Baldur's Gate Mafia Game

[pharphis]

Aw shoot, I remembered wrong. It was thefrankiln who I thought was scummy yesterday, not ph. Vote still feels right about Ph either way though.


vote: thefranklin


I'm also not real keen on Jason Maher. Not sure exactly why, but I've got a feeling.

It's because we tf are my initials IRL

Will that arisen time be this game? This last sentence sounds like it'll be this game. What use of bussing does a townie have?

As for my second vote, I'm bouncing between pharphis and thefranklin. There was some interesting banter between both of them and kestegs in Twilight. I haven't yet caught up totally with today so I'll come back to this. For now, just to prove that I can vote or not...

Vote2: thefranklin

No, not this game. I wasn't implying that.
I don't think townies can bus in any way that can possibly benefit the town, so I guess the answer to that is also no.

Probably town or mafia. Maybe neutral.



Oh. My. God. I just almost wet myself. I really hope I read this the way you intended. Frieken hilarious.

Since I messed up my vote oh PH I'm going to give it some time. Still thinks he's scum. There's a difference vetween mafia scrambling and townie power role scrambling Imo. You basically admitted to scrambling and said with good reason.

Vote 2: Pharphis

Just changed my mind. Hopefully that is legit. Phone posting blows

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I thought answering that question would have been enough for you to change your mind.

 

[pharphis]

lol..... I fail at paying attention. Then again everybody has been ignoring the fact that 2 people died.

omg someone mentioned 2 deaths, must be scum lololololol

 

[coju]

urhm....
vote 2's must have a space.


ex: [highlight]Vote 2: thedeadfranklin[/highlight]

You said that about me, CG? Reckon I'll have to step it up, then. I won't let you down. You did notice I included my name in that list.

 

[Caluin Graye]

urhm....
vote 2's must have a space.


ex: [highlight]Vote 2: thedeadfranklin[/highlight]

You said that about me, CG? Reckon I'll have to step it up, then. I won't let you down. You did notice I included my name in that list.

SON OF A B... Fine. Two points to coju. I blame it on things a gentleman should never discuss.

THIRD TIME THE CHARM.

Vote 2: FredofErik

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Nice try, any busdrive would then also show the killer..
Simply put, you can't be the only person visiting a dead man and expect to get away with it. The semi anti-town ability is a nice touch. One mafia down.

< 3 Pyro

Wow, love from Sath, thats something new, are we buddies now since we were mason partners?

Where in that post am I attempting to save him? I'm saying he needs to tell us his info or be lynched. I'm not saying we should believe his claim, either.

Are YOU busing him? don't worry, I'll still pull a Jerome when the time arises.

I didn't say you were trying to save him, however, you did try to step in with a "well, lets wait to see what he says" post that wasn't even directed toward you, knowing full well, that if kegs had anything to say his spammer self would come forward with it. It looked like a sad attempt to slow the train progress, maybe in hopes enough for kegs to pull together a miracle story similar to fred's last game, and guess what, I'm still not impressed with your post or his story.

So you are admitting that you will bus someone on your team later in the game? Hm, interesting.

Oh, looks like he posted.
I'm not really buying it, but I don't feel the need to lock yet. Still under 5 hours.

Nothing else interesting to say, oh, looks like he posted, yep, ok. *nods head*

It does seem like bit of a save. The thing that jumps out at me is that it seems like a very low-key save attempt, which jumps out as exactly what I would expect on day 1 and we were lynching scum already. So...

Vote 2: pharphis

It also seems way too obvious that Kestegs would be scum, with this whole targeting thing. I can't not vote for this, and I'm fine with an early lock on this lynch just to get it out of the way, so we can focus on the second vote.

Vote: kestegs



Looking into the characters chosen, this is a very random small character. Minor backstory: He is a friendly, tubby gentleman and very neutral.
This seems a bit too random of a character to choose, but who knows.

Quick to jump aren't we bipolar? Hm...noted. Didn't have any fun questions to ask of pharphis, like maybe why he felt like he needed to make that post? (You can feel free to answer that too phar)

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

I don't think he's close to lock, but I haven't checked the number of votes it takes for one, yet, either.
I will likely vote for kegs (as I said and was totally misinterpreted or deliberately twisted by Pyro) but I wanted to see others post their own opinions. Too often scum slip through by saying "oh obvi scum for the reasons other people gave Vote: Person" and leave it at that.

When did I say I wasn't going to contribute further, or how did you come to that conclusion?

Misinterpreted or deliberately twisted? Lets review them again:

Not directed at me but I want to add to this. Kegs is in the unfortunate seat of having to explain what his role is, otherwise the town misses out on information. If kegs is mafia then he likely gets lynched, but if he's town then he certainly needs to give up at least some indication of his role, because the mafia know he has a role, and if he's reluctant to tell us then that just makes it likely they will target him.

Wow. This has to be the worst attempt at a save ever. What happened to Jerome "the bus" Pharphis?

Vote 2: Pharphis

Doesn't look like I twisted anything to me, looks like I'm just pointing out what I see in front of me.

Why three?

Because we already have two?

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

This reminds me
Vote 2: Caluin Graye



I wouldn't see CG doing it.
And, kestegs' took the words straight from my mouth:


I will say this though: drixx/kestegs got bussed and is town. CG is scum. (Jason brought up points in is wall of quotes. Mainly for trying to discredit a lynch 2 thing)
As Fluboodle said "You heard it here first."
Since vote 1 and 2 both have the same voting rules... Honestly, I'd like to see these 'potions' played out. As for the name, Winston Morgan, or w/e, from what BiPolAR said and found, it's a low-key player and someone very likely not to be picked. Smart-ish for scum, but so obvious to everyone else it hurts. But, since information is key:
Vote: kestegs

Btw, Pharphis, cG, coju, ghwaihir, and bipolar are all scum. You should lynch them all.

Why is it that I never understand anything you say? Although, I think your right, coju is probably scum. Why do you want to see the "potions" played out? What is your reasoning for believing kegs?

Nice.

Vote: kestegs

Not much to say on kegs -> he had a lot of explaining to do, he didn't do it. the potion inn thing is ridiculous BS, and I'm willing to bet a lot that he's scum.

However, i'm not convinced of pharph being scum. I think his line of thought was reasonable.

I will sleep some more and hopefully stop being hungover - and then probably read the thread properly.

How was phars thought reasonable? Please tell me. I am anxious to hear this.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

I did use it as a help town action, not real sure how you didn't pick that up from what I said. I didn't have any good reads on mafia since there wasn't much to go on. Losing 1 vote on D1 is really unlikely to actually influence the outcome of the day.

The ninja is just the only possible explanation I have, I didn't say it was a good one, but the role mechaincs on a PH are a not well known, and obviously Solar could have made up whatever he wants since my role isn't a standard role.

vote2 harphis I thought he was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed.

If the town wants to lynch me that's fine, my role isn't going to be very useful now that it's out in the air, and I will likely get killed before the game gets to a point where it could actually become useful anyways. Sadly it won't really give the town much info. I guess it will show you that there is a busdriver and something going on that isn't explained. I could prove my role tonight/tomorrow if you leave me alive, but that's probably not really worth the risk to the town, especially since we have 2 votes today.

Hm, and you "vote" for pharphis too, what a strange turn of events. WIFOM to stop us from voting him? Or is he town? Or something else, hmmmm...

Obscure role, with an obscure name, with an ability that doesn't really sound like it helps the town. Sorry not working for me.

Lol..... I fail at paying attention. Then again everybody has been ignoring the fact that 2 people died.

I acknowledge it, but theres not much to say about it at this time. There are either two groups with a killing power (sk/mafia/whatever), someone used a one shot, or something else. Strange though that when your under such heat you try and resort to the "Oh! Look 2 kills everyone! Let us look at that instead of me for the next 12 hours!"

Also, whats with all these people voting for a dead person? Maybe it is nothing, but usually I pay attention to who died at night. Unless I already knew who was going to die or should have died that night...

Alright, I'm done, have a party to go to, so I'll be out for the rest of the night.

 

[coju]

Why is it that I never understand anything you say? Although, I think your right, coju is probably scum. Why do you want to see the "potions" played out? What is your reasoning for believing kegs?



How was phars thought reasonable? Please tell me. I am anxious to hear this.

Because as a host i would hate for a role i put in for fun to die so quickly.
Not sure why you don't understand my posts; maybe we're not on the same level, maybe its that i don't put all that I'm thinking about the subjects i write about.

 

[Goryani]

I did use it as a help town action, not real sure how you didn't pick that up from what I said. I didn't have any good reads on mafia since there wasn't much to go on. Losing 1 vote on D1 is really unlikely to actually influence the outcome of the day.

I don't see any evidence you tried to block scum. Not once this game have you discussed CG nor did you mention which mode you tying for. At best you went along with the words I first mentioned. If I suspect someone as scum and try to stop them from doing something, I'm gonna make sure that is known come claim time.

By the way... Why did you not try to let a townie know your identity? If I had the role you claimed I'm pretty sure that would be the route I'd take.

 

[Gwaihir]

Interesting day, looking to be one of the better day 1's.

Not directed at me but I want to add to this. Kegs is in the unfortunate seat of having to explain what his role is, otherwise the town misses out on information. If kegs is mafia then he likely gets lynched, but if he's town then he certainly needs to give up at least some indication of his role, because the mafia know he has a role, and if he's reluctant to tell us then that just makes it likely they will target him.

Apparently this was picked up on as well. I wrote down yesterday that phar and kegs seemed connected and this just further confirms it.

To respond to phar: I found this quiote to be very suspicious for one huge reson - you immediately jump to the idea that kegs is innocent and has to explain himself. Not to the more obvious (to me at least) reason that he is the mafia that killed Drixx. Seems like a prod to a teammate to come up with a story more than a question or accusation at someone who looks guilty.

Might as well give you all the info I have and y'all can decide whether you want to believe me or not.

I am Winthrop, the Innkeeper. I have an ability that I must use every night. I must select a patron to give a potion of clarity to, this patron will be unable to vote the next day, but will be made aware of my identity. I did not target Drixx though, I targeted Caluin Graye. How I ended up targeting Drixx is unknown to me.

Question on story, could you buy potions of clarity from the innkeeper in the game? Does this name even match the claim at all?

As for the actual claim, seems pretty false to me, as I agree that Drixx being a party host seems like the most likely option. And with only kegs on that list, can't see how else it could happen (I would think a bus driver would appear on the list, they pick 2 targets)

I had to do somebody, and cg seems to like to come after me.
Didn't ask, didn't see any reason to since in have to use it.

Isn't there a mafia role that can't be tracked or something? Ninja? Would that apply, not sure, but it would be a fair mafia counter to a likely p.h. Wouldn't it?

Good to know, thanks for the info.

1) So you targeted someone who annoyed you. Thats the only reason?
2) still doesn't account for only 1 name on the list. Also, if there is a redirection power why did they switch you and Drixx? Possible, but odds are very, very low.

I don't get what you're trying to say. I don't think the bus driver counts as visiting someone if he switches people besides himself if that's what you're saying.

Bus drivers are normally told to pick 2 targets. I would bet it would show.

This reminds me
Vote 2: Caluin Graye



I wouldn't see CG doing it.
And, kestegs' took the words straight from my mouth:


I will say this though: drixx/kestegs got bussed and is town. CG is scum. (Jason brought up points in is wall of quotes. Mainly for trying to discredit a lynch 2 thing)
As Fluboodle said "You heard it here first."
Since vote 1 and 2 both have the same voting rules... Honestly, I'd like to see these 'potions' played out. As for the name, Winston Morgan, or w/e, from what BiPolAR said and found, it's a low-key player and someone very likely not to be picked. Smart-ish for scum, but so obvious to everyone else it hurts. But, since information is key:
Vote: kestegs

Btw, Pharphis, cG, coju, ghwaihir, and bipolar are all scum. You should lynch them all.

This seems pretty crazy. You seem to say you know kegs is town and then vote him anyways. Kinda wish we had that 3rd vote Sath was talking about.

I did use it as a help town action, not real sure how you didn't pick that up from what I said. I didn't have any good reads on mafia since there wasn't much to go on. Losing 1 vote on D1 is really unlikely to actually influence the outcome of the day.

...your stated reason was to protect yourself, not to help town.

I don't see any evidence you tried to block scum. Not once this game have you discussed CG nor did you mention which mode you tying for. At best you went along with the words I first mentioned. If I suspect someone as scum and try to stop them from doing something, I'm gonna make sure that is known come claim time.

By the way... Why did you not try to let a townie know your identity? If I had the role you claimed I'm pretty sure that would be the route I'd take.

For kicks kegs, what would they learn about your identity? Role name or player name?

Vote: kestegs
Vote 2: pharphis

 

[Goryani]

I find it interesting that you say 'you should lynch them' instead of 'we should lynch them.'

Shouldn't it be "we should lynch us" since he put his own name on the list?

Also, whats with all these people voting for a dead person? Maybe it is nothing, but usually I pay attention to who died at night. Unless I already knew who was going to die or should have died that night...

Here come the LAMIST police!

 

[Gwaihir]

This is win!

I didn't know you knew my win-con.

Just waiting for solar to announce my victory now...

Yes. I can read the first post.

It seemed like phar and kegs were bantering like teammates yesterday, not like people actually suspicious of eachother

I know I've been expressing the feeling of not necessarily using the second lynch, depending on the situation, but coju didn't attack me.

And here is phar agreeing with kegs again later in the day.

while it could all just be circumstantial twilight stuff, today's evidence says otherwise.

 

[pharphis]

Wow, love from Sath, thats something new, are we buddies now since we were mason partners?



I didn't say you were trying to save him, however, you did try to step in with a "well, lets wait to see what he says" post that wasn't even directed toward you, knowing full well, that if kegs had anything to say his spammer self would come forward with it. It looked like a sad attempt to slow the train progress, maybe in hopes enough for kegs to pull together a miracle story similar to fred's last game, and guess what, I'm still not impressed with your post or his story.

So you are admitting that you will bus someone on your team later in the game? Hm, interesting.



Nothing else interesting to say, oh, looks like he posted, yep, ok. *nods head*



Quick to jump aren't we bipolar? Hm...noted. Didn't have any fun questions to ask of pharphis, like maybe why he felt like he needed to make that post? (You can feel free to answer that too phar)

I'm going to number my responses for each separate paragraph
1. *insert statement that the love is coming from you two being scum partners*
2. I acknowledged the post wasn't directed at me, and responded with my OWN opinions. That's acceptable right? I had a thought about keg's position and thought to share it. Somehow everyone is equation "has an opinion about someone" = "trying to save that someone"
Also, what is it, did I try to save him with my post or not? Make up your damn mind.
3. Nope. already answered this, and my post was a joke with nothing to do with this game in particular.
4. Lern 2 read: I said I didn't buy his claim. That's providing my own thoughts. I said it looked like he posted because he ninja'd me.
5. See 2. I wanted to share my thoughts.

Misinterpreted or deliberately twisted? Lets review them again:





Doesn't look like I twisted anything to me, looks like I'm just pointing out what I see in front of me.



Because we already have two?

Oh, three votes each, I see what he meant. Because kegs and I are obvi scum right? Well, I think kegs is.
Also, you didn't explain yourself there at all. Just quoted me and said "see, guys?"

Interesting day, looking to be one of the better day 1's.



Apparently this was picked up on as well. I wrote down yesterday that phar and kegs seemed connected and this just further confirms it.

To respond to phar: I found this quiote to be very suspicious for one huge reson - you immediately jump to the idea that kegs is innocent and has to explain himself. Not to the more obvious (to me at least) reason that he is the mafia that killed Drixx. Seems like a prod to a teammate to come up with a story more than a question or accusation at someone who looks guilty.

Finally! A REASON!
This at least makes sense. I see it differently, though. Not a prod to a team mate, but to someone who needs to explain themselves quickly so we can decide whether or not to believe him and move on. His case is pretty cut and dry: Either his story matches up or it's crap. Seems like it's crap.

Assume kegs is scum:
Here's a question I believe I've already asked but is more or less rhetorical: Who in their right mind is going to prod their team mate D1 to come up with some crappy story who is almost guaranteed to be lynched? Keep in mind the 2 lynches today ensure that not only will kegs be lynched, but likely any scum partner who "prods" him. See bolded sentence for a reminder.

 

[pharphis]

It seemed like phar and kegs were bantering like teammates yesterday, not like people actually suspicious of eachother



And here is phar agreeing with kegs again later in the day.

while it could all just be circumstantial twilight stuff, today's evidence says otherwise.

During twilight I had no more suspicion for kegs than I did any other player.
Where is the agreement with him? I was pointing out coju's ridiculous behaviour
lol bantering like team mates. that's good.

Anyway, I think BPC has been jumping the gun on trying to get me lynched. Pyro outlined these thoughts himself above.

Vote 2: BipolarChemist

 

[Solar Ice]

Vote tally:

Vote:

kestegs (11):Sathoris, djmbbandie, Pyrotechnician, flubbucket, BipolarChemist, Bad Ash, coju, Goryani, FredofErik, Caluin Graye, Gwaihir
Jason Maher (1): crawlingdeadman


Vote 2:


pharphis (5): Pyrotechnician, Sathoris, BipolarChemist, Bad Ash, Gwaihir
Caluin Graye (1): coju
FredofErik (1): Caluin Graye
BipolarChemist (1): pharphis

kestegs is locked and will be lynched at the end of the Day.

 

[Goryani]

Read back over your game and see the response to the similar table I posted. You'll get it then.

Did the response happen yet?

I can has answer?

Kestegs does seem like an obvious choice, but it seems almost too obvious. If we're going to be served up mafia names every night they target someone, it's going to be an awfully short and easy game. I'll withhold my votes for the moment.

When I first read this, I got a bit of a ragey "this game sucks!" post in disguise vibe. In particular the bolded sentence. Possibly a bit of reverse psychology. Did anyone else have those or similar thoughts?

 

[Laarz]

I'm going to number my responses for each separate paragraph
1. *insert statement that the love is coming from you two being scum partners*
2. I acknowledged the post wasn't directed at me, and responded with my OWN opinions. That's acceptable right? I had a thought about keg's position and thought to share it. Somehow everyone is equation "has an opinion about someone" = "trying to save that someone"
Also, what is it, did I try to save him with my post or not? Make up your damn mind.
3. Nope. already answered this, and my post was a joke with nothing to do with this game in particular.
4. Lern 2 read: I said I didn't buy his claim. That's providing my own thoughts. I said it looked like he posted because he ninja'd me.
5. See 2. I wanted to share my thoughts.

Oh, three votes each, I see what he meant. Because kegs and I are obvi scum right? Well, I think kegs is.
Also, you didn't explain yourself there at all. Just quoted me and said "see, guys?"

Finally! A REASON!
This at least makes sense. I see it differently, though. Not a prod to a team mate, but to someone who needs to explain themselves quickly so we can decide whether or not to believe him and move on. His case is pretty cut and dry: Either his story matches up or it's crap. Seems like it's crap.

Assume kegs is scum:
Here's a question I believe I've already asked but is more or less rhetorical: Who in their right mind is going to prod their team mate D1 to come up with some crappy story who is almost guaranteed to be lynched? Keep in mind the 2 lynches today ensure that not only will kegs be lynched, but likely any scum partner who "prods" him. See bolded sentence for a reminder.

Well if that happened,it would be a kinda reverse Jerome move wouldn't it:wink:

I wonder if cujo is one of the village people and I don't mean the fireman or the indian

 

[pharphis]

Well if that happened,it would be a kinda reverse Jerome move wouldn't it:wink:

I wonder if cujo is one of the village people and I don't mean the fireman or the indian

What DO you mean?

And yes, I think it being the exact opposite of a Jerome is working against me. See Pyro's first accusation

 

[Laarz]

It seems like cujo is trying to get himself lynched, who in the village tries to do that:scratchchin: