Baldur's Gate Mafia Game

[Goryani]

I think it's more likely that coju is trying to get himself lynched. He may be the village idiot. It depends on the game. Some mods let us know identities of those dead and some don't.

What should be done about this if coju is a VI? If he's not VI but just trying to act like it?

I'm not sure who to lynch today, frankly. BPC is now safe in my eyes because pharphis kept suggesting to lynch him and he was mafia.

kestegs called pharphis his top scum suspect... both flipped mafia.

 

[Goryani]

Just wondering, who told you to track me?

I told myself (and SI) to track you.

Due to the end of the day, I was rushed so I didn't get a chance to say why I tracked you. Upon seeing my role I decided I would track someone I hadn't yet played a mafia game with. Out of that list I picked you because you drew the short straw.

Who'd you track last night and what happened (since you're outed, wouldn't it be okay to tell everyone)?

Not just yet. Rest assured I'll give my results before the end of the day. Earlier if it affects today's lynch.

Why aren't you dead from last night, wouldn't a tracker be a good target for the mafia?

Those questions are for the killers.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Quick question, is there a way to know if both were town? Or do we assume they were? One has to be town, correct?

If we were to assume one was town and one was not, which one would you associate with being town and which one not town?

BPC is now safe in my eyes because pharphis kept suggesting to lynch him and he was mafia.

But then again, I've never played this game. He could also potentially be scum, but I have no idea at this point.

This concerns me.

Another acronym: Look At Me I'm So Townie

You know, we should add a section to the 'Awards and General Information' post that details what the most commonly used acronyms are. No sarcasm here - I think that'd be a good place to have for a reference.

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I think Bipolar is most likely to be town. I thought about it a bit during the night phase, and came to the conclusion that if I were pharphis, I'd try to capitalize upon my 'Jerome the Busser' identity and get the town to think I'm bussing one of my own, thereby getting a townie lynched in the process. Unless there is some very compelling arguments made for him, I'll not be voting for BPC.

 

[Goryani]

I don't think he's dead because Pyro outed phar pretty quick. Maybe mafia thought he had some inside knowledge, but who knows. Pyro had a bit of a target on his back after yesterday and it seems like that could have done him in, in the end.

Gory not being killed though surprises me a little bit. If the mafia is going after a large target, why not after Gory? So far, the game seems very power role heavy and it is quite possible they knew something more about pyro.

These appear in the same post though I've quoted them separately to make it easier to compare them.

On the one hand you give an explanation why mafia would target Pyro ("I think he's dead because...") then on the other hand you are surprised mafia didn't target me. Those two ideas seem contradictory. Care to elaborate further?

Did you think Pyro had inside knowledge about pharphis? Is that why you think mafia might think Pyro had inside knowledge?

 

[Goryani]

I think Bipolar is most likely to be town. I thought about it a bit during the night phase, and came to the conclusion that if I were pharphis, I'd try to capitalize upon my 'Jerome the Busser' identity and get the town to think I'm bussing one of my own, thereby getting a townie lynched in the process. Unless there is some very compelling arguments made for him, I'll not be voting for BPC.

How much of your opinion of BPC is based from BPC and how much is based from pharphis?

 

[Bad Ash]

I got a bad feeling about you goryani. like super bad.

I also think looking at the votes would be extremely successful. If the mafia team knew two of their own were going down wouldnt they try to at least prevent one of them?

Possible pitfalls: Two mafia teams.

I have a feeling there's a lot of roles in this game with abilities. Cause mafia having power roles? Thats uber imbalance otherwise.

 

[Caluin Graye]

How much of your opinion of BPC is based from BPC and how much is based from pharphis?

I had a null read on BPC before yesterday's lynches. So you could say most of my current opinion on him is based on pharphis' actions.

 

[flubbucket1]

But then again, I've never played this game. He could also potentially be scum, but I have no idea at this point.

ORLY??

I don't want to just jump in and say anyone is obviously this or that. I agree with FoE, distancing from teammates is a good plan but specifically calling out someone is weird. I wouldn't put it past someone to do this to either target a player or just attempt to stir up s*** the next day.

I agree this game seems loaded with power roles.

I am currently feeling backed into a corner by two foxes trying to get Pinocchio to get on the boat to Pleasure Island with these sort of posts.

I have a long night at work ahead of me so I'm getting this in now. I will be available much later so no worries. However I had to get my thoughts down before splitting out the door.



Vote: djmbbandie



Wish I had a second vote for the Bipolar fellah....

 

[djmbbandie]

I'm interested in Bad Ash's posts at the end of the day. What is not right?

Vote: Bad Ash


?For now.

 

[Bad Ash]

I'm interested in Bad Ash's posts at the end of the day. What is not right?

Vote: Bad Ash


?For now.

Pharphis was not right. He tried to "save himself" by saying that gory visited me the first night.

If he was town, it would have been extremely selfish to save himself by outing a power role (which made gory claim tracker).

Clearly he was trying to give his mafia a message which they didnt take as gory is still alive which has me suspicious

 

[Jason Maher]

So coju's a Village Idiot, or trying awfully hard to act like one (would a real VI be that obvious?), Gory's outed a tracker by pharphis' goading, and BPC was named by a dying scum as someone who needed to die. Not a lot to go on, is there?

Personally, I think coju is being just a wee bit too obvious. Any VI who wanted to get lynched would not play in such a manner. I'm somewhat in favour of calling his bluff.

 

[Jason Maher]

Bah - should say Gory was outed as a tracker by phar's goading.

 

[Jason Maher]

Just a heads up - I am having PC issues at the moment (what looks to be a faulty/failing SSD), so I may disappear for a day or two without warning. I spent something like 12 hours fighting with my computer yesterday (and into the wee hours this morning) trying to gte it running again.

 

[Goryani]

Clearly he was trying to give his mafia a message which they didnt take as gory is still alive which has me suspicious

That's not the only explanation and that might not even be the most likely explanation. Most of the time, info given to mafia is given in the mafia QT so pharphis wouldn't need to send it to his teammates in this thread. The other explanation may be that pharphis was fishing. A watcher will know someone has a role but won't know which role nor which result, if any.

But pharphis also did some fishing with regard to kestegs' situation. That also is unusual if they are on the same team for the same reason as above. That leaves me wondering if was pharphis fishing kestegs to learn of ketsegs' targets' ID or fishing for power role involvement (there was a bus driver) or was he trying to be the opposite of Jerome.

 

[djmbbandie]

Good enough for me.

Unvote: Bad Ash

 

[Jcakes1]

That's not the only explanation and that might not even be the most likely explanation. Most of the time, info given to mafia is given in the mafia QT so pharphis wouldn't need to send it to his teammates in this thread. The other explanation may be that pharphis was fishing. A watcher will know someone has a role but won't know which role nor which result, if any.

Are you saying that mafia have day talk?

 

[Jcakes1]

Ah never mind I think I know what you mean. Reading / posting from phone ids difficult. Will post more when at home

 

[Jcakes1]

I have a fair bit of catching up to do, I didn't quote anything from twilight phase as I didn't find it that relevant compared to yesterdays and todays stuff and didn't want to make a massive WoT.

Preview Edit: turns out that it is a little bit WoT anyway.

Aw shoot, I remembered wrong. It was thefrankiln who I thought was scummy yesterday, not ph. Vote still feels right about Ph either way though.


vote: thefranklin


I'm also not real keen on Jason Maher. Not sure exactly why, but I've got a feeling.

I quoted this post, but there were a couple of posts that I found interesting. Firstly kestegs (while on death row) claims to have used his ability on CG because he felt like CG didn't trust him. Later on in the day kestegs votes for thedeadfranklin, a few posts later so does CG. It feels to me that there might be a connection here.

@Cg: Any comments, why did you vote for thefranklin straight after kestegs?

Better to remain silent and have people think I'm an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt.

I think it's just me not wanting to make an *** out of myself and do something that loses the game for my team. I still don't like how Jason was posting during twilight, but according to the "old hands" at this game it's just banter if it takes place early in the game.

Like others, I want to know about this:

Just random finger pointing or solid info, what's the source?


Vote 2: pharphis

He was on my list from twilight (again for some 'banter' so take that as you will). I'm still not sure if lynching just for the sake of lynching is what should be done, but it's what I feel is correct in this case.

I find this post a little interesting, CDM gets called out for lurking and responds by saying he didn't want to do something that makes his team lose. I am not sure if it is bad wording on his part or there is something more. I can't help but be reminded of Korial in one of my early games were he made a similar comment and ended up being scum.

I targeted BA last night using my watcher ability and got the result Gory visited him.

Eat it.

Also, lynch BCP tomorrow.

I may or may not have an ability that targets anyone, but if I did, I did not target BA last night.

Gah. Guess it's claim time since I was outed good.

I'm a tracker. Kivan I think is the name.

N1 I tracked crawlingdeadman. CDM did not target anyone last night. CDM was mentioned by name as my tracking target.

Interesting that pharph claims to have watched BA and seen Goryani yet Goryani claims not to have gone to CDM. I am not sure how much stock I should put in what pharph claims, but I don't really see any reason for him to lie about who he watched.

@gory: What are your thoughts on CDM?

The mod kills of two characters with abilities is a real blow (although I'm not clear on what "Name Cop" means exactly). Losing two more last night also stinks. Quick question, is there a way to know if both were town? Or do we assume they were? One has to be town, correct?

I don't like this post from CDM it just feels off.

I think it's more likely that coju is trying to get himself lynched. He may be the village idiot. It depends on the game. Some mods let us know identities of those dead and some don't.

I'm not sure who to lynch today, frankly. BPC is now safe in my eyes because pharphis kept suggesting to lynch him and he was mafia.

I'll check back in later tonight. I have classes from 5:30 to 9:30.

But then again, I've never played this game. He could also potentially be scum, but I have no idea at this point.

DJ being very vague on non-commital, feels like he is setting himself up to be able to vote for BPC, but doesn't want to lay a vote.

Pharphis was not right. He tried to "save himself" by saying that gory visited me the first night.

If he was town, it would have been extremely selfish to save himself by outing a power role (which made gory claim tracker).

Clearly he was trying to give his mafia a message which they didnt take as gory is still alive which has me suspicious

So correct me if I am wrong, but all you meant by "something is not right" is that pharphis is likely scum.

That's not the only explanation and that might not even be the most likely explanation. Most of the time, info given to mafia is given in the mafia QT so pharphis wouldn't need to send it to his teammates in this thread. The other explanation may be that pharphis was fishing. A watcher will know someone has a role but won't know which role nor which result, if any.

But pharphis also did some fishing with regard to kestegs' situation. That also is unusual if they are on the same team for the same reason as above. That leaves me wondering if was pharphis fishing kestegs to learn of ketsegs' targets' ID or fishing for power role involvement (there was a bus driver) or was he trying to be the opposite of Jerome.

Ah never mind I think I know what you mean. Reading / posting from phone ids difficult. Will post more when at home

My misreading was that I thought you said was that pharphis could talk with his friends in the QT, but what you meant is that the results are "likely" in the QT. I still feel a little uneasy.

As a quick aside, people I think might be scum: CG, Goryani, dj, CDM. CG because of the kestegs connection, Gory is just making me feel a little uneasy, dj feels very non-commital and CDM feels a little off placing random early votes (Jason Maher D1, coju D2) and the whole team thing.

 

[Caluin Graye]

@Cg: Any comments, why did you vote for thefranklin straight after kestegs?

You mean new comments than the ones I've already made about this subject? No. But, just for you, I'll repeat myself.

I was concentrating on verifying that I could still place votes, and had forgotten that franklin was the deads. Nothing more sinister than a simple memory lapse.

 

[FredOfErik]

You know, we should add a section to the 'Awards and General Information' post that details what the most commonly used acronyms are. No sarcasm here - I think that'd be a good place to have for a reference.

Agreed. I'd voluntere, but am pretty sure I don't know them all.

I have a fair bit of catching up to do, I didn't quote anything from twilight phase as I didn't find it that relevant compared to yesterdays and todays stuff and didn't want to make a massive WoT.

Preview Edit: turns out that it is a little bit WoT anyway.




I quoted this post, but there were a couple of posts that I found interesting. Firstly kestegs (while on death row) claims to have used his ability on CG because he felt like CG didn't trust him. Later on in the day kestegs votes for thedeadfranklin, a few posts later so does CG. It feels to me that there might be a connection here.

@Cg: Any comments, why did you vote for thefranklin straight after kestegs?



I find this post a little interesting, CDM gets called out for lurking and responds by saying he didn't want to do something that makes his team lose. I am not sure if it is bad wording on his part or there is something more. I can't help but be reminded of Korial in one of my early games were he made a similar comment and ended up being scum.







Interesting that pharph claims to have watched BA and seen Goryani yet Goryani claims not to have gone to CDM. I am not sure how much stock I should put in what pharph claims, but I don't really see any reason for him to lie about who he watched.

@gory: What are your thoughts on CDM?



I don't like this post from CDM it just feels off.





DJ being very vague on non-commital, feels like he is setting himself up to be able to vote for BPC, but doesn't want to lay a vote.



So correct me if I am wrong, but all you meant by "something is not right" is that pharphis is likely scum.





My misreading was that I thought you said was that pharphis could talk with his friends in the QT, but what you meant is that the results are "likely" in the QT. I still feel a little uneasy.

As a quick aside, people I think might be scum: CG, Goryani, dj, CDM. CG because of the kestegs connection, Gory is just making me feel a little uneasy, dj feels very non-commital and CDM feels a little off placing random early votes (Jason Maher D1, coju D2) and the whole team thing.

I had completetly forgotten about the "team"-post. It's never easy to know newbie-ness from newbie slips, but this post pretty much sums up my feelings about cdm at the moment.