1.07 News, Info, and Gossip

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Could this be the known bug in Bosses HP? I can say for sure that it is there with Hell Andy, Hell Duriel and Hell Meph. I play P8 rushes mostly.

Possibly. The same thing just happened, under the exact same circumstances. Perhaps Duriel has some wonky stuff going on with his HP on /p3?
 

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The strangest thing just happened. I was rushing 2 characters through Hell, and reached Duriel. As I braced myself for the combat, and entered the tomb preparing to open a TP, the bug charged towards me and then just died. Outright just died without ever landing a single blow. A non-quest drop too, 2 scrolls and gold, but this is probably explained by the other chars waiting outside the entrance. Didn't affect anything really, the toons that waited outside just entered the tomb and talked to Tyrael.
Check out this post by @Fruit on the old forums:
It explains your Duriel p3 but not why @m4ke gets it in his p8 rushes.

Btw what do you mean with "non-quest drop"? Duriel doesn't have any quest drop in 1.07. (and neither do the other bosses if you discard Andariel's gems and Baal's goldpile)
 
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Well, that certainly explains my experience with Duriel. Forgot about the lack of quest drops. Bosses aren't too interesting in 1.07, never paid any attention to that.

What Sword would be good for a Barbarian before BK? I could just level him up in Cows/Bloody Foothills, but even that seems quite slow (and will get slower still). Might as well play the guy myself. He's level 56 now. Some other gear tips would be welcomed too.
 

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It explains your Duriel p3 but not why @m4ke gets it in his p8 rushes.
Well I disagree with that table only with Hell Meph P8. I'll pay attention on that when I rush dudes next time. It might take some time coz I do my HF rushes now in 1.00.

m4ke

Edit: I did my final HF rush in 1.07 and checked HP bugs and I timed the playtime.

Code:
Dificulty       Time    Bugged (P8)
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Norm              41.56 No HP bugs
NM              1.30.28 Duriel, Meph
->Hell A4       2.00.55 Andy, Duriel

So the table by Fruit is correct and I was thinking NM Meph.

NM was slow because there was TeleHealing Lister for example. I didn't even kill him/her. Baal went to his chamber and left Lister TeleTele there =)
 
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....

Open Questions

Important questions that are not entirely clear to me:
  • How do you mule in 1.10a/1.10s? Is there a multi-instance .dll? Is it included in the trenshadow files?
  • I read this quote by @pharphis : 'I collected the forges in 1.10s itself. Some people do this in 1.10a then forward to 1.10s (requires an ATMA IV tool to convert items from 1.10a to 1.10s iirc) ' ; What does this mean? Can't you mule off the 1.10a runes via TC/IP to a 1.10a lvl 1 char and then open that lvl 1 char in 1.10s?
  • Has anyone ever tested whether a character that followed the 'Andariel quest-bugging' procedure (i.e. after first killing Andariel you take a TP home and talk to Warriv) in a patch 1.00-1.09 is actually quest bugged when forwarded to 1.10a?
The way I see it there is no need to 'mule' in 1.10s itself since you only ever visit that patch to make beta CtA, everything else that is interesting is in 1.10a. So to make beta CtA you send a mule with 5os weapon, Amn, Ral, Mal, Ist and Ohm to 1.10s and let him make the RW. Then you forward it to modern, mule off the item and delete the mule.



Did I miss anything?
Adding to the 1.10 beta post I made back then:
  • Multi-instance .dlls are in the trenshadow files in the Links sticky, that one was easy.
  • You need ATS (a to s :p) to actually forward from 1.10a to 1.10s. I tested this morning without the tool and got an empty char in 1.10s. You can download the tool together with ATMA IV (necessary to run it) here on the ATMA page. Once you opened the character you want to forward in ATS you open the "File" menu and select the "Convert to 1.10s" option which will convert the character and close it in ATS. Very easy to use and completely justifies playing exclusively in 1.10a and just going to 1.10s to make CtA.
  • Yes this works, a few people in this thread tested it and so did I now, works like a charm.
Two more things about the betas:
  • Cold Mastery in 1.10a gives -(5+3*(slvl-1)) Enemy Cold Resist vs. the -(20+5*(slvl-1)) from modern which means that Frozen Orb is not good enough to take out Hephasto reliably. I had to make myself a Hammerdin to collect forges but he is very good at it.
  • There is a snapshot of the Arreat Summit from around the time 1.10s was released. It includes patch notes for the beta (which the basin wiki doesn't have) and could be interesting to learn more about the beta but also about 1.09. You already saw this @Helvete ?
And finally I wish I read this post by Hakai_no_Tenshi before looking at my beta Call to Arms in GoMule. Looks freaky:
Call to Arms
War Scepter
AmnRalMalIstOhm
One Hand Damage: 35 - 61
Durability: 70 of 70
Required Level: 57
Required Strength: 55
Fingerprint: 0x5e0ba0e1
GUID: 0xa771cb35 0xadd9e871 0x0
Item Level: 36
Version: Legacy (pre 1.08)
+2 to All Skills
+40% Increased Attack Speed
259% Enhanced Damage
+150% Damage to Undead
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+3 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)
+17 to Battle Command
+11 to Battle Orders
+12 to Battle Cry
Replenish Life +12
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
5 Sockets (5 used)
Socketed: Amn Rune
Socketed: Ral Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Socketed: Ist Rune
Socketed: Ohm Rune

Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
GUID: 0x22c4be16 0x22c4be16 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
GUID: 0xdaa52934 0x45897c2c 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%

Mal Rune
Required Level: 49
GUID: 0x11a68dba 0x684e3a42 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: Prevent Monster Heal
Armor: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Magic Damage Reduced by 7

Ist Rune
Required Level: 51
GUID: 0xfffffffe 0x7ab6fbbf 0x0
Version: Expansion
Weapons: 30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Armor: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Shields: 25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Ohm Rune
Required Level: 57
GUID: 0x3bdcbdb7 0x8b13a987 0x0
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Enhanced Maximum Damage
Armor: +5% to Maximum Cold Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Cold Resist

EDIT: Ok there must be some sort of bug in GoMule. If I open the Character in ATMA I get this readout for the Ist Rune:
Ist Rune
Inserted into a War Scepter

30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Required Level: 51
Item Version: Expansion
GUID: 0xffffffff 0x1eadbeef 0x0
So that's a bit closer to -1 deadbeef but still off by one digit, wtf Tenshi 🧐
 
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Update..

Earthshaker:
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Radament's Sphere:
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Spellsteel:
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Code:
Earthshaker
Battle Hammer
One-Hand Damage: 98 to 162
Durability: 34 of 55
Required Strength: 100
Required Level: 43
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x12be3786
+180% Enhanced Damage
Knockback
30% Increased Attack Speed
Hit Blinds Target +0
150% Damage to Undead
3% Chance to cast Level 7 Fissure on striking

Radament's Sphere
Ancient Shield
Defense: 173
Chance to Block:  61%
Smite Damage: 12 to 16
Durability: 43 of 80
Required Strength: 110
Required Level: 50
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x54e2c195
+85% Enhanced Defense
+25% Increased Chance of Blocking
Poison Resist +20%
Adds 12-23 poison damage over 3 seconds
4% Chance to cast Level 4 Poison Nova when struck

Spellsteel
Bearded Axe
Two-Hand Damage: 55 to 129
Durability: 17 of 35
Required Strength: 37
Required Level: 39
Axe Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0x4709b51e
+100 to Mana
+165% Enhanced Damage
Magic Damage Reduced by 20
Requirements -60%
10% Faster Cast Rate

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@m4ke How far are you with Grail? I can remember you already posting rack screenshots well over a year ago on the old forum. You must have nearly everything by now :D
 

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@art_vandelay I though ATMA IV worked for 1.10s?
It apparently does, but I only used it to open ATS. I created a TCP/IP game in order to make the CtA because ATS already seemed sketchy to me, let alone a version of ATMA for a beta patch.

In any case GoMule can't properly read the GUID and even ATMA V isn't correctly displaying it (although it's closer to deadbeef than GoMule)
 

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Shopping at Baal's.

Langer Briser:
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Mara's Kaleidoscope:
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Blackleach Blade:
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Code:
Langer Briser
Arbalest
Two-Hand Damage: 37 to 72
Required Dexterity: 61
Required Strength: 52
Required Level: 32
Crossbow Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0x40bd5aa1
+30 to Life
+170% Enhanced Damage
45% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Knockback
1% Chance to cast Level 3 Tornado on striking

Blackleach Blade
Bill
Two-Hand Damage: 28 to 106
Durability: 38 of 50
Required Strength: 71
Required Level: 42
Polearm Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0x7ff4906c
+100% Enhanced Damage
8% Life stolen per hit
-2 to Light Radius
Requirements -25%
3% Chance to cast Level 5 Weaken on striking
+1 to Maximum Damage (1.25 per Character Level)

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@m4ke Can you post a readout of 1.07 Ghoulhide and Gravepalm? The wayback machine claims that they have better damage vs. undead in 1.07-1.08 than in 1.09+.


Could be quite interesting for chars that want to run Pindle in 1.09 or later versions.
 

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UniqueItems.txt states that Gravepalm has a static 200% damage to UD, instead of the variable 100-200% of the modern one.

Ghoulhide has 32/lvl damage to undead, which should translate to 4% per level. For reference Boneslayer Blade has 20/lvl which translates to 2.5%/lvl.
 
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UniqueItems.txt states that Gravepalm has a static 200% damage to UD, instead of the variable 100-200% of the modern one.

Ghoulhide has 32/lvl damage to undead, which should translate to 4% per level. For reference Boneslayer Blade has 20/lvl which translates to 2.5%/lvl.
Correct. The level-dependant mods have their parameters written in 1/8th.
Code:
Gravepalm
Sharkskin Gloves
Defense: 64
Durability: 9 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 32
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0x51ca219e
+5 to Strength
+10 to Energy
+60% Enhanced Defense
200% Damage to Undead
+129 to Attack Rating against Undead
Code:
Ghoulhide
Heavy Bracers
Defense: 54
Durability: 11 of 16
Required Strength: 58
Required Level: 36
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 57
Fingerprint: 0x274d390d
+20 to Life
+20% Enhanced Defense
5% Life stolen per hit
96% Damage to Undead (4 per Character Level)
96% Bonus to Attack Rating Against Undead (4 per Character Level)
Note: lvl24 character
 
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Thanks for the readouts!

Well that's the funny thing, in 1.14d the AR vs. Undead mod for Ghoulhide is given as 16 but ingame you get 8 per level so here it is divided by 2 instead of 8. At the same time the % ED vs. Undead on Ghoulhide in 1.14d is given as 16 in the files and you get 2 per level ingame i.e. it's divided by 8.

That had me confused.
 

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Well that's the funny thing, in 1.14d the AR vs. Undead mod for Ghoulhide is given as 16 but ingame you get 8 per level so here it is divided by 2 instead of 8.
Looks like all items with AR/level (full, vs. undead, or vs. demons) gets four times what you'd expect in (at least) 1.13+. My best guess is that they realized that AR wasn't equivalent to DMG, and changed the divisor for those stats in the item stat calculation process.
 
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@Derklord is back! Edit: Just noticed that you are linking to our Proggy in your signature. Here is the latest version with 1.08 caps too.

Readouts are there so I'll post a little update.

Boneslayer Blade:
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The Fetid Sprinkler:
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Grim's Burning Dead:
03_Grim's_Burning_Dead.jpg

Code:
Boneslayer Blade
Gothic Axe
Two-Hand Damage: 54 to 210
Durability: 39 of 50
Required Dexterity: 79
Required Strength: 115
Required Level: 42
Axe Class - Very Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x54d980a3
+8 to Strength
+200% Enhanced Damage
20% Increased Attack Speed
35% Bonus to Attack Rating
2% Damage to Undead (2.5 per Character Level)
5% Bonus to Attack Rating Against Undead (5 per Character Level)

The Fetid Sprinkler
Holy Water Sprinkler
One-Hand Damage: 39 to 100
Durability: 48 of 60
Required Strength: 76
Required Level: 38
Mace Class - Slow Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x2df1c508
+180% Enhanced Damage
Adds 29-39 poison damage over 2 seconds
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
150% Damage to Undead
3% Chance to cast Level 10 Decrepify on striking
3% Chance to cast Level 2 Confuse on striking

Grim's Burning Dead
Grim Scythe
Two-Hand Damage: 87 to 203
Durability: 35 of 55
Required Dexterity: 140
Required Strength: 140
Required Level: 45
Polearm Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x7201fa3e
+10 to Strength
+190% Enhanced Damage
Fire Resist +15%
Adds 20-50 fire damage
Attacker Takes Damage of 8

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Okay, I've got a HC sorc up and running in 1.07. I forwarded her from 1.00 along with some gear (Tarnhelm, rare res+MF amu, Gull, some rare resist body armor, 3xPDia shield, Frostburn, 2x SoJ, Nightsmoke, decent rare boots with resists). Nothing too fancy, but something to get started with. The build is the standard FO+SF.

I did some shopping to get a chromatic shield and body armor with high +life -> I also brought some rushees from 1.00 and used their socket quests until the shopped item got a good amount of sockets. That took a while and many socket quests, but this is what I got in the end:

Prefix 985 Full Plate Mail of the Whale
Defense: 150
Durability: 70 of 70
Required Strength: 80
Required Level: 37
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x1b1c0d76
+98 to Life
+40 to Mana
96% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Socketed (4: 4 used)

Prefix 1002 Tower Shield of Life
Defense: 24
Chance to Block: 44%
Durability: 60 of 60
Required Strength: 75
Required Level: 33
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 85
Fingerprint: 0x14bf10f7
Damage Reduced by 7
All Resistances +87
Socketed (3: 3 used)


With those I could bring the sorcs defensive capabilities to a level I could be happy with, especially considering she has 0% FCR. Off to the racks then...

It takes some time to find a rack which is both stable and drops a worthwhile base item. Usually I check Lower Kurast, Kurast Bazaar and Halls of Pain for useful racks before I reroll the map. Haven't bothered with any other areas (yet). The first useful rack(s) I got were Berserker Axe and Balrog Skin in Lower Kurast. I had wished for a Bone Knife rack first to get some FCR and to speed up future racking, but decided to rack Arkaine's (got it after 14 Sazabi's):

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I don't know why the screenie came out like that 🧐 I think it has something to do with the glide wrapper. The screenshots I take also seem to vary in resolution for no apparent reason.

Next up was a Mythical Sword rack (again in LK) -> it's soooo much easier to rack sets than uniques!

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Then I got the Bone Knife rack I had wished for:

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Larzuk punched a hole in the Wiz Spike and I dumped a Hel rune inside (got that one from a rushee NM forge). The resist boost allowed me to replace the rare res+MF amu with plain MF amu with higher MF%. Also the resists from Nightsmoke and rare boots became unnecessary -> decided to do some Blood Raven runs:

20210320_1.07_MavinasBelt.jpg

Mav's Belt = more FRW = faster racking. Also got Aldur's boots there (no screenie) -> more life + FRW.

Since then I've been racking in Halls of Pain, got 1 more BK Myth Sword and 4x Tal's armor:

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Arkaine's Valor
Balrog Skin
Defense: 1554
Required Strength: 165
Required Level: 85
Indestructible
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x394b02be
+200% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist +50%
+2 to All Skill Levels
30% Faster Hit Recovery
+2 to Life (2 per Character Level)
+2 to Vitality (2.5 per Character Level)

Bul-Kathos' Tribal Guardian
Mythical Sword
One-Hand Damage: 39 to 156
Durability: 42 of 44
Required Dexterity: 40
Required Strength: 157
Required Level: 72
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x14e36590
+20 to Strength
+200% Enhanced Damage
Fire Resist +50%
+49 poison damage over 2 seconds
20% Increased Attack Speed

Wizardspike
Bone Knife
'Hel'
One-Hand Damage: 11 to 36
Required Dexterity: 60
Required Strength: 52
Required Level: 61
Dagger Class - Fast Attack Speed
Indestructible
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x3c8a73f5
Regenerate Mana 15%
All Resistances +95
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
Requirements -20%
50% Faster Cast Rate
+160 to Mana (2 per Character Level)
Socketed (1: 1 used)

M'avina's Tenet
Sharkskin Belt
Defense: 85
Durability: 14 of 14
Required Strength: 20
Required Level: 45
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 76
Fingerprint: 0x62cefbb5
+50 Defense
10% Mana stolen per hit
+5 to Light Radius
40% Faster Run/Walk

Aldur's Advance
Battle Boots
Defense: 46
Required Strength: 95
Required Level: 45
Indestructible
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 76
Fingerprint: 0x235c69a6
+50 to Life
+180 to Maximum Stamina
Heal Stamina Plus 32%
40% Faster Run/Walk
10% Damage Taken Goes to Mana

Bul-Kathos' Tribal Guardian
Mythical Sword
One-Hand Damage: 39 to 156
Durability: 36 of 44
Required Dexterity: 40
Required Strength: 157
Required Level: 72
Sword Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x3f1a95cc
+20 to Strength
+200% Enhanced Damage
Fire Resist +50%
+49 poison damage over 2 seconds
20% Increased Attack Speed

Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 901
Durability: 55 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 76
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x75a16944
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
112% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%
Socketed (1: 1 used)

Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 888
Durability: 28 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 76
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x193b2822
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
88% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%

Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 857
Durability: 34 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 76
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x7086512a
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
88% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%

Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 913
Durability: 50 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 76
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 99
Fingerprint: 0x16bf4230
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
88% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%

One of those Tal's armors went to merc via Larzuk. At the moment I have a stable Shako rack in LK. I guess I'll be running that one until I have found couple of golden Shakos. As soon as I get the first Harlequin Crest I will replace the sorcs PTopaz armor with Tal's.

What bases are you guys using for your weapon crafts? I gambled a shadow bow to tro my luck on it. At first I was thinking about using rushee forge rewards from normal difficulty + runes from Qual-Kehk on a hydra bow, but now with the rune ilvl finding I think I'm not going to bother.

Also, is hell Andy with at least 556% MF the best way to get Saracen's?
 

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What bases are you guys using for your weapon crafts? I gambled a shadow bow to tro my luck on it. At first I was thinking about using rushee forge rewards from normal difficulty + runes from Qual-Kehk on a hydra bow, but now with the rune ilvl finding I think I'm not going to bother.

Also, is hell Andy with at least 556% MF the best way to get Saracen's?
Some bases that could be worth it:
  • GMB (Reward from Hell Anya, use Amazon rushees to get it)
  • Matriarchal Bow
  • Mythical Sword
  • Colossus Blade
  • Runic Talons
  • Some elite Polearm (1.09 Druid weapon maybe?)
I guess even the best ones will not be good enough in 1.10+ with Grief and other stuff available so you'll want to craft stuff you can use in 1.07-1.09.


Andariel with 556% MF has 1 in 483 chance at Saracen's which is the highest in 1.07.
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This is a strange one.. IIRC, usually the bugs I see on blood crafts are:
  1. Life leech consumes the +HP bonus and gets bonkers +20% LL
  2. Mana leech consumes the LL bonus and gets +10% mana leech
Not sure what went on here. It looks like +mana consumed the +HP bonus. Makes me wonder if a +20% mana leech bugged roll is possible.. :unsure:
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