Another idiot's question...

[baalos]

Another idiot's question...

1) To answer the questions of many idiots, FACETS do NOT work on traps/minions/summons/etc

Do they work on mercs? I have a poison facet that does 51 poison explosion upon death, since he tends to die upon occasion, might make for some fun payback.

 

[det]

All I know that discussions have been going on how fun it would be to load up a merc with 7 sockets in armour/helm all full of "on dying" facets and use him as a kamikaze merc. (so some ppl obviously thought it would work).

I always found this idea very tiresome (read: complicated) and costly (Just the revive costs for a Shenk Eldrich run would be 100k.)

 

[kenshinlod]

All I know that discussions have been going on how fun it would be to load up a merc with 7 sockets in armour/helm all full of "on dying" facets and use him as a kamikaze merc. (so some ppl obviously thought it would work).

I always found this idea very tiresome (read: complicated) and costly (Just the revive costs for a Shenk Eldrich run would be 100k.)

I think it doesn't work.

 

[baalos]

Pro: 1
Con: 1

Wasnt thinking so much as a sucide run, but how else could we see this unless on ourselves? That option does not really appeal to me.

 

[PhatTrumpet]

The quote in the original post is referring to the fact that a Facet on your character does not affect your merc/minion/summon's damage, the most common application being that traps count as minions and a trapper wearing Facets will not recieve any actual trap bonuses from the jewels, although your skill information will list otherwise. The Facet itself works just fine on the Merc and the Merc's attacks and deaths, but it won't affect your damage, or vice versa.

Also, the death effects of Facets of the same type do not stack.

 

[baalos]

Ohhh awesome! Thanks!

 

[stevethatsmyname]

I have yet another idiot's question... this one is a little more complicated...

do mercs have synergies and masteries? I am mostly talking about the act-3 iron wolves. They can have fire, lightning, or cold skills. I am wondering if these skills count as synergies to each other. And if so, if they perhaps count as synergies towards skills they 'cannot have'.

Here is the reason: When a sorceress with a facet dies (its been tested in softcore) the spell cast upon death is affected by synergies and mastery. Thats why everyone on softcore seems to be after 'die' facets... they can deal significant damage upon death... and thats what softcore players do a LOT!

So if the iron wolves can use synergies, then a cold Iron wolf would be able to deal significantly more BLIZZARD damage upon death with a cold facet (since he has points in glacial spike and ice blast). THat would be pretty neat if it works like that, but i really dont have any clue =).

 

[turnips]

Also, the death effects of Facets of the same type do not stack.

But does that mean if you found facets of all 4 types with the death thing and socketed them in a merc armor that his/her death would cause 4 different things to happen? (I don't know if each psn/lit/fire/cold has an 'upon death' mod because I don't really pay attention to that mod on a facet so my question may be moot but I'm too lazy to check them... :uhhuh: )

 

[PhatTrumpet]

I intentionally avoided that issue because I don't know the answer, but I can tell you that there are death and level versions of all four elemental Facets.

 

[det]

do mercs have synergies and masteries? I am mostly talking about the act-3 iron wolves. They can have fire, lightning, or cold skills. I am wondering if these skills count as synergies to each other. And if so, if they perhaps count as synergies towards skills they 'cannot have'.

Apparently giving an act 3 fire merc 2 pieces of TO set adds +18 synergy to his FB.
So I have read.
But have not tested it.
Because my merc is not lv 65 yet (Helm and armour are the pieces I am talking about of course)

Updates in a week or so :lol:

 

[Baranor]

do also test if facets are bugged like bone marrow... that would be... interesting ^_^...

 

[Mal]

How about putting facets on a merc, and letting people kill him in a duel game? Anyone try that before?

 

[baalos]

If what Phat says is true, that would be pretty funny. I wonder what lvl 51 poison nova on a dead merc does if you have 75% poison immunity.

 

[thamuzdevil]

Oh man Mal... Dont say that please. I have killed mercs before, easily, before taking someone on... I dont want to think about that happening.

WOW that would SUCK.

 

[PhatTrumpet]

It's not nearly as bad as you guys think. Merc's don't have elemental masteries or synergies, so it's highly unlikely that any facet would do more than a couple hundred damage to you after resists and PvP penalty. If it really was that godly people would have been exploiting it long ago.