's which mafia decides to play better. I am not sure that's the case but it sure as hell feels like it might be.

Why is all of the information about last night not on the table right now? CG, if you are town, divulge your information. Seriously. You think you are such a huge target if you do? there's tons of targets and for all we know you will drop dead at the end of the day.

If you don't divulge you need to be lynched. Seriously. If you are town, give it up.
 
And don't give me a crappy smoke and mirrors answer CG. If you don't give it up, you should be NKed immediately, and you haven't been, and you probably won't. If you are town you seriously have more information than a Doc does? Or frieken BATMAN? PLease
 
Why is all of the information about last night not on the table right now? CG, if you are town, divulge your information.

My role is not an information role. I've stated this before.

And don't give me a crappy smoke and mirrors answer CG. If you don't give it up, you should be NKed immediately, and you haven't been, and you probably won't. If you are town you seriously have more information than a Doc does? Or frieken BATMAN? PLease

MY. ROLE. IS. NON. INFORMATIONAL.

At this moment, there is zero reason for the town to know my role. There is every reason for the mafia to know it.

Let it go.
 
I investigated thefranklin for activated ability. He didn't use one.

If I remember correctly, you would not know if he performed a kill, correct? Can you explain your reasoning for targeting him? Are you able to use a mimicked ability and your normal power in the same night?

So is FoE catwoman? The mask that was stolen would be an eye mask? Lots of lives...?

I really had djb pegged as Catwoman - stole items, and mentioned a meow as well.
 
Yup. As I stated; my ability garners the town zero benefit from knowing what it is. Therefore, it's in mine, and the town's, best interest if I don't reveal it. I have currently have no information to share.

FoE on the other hand stated one ability, then dodged a lynch somehow. That deserves some kind of explanation, considering he never mentioned any ability to avoid a lynch, let alone what appears to have redirected it to someone else.

In know, but it's still very ironic. I'm not going to push you to reveal your role as I know you won't do it anyways. For now I don't have a big reason to not trust you. You're still on my list, but there are 3 much higher priority targets right now.

And if yes (or even no) What do we do with Fred? We've lost games before by focusing on the unlynchable too much, but I would go for a double lynch today if I had a vote.

Also: Kegs, Did you withhold info yesterday? Care to share your's from today? Let's get some info and lynch some fools.

In also think he needs another lynch, but we need to gear what he has to say first. I was thinking maybe Franklin should duel him.

I gave all my info yesterday I think, but it was at the end of the day.
 
If I remember correctly, you would not know if he performed a kill, correct? Can you explain your reasoning for targeting him? Are you able to use a mimicked ability and your normal power in the same night?



I really had djb pegged as Catwoman - stole items, and mentioned a meow as well.

I also expect DJ was Catwoman.
 
People need to put their previous night's actions on the table.

And don't call me a hypocrite, I'll get to it when I'm ready.
 
Poisoning Noodle before kestegs makes perfect sense, actually. If poison is a night action, and the kill doesn't take place until the end of the following day, then which of the two 'confirmed' townies would you go for? Probably not the one most likely to be watching himself and thus capable of revealing your identity.

Of course, that doesn't explain the lack of a night kill.

Does this post make sense without assuming there are no more day kills?
 
And if yes (or even no) What do we do with Fred? We've lost games before by focusing on the unlynchable too much, but I would go for a double lynch today if I had a vote.

Also: Kegs, Did you withhold info yesterday? Care to share your's from today? Let's get some info and lynch some fools.

There is nothing town can do to combat a nine lives type unlynchable scum without being given hints (not unlike a mafia treestump) and I don't see any hints (plus Pyro said there would be none in the stories). I have to assume it's possible for town to win. Therefore, I assume FoE can be lynched if we try again.

Vote: FredOfErik

He won't feel a need to talk unless he has votes.
 
And now it's my turn for some irony.

Does this post make sense without assuming there are no more day kills?

Should be:

Does this post make sense without assuming there are no more normal mafia kills (the ones that appear at the start of day)?
 
CG: I have to use my power the first 24 hours of the day. I have not done it yet due to my conservatism in not wanting to take the choice out of the town. And then if I lose the town really learns nothing.

First off all, I find the 24 hours thing quite weird. And since you don't like taking the choice out of the town, why don't you ask them? I'm pretty sure nobody here would disagree with you duelling either me or BPC. As for now, nobody in town should have any reason to beieve you, and I am very confused as to why the pursuit on your lych isn't more concentrated. Vig claim in a game with plenty of vigs, refusal to use your role, and weird mechanic used as an excuse.

Vote: franklin

More importantly; why wasn't a lynch immunity ability divulged?

I was not lynch immune. Look at the end of day post - "FredOfErik was lynched". I was resurrected, more on this in a sec.

So is FoE catwoman? The mask that was stolen would be an eye mask? Lots of lives...?

I did not steal the mask, I gave it to my self. And it was not a cat/eye mask, but a bat mask. And, as others have said, I'm pretty sure DJ was catwoman.

I'd prefer the double lynch, but I'd also really like to hear what explanation FoE comes up with before we start the voting.

Is a double lynch possible? If so, have I missed something?

djm may have breadcrumbed being catwoman. FoE claimed he didn't steal a mask but instead gave it to himself.

this.

Okay! Sounds good. *waits*

Helpful as always.

@Laarz: Do I remember correctly that you still haven't told us who you saved N4? Since we had no kills N4, do you think your save was successful? Do you think information on who your target was could be helpful to town?

And now to my own situation:

First the reason for a lack of my lynch flip. I think this was probably the effect of the bat mask - that it granted some kind of incognito ability. That is the best explanation I can come up with.

And for my non-death. At the end of the day I received the expected "you have died PM". Later that night I talked to pyro (not via PM, but our hamachi chat) and he told me that I should check the forums at day start. And sure enough, as I checked this morning (just woke up) I had a PM saying that I was resurrected.

As for why I was resurrected? Your guess is as good as mine. I only see two possible explanations. Either the bat mask had something to do with it or somebody else have a resurrector ability. Both seems equally unlikely, as I expect the bat mask to have given me said incognito-ability and I would expect a resurrector to resurrect somebody else.

And, finally, I asked pyro (again) and the recipients of my items do get notified - however they are, just as I wasn't, not told about the ability of the item.

I have no possible way of proving myself, unless you let me live to the next night phase, where I get to hand out a new item. Even though y'all don't seem to be especially freddy-friendly, I think he have som pretty damn good lynch candidates in BPC and franklin.

All that being said, nice to be back!
 
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