Barbs for cs in 1.13

[Lorg1]

Barbs for cs in 1.13

Yep yep. No im in Cs anymore. Barbs can now efficiently Mf in cs even in hardcore.
Still some more dmg on weapons would have been nice but 35 % chance for double dmg will help kinda. Killing and Horking in cs :jig:

 

[CBK]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

What about Firewall Sorceress?

Just made one.... with maxed skills/mastery, 6k-7k dmg... that's INSANE.

Ama try making a poison nova nec and an immolation arrow zon to tell ya how buffed they were. Give me a few.

 

[CBK]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Well poison necro maxed without extra skills 2k dmg... thats 50 damage per second if you got 95 pr... With LR probably could be a nice threat/viable PVP char. Immolation zon at 1.2k dmg (that being 60 damage with 95 FR) still seems a bit short to cut it as a PVP char... since you can dodge easier than nova... Finally, seeing as a hydra does 1k damage on a lower cooldown... it could be a nice addition to fireball sorces... though to finish completely you'd need level 96 which kinda sucks.

We can conclude Poison Necros and Firewall sorces are two new types of duelist. I wouldn't be surprise to see not only using firewall but it's synergy Blaze to duel. Seeems like a fun way to duel (especially gaisnt a melee/foh following you) and does some nice damage. (blaze doing 1.5k dps at level 20) You only need level 91 for having maxed blaze, firewall, fire mastery, inferno and warmth, so it should be fun.

Edit: sorry for double post =D

 

[Anri]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Yuck, I have terrible a 1.0 dejavu. Barbs running the game in Classic again with WW. Still not as bad as Hammerdins, though. Sorcs are the same, will still use Blizz.

Immolation zon = still bad. Timered skill and abundand fire immunities in CS kill it. Bowazons unfortunately had no boost, Fend spearazon would ironically seem like the strongest/most damaging build available to classic zons to solo CS in 1.13 with IM out of the way.

 

[Lorg1]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Yuck, I have terrible a 1.0 dejavu. Barbs running the game in Classic again with WW. Still not as bad as Hammerdins, though. Sorcs are the same, will still use Blizz.

It's not as bad as u make it sound. Classic barbs just don't have huge dmg weapons = not enough dmg in full cs games. Still one atleast contribute something in cs and not just bo + maybe do priv cs runs in 1-3 ppl games.

Maybe high leech high str build would work ^^

The amount of fire immune monsters in cs kinda makes hydra/wall/orb hybrids pretty useless so blizz is still the way to go.

 

[fledgeling]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

My poison nec level 90 does 2200 damage now (no sojs/+2 amu); dont think a 15% damage increase would help in any way either in duels nor CS.
If it was 5000 damage, it could help in duels, still monsters have like 15000 life I think..

 

[Lorg1]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

My poison nec level 90 does 2200 damage now (no sojs/+2 amu); dont think a 15% damage increase would help in any way either in duels nor CS.
If it was 5000 damage, it could help in duels, still monsters have like 15000 life I think..

Meh man use the gold x and gamble sojs and nice +2 amu for your test nec !

 

[fledgeling]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

I have a legit 90 poison necro at Europe server (for quite a long time he was on the first page, now it's like number 18-19 on the realm; name is zom) so I cant really gamble anything for him

I think I probably need another form of gold to get such an amu, but tbh I dont play classic that much nowadays; been playing druids and amazons in LOD. I had a fantastic necro amu from monzee, but my nld necro got banned for using loader a year ago.


Anyway back from offtopic - even with an amulet/2sojs/wormskull and a 15% damage boost... I dont think the necro would be any good in classic. (and his resistances would be really bad)

Maybe in LOD, with all the overpowered items, those necros would be better. In fact maybe Ill make one in LOD, just to have a comparison.

 

[Andyhasit]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

How come blizz gave no warning on when the ptr would come, i think i read before that they said they would give a couple of days warning, now its live already?

oh nevermind, looks like it doesnt even work and the ladder hasnt been reset

 

[jamesL]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

http://www.purediablo.com/blog/comments/diablo-ii-patch-1.13-news/

 

[Ariaki]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Yuck, I have terrible a 1.0 dejavu. Barbs running the game in Classic again with WW. Still not as bad as Hammerdins, though. Sorcs are the same, will still use Blizz.

Immolation zon = still bad. Timered skill and abundand fire immunities in CS kill it. Bowazons unfortunately had no boost, Fend spearazon would ironically seem like the strongest/most damaging build available to classic zons to solo CS in 1.13 with IM out of the way.

The best (arguably against bowazons) amazon build for CS was Light Javalin and that hasn't changed. Fend still has the D/A/E bug which kills it. Even if it didn't LF and Charged Strike are superior skills anyway.

 

[Andyhasit]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

I think its right to remove iron maiden IF hammerdins dmg isnt changed, why should the barb have to struggle while the pala can kill everything in seconds. It would be a totally different thing if they would decide to nerf the hammerdin.
I think they should make the game harder, endless cs speed runs are no fun and doing something only for a high place in ladder is pointless when you think of it, its just a competition of who has the most time. Its not like you benefit anything of having your character on the first page of the ladder.

 

[fledgeling]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Has anyone did any runs in classic PTR to see if the parts of the respec quest dont drop in classic? I tried few runs, but didnt get anything. I hope they thought about it.

I also wonder if the restat thing doesnt mess up the +skills/stats from quest (and the +life from the bird)

 

[Lorg1]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

Some runs done. Has not dropped for me either.

Btw did some runs in hell cs with barb in crap gear... angelic armor amu 1 ring tarn with a 220 str and have to say that cs is now easier than travi. I had only 3 mana leecha and 6 lifeleech + almost perf snap and there is nothing that is dangerous to a 90 lv ww popper barb. Imo IM should be back but leech also working like it used to do in earlier patches. Then you could ww in cs if u had 20+ ll. Now its just constant ww...

Anyway, barbs do cs with ez now. Atleast in 1-3 ppl games. Maybe with 290+ mart and 250 str they would make cs just as fast as palas (in those 1.3 ppl games) And due to respecking (which i personally hate and would want to be one respec/char and only in normal or when char hits lv 30 -> could level up with funny builds then settle for the end game build) Barbs can start as double hit + thrower, switch to ww @ 30 using mf build. level up to 92 in cs while popping and retire as pvp...

 

[CBK]

Re: Barbs for cs in 1.13

They don't drop in classic fledge... I even made a post in the "official" forums (which of course never helps....). When you respec you get all the 110 points back (if you done all the skill quests) and get 505 stat points back (if you done the stats quest). You keep the +life from the bird as I've seen (I respec'ed once in hell and in both, pre questing alll the difficulties and post questing I went pure vit and had the same amount of life)

EDIT: Of course, that is if you are level 99 =D