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200% FCR in the making...Help!!??

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Mooker899

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200% FCR in the making...Help!!??

Well I plan on using this gear for my FB Sorceress (200 fcr):

Wizard's Spike 15 Resist/-15 Reqs.
Skin of the Vipermagi (35 res)
Griffon's Eye 'Um'/ Sorceress Circlet
Armagedon Fletch / Legit Equivalent
Lidless w/ Fire Facet
Arachnid's Belt
2x Faster Cast Rate rings life/mana
Magefist Gloves
Boots: Soul Spur (for Dex/Str)
Call to Arms/Lidless
10 Fire Skillers
Annihilus

Now, heres my questions/concerns for my build.

*I am a total noob to Fire Sorcs

~What should my stats look like as far as Life/Mana balance. I dont know if ES is a good idea or not, considering I want good damage too. Help?

~What damage should I expect without Energy Shield/Telekenis set-up? What about with a ES set-up?

~Is FHR important for S v S?

-MoOk

Add any input please!
 
well first of all id say that is goin to be a very good fber. Id say stat wise u go either no dex or max block.As much strength as u need to wear gear and then the rest into vit and energy. its always good for a sorc to have a good bit more energy points than vit points but thats up 2 u.Im not sure wut the dmg would turn out to be but u wont be dissapointed.Well i hope i was some help but prob not.

Joe~
 
Mooker899 said:
Well I plan on using this gear for my FB Sorceress (200 fcr):

Wizard's Spike 15 Resist/-15 Reqs.
Skin of the Vipermagi (35 res)
Griffon's Eye 'Um'/ Sorceress Circlet
Armagedon Fletch / Legit Equivalent
Lidless w/ Fire Facet
Arachnid's Belt
2x Faster Cast Rate rings life/mana
Magefist Gloves
Boots: Soul Spur (for Dex/Str)
Call to Arms/Lidless
10 Fire Skillers
Annihilus

Now, heres my questions/concerns for my build.

*I am a total noob to Fire Sorcs

~What should my stats look like as far as Life/Mana balance. I dont know if ES is a good idea or not, considering I want good damage too. Help?

~What damage should I expect without Energy Shield/Telekenis set-up? What about with a ES set-up?

~Is FHR important for S v S?

-MoOk

Add any input please!
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You can use a +2 Sorc/20 fcr/resist/stats circlet over the grif helm. Also socket with Shael, not um.

Shael = 4 sc worth of fhr
Um = 3 sc worth of resists
 
I don't know how the dmg is going to look with ES, but I wouldn't suggest using it... you tele won't be to cheap and you will be burning mana like crazy casting so fast... I'm building nearly the same sorc but it is not finished yet. I wouldn't suggest ES though, Fire spells are very synergy dependant, and like you said the dmg will be severely lacking without those extra 30~ points. Keep in mind you will need a nice amount of mana though since you will be casting so fast... faster cast = more spells = more mana...

:xfrosty:
 
well, if you have enough skills to boost you mabey you can afford to max teleknis but leave es at mabey 5 points? That way you can still max Fb, bolt, meteor and mastery, but this build will require a very high lvl to complete, somewhere around the 95s i belive, and its very skill dependant.
Or mabey there is a second option, as said satok said b4 your tele will burn you alive, therefor why not put a few points into it, mabey you can spare 5 poins into teleport to make it bareable or something of the sort.
 
Hmm Im seeing some good information but am very confused with the build still :lol: .

I understand I'll be burning mana but with Warmth, Battle Orders, Sojs, Magies, wont I have enough with a decent amount into Energy-nothing spectacular? ARG! SO CONFUSED!

I hope I can pull this off, Im thinking of incorperating ES/TK somehow into this build.
It'd really help if you tell me how yours is turning/turned out Sartok.
It'd be sweet if you could say something you could've changed to improve, if its not too much to ask. Possibly stats and damage. idk

Im starting to think I cant pull this off :-/!

-MoOk
 
I'll start pushing hard... and maybe I can assist you haha... I'm at a loss for rushes right now though... they're rather hard to come by on ladder...

And yes, I think you can survive for sure with no energy... your warmth will be huge.
 
Well for dueling purposes of course go with all life. Even with PvM, still go with all life since a few mana pots will solve all your problems (I might be biased since I am HC). With good charms wizpike/vipermagi, you should not have to worry about that um rune instead a good fire facet in a +2 sorc skill 20 fcr /w mods will work best for helms. Defenitly consider ES to be a huge pain in butt, since you would have to spend 40 points for it to be really effective and then it burns mana like crazy, it also costs you 20 points of firebolt synergy, which is a lot looking at your items. Instead, I would spend the rest of my points in either teleport or warmth, I mean, who doesn't like the ability to teleport while spending almost no mana? In pvp, FHR is important vs ANYTHING, once you start dueling in pubbies you will notice how a lot of the noobs will be in constant lock by your high attack sorc. This is because no matter what attack, you don't want to be stuck under it doing nothing!!! GL with your sorc (although I personally condemn dupes! :))
 
Grab a +6-9 Eshield Staff. Should give you a lv 11-14 eshield with out any points in it. Get TK to at least 16 hard points. Then do some simple math to figure out the % life and mana you want.
 
I think that the only problem is those points in TK, the ES is easy... 1 point or 40 points... it all helps when you got TK maxed out... I just think that it is the only problem... plus you would have to sacrifice life for mana, for an ES build that would obviously not be a 95% absorbtion energy shield.

:xfrosty:
 
Hey Mook,
I have a fire sorc (enchantress) that has 20 TK and nothing in ES, (I cast at around lvl 14 or 15 with a memory staff) I really don't know how that would stand up PvP wise, I've only PvM'd with her so far. It's a decent setup in PvM and except for mana burns I basically never dent my mana. However, if you'd like to do some 'real world' PvP tests with it .. I'd be happy to stand there, let you hit me and spew back some numbers to ya.

let me know.

the other thing of course is that my fire sorc is an enchantress, so warmth is maxed and I regenerate at an unbelievable rate, I've tried teleporting like crazy @ 105%FCR and I can't deplete it .. but as an fb'er you woulden't max warmth ..
 
squigipapa said:
Hey Mook,
I have a fire sorc (enchantress) that has 20 TK and nothing in ES, (I cast at around lvl 14 or 15 with a memory staff) I really don't know how that would stand up PvP wise, I've only PvM'd with her so far. It's a decent setup in PvM and except for mana burns I basically never dent my mana. However, if you'd like to do some 'real world' PvP tests with it .. I'd be happy to stand there, let you hit me and spew back some numbers to ya.

let me know.

the other thing of course is that my fire sorc is an enchantress, so warmth is maxed and I regenerate at an unbelievable rate, I've tried teleporting like crazy @ 105%FCR and I can't deplete it .. but as an fb'er you woulden't max warmth ..
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Yea that'd be good, and I know warmth wouldn't be maxed but have decent level with + Skills.
I guess you can help me get her going then squigi if you want to :D. /w me this weekend, P.S. it's duel time with your wwsin new assn is nearly finished ;).
 
@Mook, cool, will do, and if you want some help leveling her fast, just lemme know, I can enchant, BO, BC, Shout etc. on second comp and we can run cows/baal. I'm thinking of building another barb so If you haven't started her yet lemme know.

l8r
 
squigipapa said:
@Mook, cool, will do, and if you want some help leveling her fast, just lemme know, I can enchant, BO, BC, Shout etc. on second comp and we can run cows/baal. I'm thinking of building another barb so If you haven't started her yet lemme know.

l8r
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Well Squigi tell you what, because your helping me out.
I'll try to get us glitch rushed and chaos'd free :D.
I know for sure I can get us hell rushes.
Easy leveling with my clan, I joined ClanPk :thumbsup: .

-MoOk

Let's start Friday possibly?
 
Sartok said:
I think that the only problem is those points in TK, the ES is easy... 1 point or 40 points... it all helps when you got TK maxed out... I just think that it is the only problem... plus you would have to sacrifice life for mana, for an ES build that would obviously not be a 95% absorbtion energy shield.

:xfrosty:
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I have a lvl 95 FB sorc on ladder yet am only casting at 130% yet some thinngs that have not really been mentioned about this build seem to be important.

At 200% FCR things will change slightly, yet I have tested out the FCR on non ladder and if built correctly you are not going to have a mana issue.

First, and many may disagree, I would place 20 in TK and one in ES. With items and 10 fire skillers your mana reg. is over 300% and your Mana is taking hits at .75. I chose a wierd way to place my stat points and went with a mix of mana and life yet in dueling even if my mana ball gets wiped out I can still tele since my regen is so fast. You have to run for a minute teleing around but your mana rebounds fast. On my build I have also tons of life so I can take a full hit from a Lightning sorc. and still live and play offensively instead of defensively worring about getting killed in one hit and dying. This has worked out great for me. At 200% I still think your mana recharge will be so big that you will not have to worry about mana. Remember that if you go with maxing TS and 1 in ES your mana becomes your life also and mixed with your life ball (vita), it can give you huge life. There are many ways to build a FB sorc. and it all depends on how you distribute your stat points and also your skills. I have tried maxed block sorc. yet you are wasting way to many points in dex. which in the long run, will cripple you IMO. Remember a sorc. is not a tank who can stand there. If you are good at tele you will get hit less and that is the key to the FB build anyway. Fast ranged attack. I do not think, once my FB sorc gets the items to test for the 200% FCR I will have any problems on the "needing mana side" the way I have built my FB sorc. If you go all vita though, like some do, you will suffer IMO. You have to sarafice quite a bit to get the 200% and you no longer can use a shako which is somewhat a huge item.

Good Luck on your build.
 
200fcr is relatively easy to achieve, but for most of the times its not worth it. Too much equipment sacrifices...

wizspike = 50
08 valk - 30
wizglove - 50
rare ammy - 20
spider - 20
lidless - 20
1x fcr ring - 10

or just add 1x fcr ring and vipermage and magefist if you take out 08 valk and wizglove.

There you go. :thumbsup:

- Dennis
 
The sacrifice isnt that bad, it provides decent res and survivability...

Plus its decent with FCR!


:xfrosty:
 
Wizglove?? Isn't there some policy here against using hacked items?

And the OP have to go meteorb, not all fire.
 
The policy is against selling them, not talking about them... and I think mooker is using this for pvp so pure fire won't matter... or cause any trouble. Am I right or am I right?


:xfrosty:
 
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