lol i like that logic gripphon. Better to spend it and lose it on a less important runeword 
Awww...I missed you too, D2 - Item Find Thread April 2019
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zemaj
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That's actually not totally unsound logic seeing as CoH is roughly 1/2 an 'Infinity', and 1/3 an 'Enigma'...
That, and my point of view should be taken with the caveat that I haven't seriously played HC or Gaurdianed a character in long time (>7y... I should do that again, at some point...)
That, and my point of view should be taken with the caveat that I haven't seriously played HC or Gaurdianed a character in long time (>7y... I should do that again, at some point...)
It comes from observing perspective. Only HC characters I see on the forum are those guardian threads. I don't really see threads about some fancy long-term planned runners from HC, or at least those are super rare on tournament scene as well. Hence I concluded HC is all about the journey, or at least for 9x % characters. Ber drops? Use it on CoH. In time you save for Enigma, you might die. Or you can die a month after Enigma is made. Or Infinity. Solid choice, but it is certainly there to be made!
EatSleepDiablo
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@Jamie
I have probably found three Bers in LK, all from popables. Consequently, I am big proponent of tripping that log or corpse, as long as it is not out of the way.
My two cents on CoH. I put it in Eth bugged sacred armor for my CS running merc. Improved survivability a ton while running P7. Of course I already had a couple infinities and enigmas at the time.
HRs are "common" enough to not really worry about using them. Prior to the MFO, I ran LK for crafting materials (Pgems, rals, etc.) and found 6-7 each of Surs, Vexes, and Ohms (no Lo, LOL). If you dont mind the monotony of LK, it really is a great place to build wealth.
BTW, put a 1.07 Valk Wing on your runner 200 FCR and 7 frame FHR is super easy to obtain...
I have probably found three Bers in LK, all from popables. Consequently, I am big proponent of tripping that log or corpse, as long as it is not out of the way.
My two cents on CoH. I put it in Eth bugged sacred armor for my CS running merc. Improved survivability a ton while running P7. Of course I already had a couple infinities and enigmas at the time.
HRs are "common" enough to not really worry about using them. Prior to the MFO, I ran LK for crafting materials (Pgems, rals, etc.) and found 6-7 each of Surs, Vexes, and Ohms (no Lo, LOL). If you dont mind the monotony of LK, it really is a great place to build wealth.
BTW, put a 1.07 Valk Wing on your runner 200 FCR and 7 frame FHR is super easy to obtain...
Shuffleblast
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I use CoH on my HC blizz sorc (lvl 95) and I definitely recommend it. Better alive with CoH than dead with infinity.
I lost Enigma on my singer whilst questing him, plus Fortitude, SoJ, eth Reaper's and my only Arachnid and Shako etc. That hurt. My advice, make what you will use and just bloody enjoy it. I think that my first HC Ber went into a CoH, but that was just because it suited me at the time for upcoming guardians, if I remember correctly.
Albatross
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...and, we're done 
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Took about 500 runs before she coughed it up and she managed to drop all of these before:
Both the BKWB and the cold skiller are much appreciated.
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Took about 500 runs before she coughed it up and she managed to drop all of these before:
Both the BKWB and the cold skiller are much appreciated.
jonny5
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@Albatross That was the last one, right? Must have been nice knowing you could pick a good target for it and get it reasonably quickly to finish off the grail. Congrats!!
Albatross
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Hey, that was supposed to happen next MFO! 
Congrats!
Congrats!
Babyhell
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Congrats @Albatross !
Thanks for pointing that out @AlbatrossYup, thank you
Oh and big congrats
I appreciate all the input on the Ber. I am definitely in a position I didn't expect to be in. I had no intentions of having anything close to the materal to make a CoH at this point. I mean I am using some pretty absurdly horrid gear for a level 82 sorc that is now at the start of act 4 Hell lol. But focusing on defense makes things tricky sometimes I suppose. The defensive mindset is why I want to make the CoH. It just seems to be the best possible armor for a Blizzard Sorc on HC, in my eyes. Infinity is nice, but with a Cold Sorc it just seems kind of redundant when I can already drop resistances to the bottom of the charts and I really enjoy having the Meditation, especially on HC so I only need to focus on my life pool.
I also plan on probably running bosses, Mephisto in particular, for a long time to build up her gear. So breaking immunities isn't too necessary right now. I haven't actually used an Infinity on a Cold Sorc before, does it break immunities that the Cold Mastery obviously doesn't? If it doesn't, it would seem pretty pointless, but I assume it does break some immunes?
Although I really want to use the Ber right now to make a CoH, I am kind of scared, as my gear is very subpar and I don't want to have one great item and a bunch of trash and die from falling into a fanat, extra strong, mana burn, etc pack and lose a gift from God that I definitely got by accident lol. That is making me want to save it a little bit as I start to do some Mephisto runs. But, at this point in time, I have been playing HC as completely untwinked.. although that may only be because I only have two characters and am fresh at it. As I accumulate gear, I may decide I want to start using useful gear on the appropriate characters. But when I started HC, I thought maybe SC will be my "build sweet characters who I don't have to fear losing everything" side of D2, while HC can be my quest through the game and play untwinked and try to get high level characters with all self found gear. So by that logic I could use the Ber now and enjoy it, since if I die and stay untwinked, it will essentially be a floating Ber Rune lol. But also I like the idea of living longer and using the Ber later on when I feel more comfortable that I won't die.
Perhaps I will find a great Mephisto map (Andy and Ancient Tunnels were really awful to me so far, and my map is great for those two, but the Meph map is horrible right now) and then make the CoH after I finally get the map where I don't fear falling into a trap of dolls/maulers and getting knocked out in one second. I feel that Hell Mephisto is by far the most efficient way to gear up a character with the basics needed for a Sorceress.
So many choices. I don't have any plans of doing LK/Trav/Cow Runs to find Runes anytime soon. I have way more things to worry about before I worry about high runes. This was just a lucky accident lol. At the same time, I would probably be mad if I found a perfect or high resist Vipermagi immediately after making a CoH lol, and it probably would happen. When I first started this SP Run on SC, I found a Death's Fathom before I had gear like Shako, Spirit and stuff on my first SC Blizzer lol. I can't complain about not finding the basics, when I land those things haha.
I guess I want to know the benefits of Infinity on a Cold Sorc. I don't think I will have the runes to make Infinity in a long time the way I plan on acquiring basic gear, plus Enigma isn't that useful I don't think if I am playing a Sorc Untwinked. So CoH seems like it makes sense, unless Infinity is better than I think on a cold sorc. Also of course a CtA is needed quickly, but I will find Ists soon again I am sure and the Ber doesn't help me in the CtA department.. so using it on CoH doesn't seem to halt my CtA progress at all.
If I die before I use Ber, I may plan on having a twinked HC char at some point, as letting it become a useless, floating Ber would be pointless. I even entertained the idea of trading Ber to stack up on useful gear and play my HC chars as an untwinked version where it has to be gear I find that I use, or gear I find and trade. So half untwinked, since the gear I am using will still be all from the findings of that one char.
I have been saving items I find on my two HC characters and putting them into gomule files for certain characters, ones that I don't need saved on my Sorc or Druid for useful or grail purposes, incase I do go twinked one day and change my strategy. It's just that I am old the mindset of pure untwinked at the moment and not losing that Ber lol.
Sorry long, rambling post.
I also plan on probably running bosses, Mephisto in particular, for a long time to build up her gear. So breaking immunities isn't too necessary right now. I haven't actually used an Infinity on a Cold Sorc before, does it break immunities that the Cold Mastery obviously doesn't? If it doesn't, it would seem pretty pointless, but I assume it does break some immunes?
Although I really want to use the Ber right now to make a CoH, I am kind of scared, as my gear is very subpar and I don't want to have one great item and a bunch of trash and die from falling into a fanat, extra strong, mana burn, etc pack and lose a gift from God that I definitely got by accident lol. That is making me want to save it a little bit as I start to do some Mephisto runs. But, at this point in time, I have been playing HC as completely untwinked.. although that may only be because I only have two characters and am fresh at it. As I accumulate gear, I may decide I want to start using useful gear on the appropriate characters. But when I started HC, I thought maybe SC will be my "build sweet characters who I don't have to fear losing everything" side of D2, while HC can be my quest through the game and play untwinked and try to get high level characters with all self found gear. So by that logic I could use the Ber now and enjoy it, since if I die and stay untwinked, it will essentially be a floating Ber Rune lol. But also I like the idea of living longer and using the Ber later on when I feel more comfortable that I won't die.
Perhaps I will find a great Mephisto map (Andy and Ancient Tunnels were really awful to me so far, and my map is great for those two, but the Meph map is horrible right now) and then make the CoH after I finally get the map where I don't fear falling into a trap of dolls/maulers and getting knocked out in one second. I feel that Hell Mephisto is by far the most efficient way to gear up a character with the basics needed for a Sorceress.
So many choices. I don't have any plans of doing LK/Trav/Cow Runs to find Runes anytime soon. I have way more things to worry about before I worry about high runes. This was just a lucky accident lol. At the same time, I would probably be mad if I found a perfect or high resist Vipermagi immediately after making a CoH lol, and it probably would happen. When I first started this SP Run on SC, I found a Death's Fathom before I had gear like Shako, Spirit and stuff on my first SC Blizzer lol. I can't complain about not finding the basics, when I land those things haha.
I guess I want to know the benefits of Infinity on a Cold Sorc. I don't think I will have the runes to make Infinity in a long time the way I plan on acquiring basic gear, plus Enigma isn't that useful I don't think if I am playing a Sorc Untwinked. So CoH seems like it makes sense, unless Infinity is better than I think on a cold sorc. Also of course a CtA is needed quickly, but I will find Ists soon again I am sure and the Ber doesn't help me in the CtA department.. so using it on CoH doesn't seem to halt my CtA progress at all.
If I die before I use Ber, I may plan on having a twinked HC char at some point, as letting it become a useless, floating Ber would be pointless. I even entertained the idea of trading Ber to stack up on useful gear and play my HC chars as an untwinked version where it has to be gear I find that I use, or gear I find and trade. So half untwinked, since the gear I am using will still be all from the findings of that one char.
I have been saving items I find on my two HC characters and putting them into gomule files for certain characters, ones that I don't need saved on my Sorc or Druid for useful or grail purposes, incase I do go twinked one day and change my strategy. It's just that I am old the mindset of pure untwinked at the moment and not losing that Ber lol.
Sorry long, rambling post.
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third lower kurast of the morning and we get a nice drop . dropped off of a monster, too I believe
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@RyanGT LK is popping off. I think it's the placement of our solar system within the Milky Way Galaxy. 3 and a half LK Runs, 1 Ber and 1 Vex. The payout is huge right now. Load up everyone.
It's been so long since I've made a CoH, I forgot I needed an Um too and I put my Um Rune in my Merc's Duress because I was basically playing a Merc geared up for late normal, but in Hell lol. So I guess I gotta find me an Um if I want that CoH lol. If my Hellforge pops out an Um, then I'll know it was meant to be lol.
Well I didn't get an Um, but I got a Gul for the first time in ages from Forge. I had been getting usually like Fal, Lem range stuff almost every time, occasionally getting lucky with a Pul maybe and I just got a Gul lol. No CoH yet, but not mad one bit lol.
So the best uniques/sets I've gathered on her through A4 Hell, are Magefist, Hotspur and Ravenfrost.... but I've found Um, Ist, Ber, Gul all in a pretty short time frame. This game never ceases to do the weirdest things lol. I'd much rather get all these great runes early, I can always find the Shakos, etc. later lol
It's been so long since I've made a CoH, I forgot I needed an Um too and I put my Um Rune in my Merc's Duress because I was basically playing a Merc geared up for late normal, but in Hell lol. So I guess I gotta find me an Um if I want that CoH lol. If my Hellforge pops out an Um, then I'll know it was meant to be lol.
Well I didn't get an Um, but I got a Gul for the first time in ages from Forge. I had been getting usually like Fal, Lem range stuff almost every time, occasionally getting lucky with a Pul maybe and I just got a Gul lol. No CoH yet, but not mad one bit lol.
So the best uniques/sets I've gathered on her through A4 Hell, are Magefist, Hotspur and Ravenfrost.... but I've found Um, Ist, Ber, Gul all in a pretty short time frame. This game never ceases to do the weirdest things lol. I'd much rather get all these great runes early, I can always find the Shakos, etc. later lol
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Barely any, unless you're focusing on areas with CIs. I only use Blizzy with Infinity for Travincal. That's why IMO CoH is best use of your Ber. Other armors are better for specific purposes, but I'd go for CoH unless
- you want to MF => Tal's 3-piece combo (or some weird Enigma setup)
- you're running targets that don't require good resist (e.g. Cows) => Enigma/Blizzard Ormus
- you need good resist but you have numerous awesome charms (life, @..) => Enigma/Ormus/Viper
- you really need FCR => Viper/Ormus (but 105 is easy to hit and even 63 is fine)
- you're time traveling and don't have any other needs => 1.07 Arkaine's Valor
