1.07 Racking and Barb questions.

Beoron1

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Howdy,

First, what is the level of the racks in Hell LK? In the repuz guide repost the level for Hell LK is **. I am specifically wondering if you could rack a Grandfather there. Nil's temple is much more of a pain to run.

Second, I am thinking of making a barb and wondering how people feel about ww vs frenzy? I would think ww would be better vs big groups, but frenzy might not be bad either, and would likely do better vs bosses and the speed boost is nice obviously.

Thanks!
 
Yes, Grandfather drops in LK.

Depends what you want to do with the Barb. If you want to use the Barb for running Trav (and it is well worth doing) I would go WW. Act bosses are not worth running in 1.07, at least with a barb.

If you just want to quest, then it doesn't matter.
 
The area must be Ilvl+1 in order to rack the item. Here is all items >= 8.8:
You CAN get sacred armors from Upper Kurast (alvl 89) if you don't want to run Nihlathak's temple.

Edit: ANY base item or unique not listed in the table below is ilvl <=87 and CAN be dropped from Lower Kurast. Grandfather is lv 85 (CB is 85 as well).

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Item Levels

Armor: (only Sacred Armor is lv 8.8+ in 1.07)
Corona             (89) (1.08/1.09)
Dream Spirit       (89) (1.08/1.09)
Vortex Shield      (89) (1.08/1.09)
Colossus Girdle    (89) (1.08/1.09)
Sacred Armor       (8.8)

Weapons: (max is lv 76 in 1.07)
Archon Staff       (89) (1.08/1.09)
Giant Thresher     (89) (1.08/1.09)
War Pike           (89) (1.08/1.09)
Dimensional Shard  (89) (1.08/1.09)
Glorious Axe       (8.8) (1.08/1.09)
Mythical Sword     (8.8) (1.08/1.09)
Caduceus           (8.8) (1.08/1.09)
Legend Spike       (8.8) (1.08/1.09)

Uniques:
The Cranium Basher (91)

Area Levels
                                      Normal     Nightmare  Hell
(ACT I)
Rogue Encampment                        0          33        66
Blood Moor                              1          34        67
Cold Plains                             2          35        68
Stony Field                             4          37        70
Dark Wood                               5          38        71
Black Marsh                             6          39        72
Tamoe Highland                          8          41        74
Den of Evil                             1          34        67
Cave Level 1                            2          35        68
Underground Passage Level 1             4          37        70
Hole Level 1                            5          38        71
Pit Level 1                             7          40        73
Cave Level 2                            2          35        68
Underground Passage Level 2             4          37        70
Hole Level 2                            5          38        71
Pit Level 2                             7          40        73
Burial Grounds                          3          36        69
Crypt                                   3          36        69
Mausoleum                               3          36        69
Forgotten Tower                         7          40        73
Tower Cellar Level 1                    7          40        73
Tower Cellar Level 2                    7          40        73
Tower Cellar Level 3                    7          40        73
Tower Cellar Level 4                    7          40        73
Tower Cellar Level 5                    7          40        73
Monastery Gate                          8          41        74
Outer Cloister                          9          42        75
Barracks                                9          42        75
Jail Level 1                            10         43        76
Jail Level 2                            10         43        76
Jail Level 3                            10         43        76
Inner Cloister                          10         43        76
Cathedral                               11         44        77
Catacombs Level 1                       11         44        77
Catacombs Level 2                       11         44        77
Catacombs Level 3                       12         45        78
Catacombs Level 4                       12         45        78
Tristram                                6          39        72
Moo Moo Farm                            28         61        94

(ACT II)
Lut Gholein                             0          33        66
Rocky Waste                             14         47        80
Dry Hills                               15         48        81
Far Oasis                               16         49        82
Lost City                               17         50        83
Valley of Snakes                        18         51        84
Canyon of the Magi                      16         49        82
Sewers Level 1                          13         46        79
Sewers Level 2                          13         46        79
Sewers Level 3                          14         47        80
Harem Level 1                           0          33        66
Harem Level 2                           13         46        79
Palace Cellar Level 1                   13         46        79
Palace Cellar Level 2                   13         46        79
Palace Cellar Level 3                   13         46        79
Stony Tomb Level 1                      12         45        78
Halls of the Dead Level 1               12         45        78
Halls of the Dead Level 2               13         46        79
Claw Viper Temple Level 1               14         47        80
Stony Tomb Level 2                      12         45        78
Halls of the Dead Level 3               13         46        79
Claw Viper Temple Level 2               14         47        80
Maggot Lair Level 1                     17         50        83
Maggot Lair Level 2                     17         50        83
Maggot Lair Level 3                     17         50        83
Ancient Tunnels                         17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Tal Rasha's Tomb                        17         50        83
Duriel's Lair                           17         50        83
Arcane Sanctuary                        14         47        80

(ACT III)
Kurast Docktown                         0          33        66
Spider Forest                           21         54        87
Great Marsh                             21         54        87
Flayer Jungle                           22         55        8.8
Lower Kurast                            22         55        8.8
Kurast Bazaar                           22         55        8.8
Upper Kurast                            23         56        89
Kurast Causeway                         24         57        90
Travincal                               24         57        90
Spider Cave                             21         54        87
Spider Cavern                           21         54        87
Swampy Pit Level 1                      21         54        87
Swampy Pit Level 2                      21         54        87
Flayer Dungeon Level 1                  22         55        8.8
Flayer Dungeon Level 2                  22         55        8.8
Swampy Pit Level 3                      21         54        87
Flayer Dungeon Level 3                  22         55        8.8
Sewers Level 1                          23         56        89
Sewers Level 2                          24         57        90
Ruined Temple                           23         56        89
Disused Fane                            23         56        89
Forgotten Reliquary                     23         56        89
Forgotten Temple                        24         57        90
Ruined Fane                             24         57        90
Disused Reliquary                       24         57        90
Durance of Hate Level 1                 25         58        91
Durance of Hate Level 2                 25         58        91
Durance of Hate Level 3                 25         58        91

(ACT IV)
The Pandemonium Fortress                0          33        66
Outer Steppes                           26         59        92
Plains of Despair                       26         59        92
City of the Damned                      27         60        93
River of Flame                          27         60        93
Chaos Sanctum                           28         61        94

(ACT V)
Harrogath                               0          33        66
Bloody Foothills                        24         57        90
Rigid Highlands                         25         58        91
Arreat Plateau                          26         59        92
Crystalized Cavern Level 1              29         62        95
Cellar of Pity                          29         62        95
Crystalized Cavern Level 2              29         62        95
Echo Chamber                            29         62        95
Tundra Wastelands                       27         60        93
Glacial Caves Level 1                   29         62        95
Glacial Caves Level 2                   29         62        95
Rocky Summit                            27         60        93
Nihlathaks Temple                       32         65        98
Halls of Anguish                        33         66        99
Halls of Death's Calling                34         67        100
Halls of Vaught                         36         69        102
Hell1                                   39         72        105
Hell2                                   39         72        105
Hell3                                   39         72        105
The Worldstone Keep Level 1             39         72        105
The Worldstone Keep Level 2             40         73        106
The Worldstone Keep Level 3             42         75        108
Throne of Destruction                   43         76        109
The Worldstone Chamber                  0          0         0
 
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Veeery interesting! Thanks for the input all. One I have noticed is that in testing ww seems to not only stop but get stuck with cast on hit items, which is troublesome. I am thinking about trying to get and use Lightsabres or Baranar's (or maybe one of each) on a frenzy barb. I think that would be pretty effective if I could manage it. Baranar's has that nice vit mod and more damage, but Lightsabre is a lot faster and has lightning absorb, though the dex requirement is very unfortunate. Nicely, both are indestructible. Dual gf's with Arkaine's frenzy would put up some crazy life numbers if you could find it all. I think the GF life mod would work on the Valor's vit. Finding a BK cb would be nice too since it has crushing blow.
 
@GalaXyHaXz, where did you get the list? The Area lvls you list match up with my findings, but the items don't match up with the lists given by RTB and others long ago regarding item qlvls (I assume you mean qlvl rather than ilvl here...)

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Item Levels

Armor:
Corona             (89)   81
Dream Spirit       (89)   67
Vortex Shield      (89)   67
Colossus Girdle    (89)   81
Sacred Armor       (8.8)  8.8

Weapons:
Archon Staff       (89)   70
Giant Thresher     (89)   76
War Pike           (89)   70
Dimensional Shard  (89)   67
Glorious Axe       (8.8)  73
Mythical Sword     (8.8)  72
Caduceus           (8.8)  69
Legend Spike       (8.8)  70

Uniques:
The Cranium Basher (91)
The numbers in parenthesis' are GalaXyHaXz's, those after are from my notes... and I've racked Giant Threshers, War Pikes, Mythical Swords, and Caducii in LK...Coronas and Colossus Girdles too...

I know for sure that Elite Weapons in 1.07 are lower in qlvl than 1.08+...maybe your list is for 1.08 or 1.09?

WoRG
 
@WoRG Indeed it is for 1.08/1.09. I thought the level was the same in 1.07 but that wasn't the case. Levels are much lower, I've updated the previous post. Your list is correct. Only a Sacred Armor is higher than ilvl 87 in 1.07. So you can rack anything in Upper Kurast except CB.

I suppose blizzard changed it with the Introduction of "TC90" and all the fixed TCs.
 
Follow up question, does frenzy attack speed work the same as in other patches? I thought there was something weird about it, but I may be remembering something I read about ww. Wondering how much having a slower off hand would hurt.
 
I know that it was in 1.08 they introduced weapon speed averaging when dual-weilding, so it would definitely be different in 1.07... Not sure if it would be better/worse, but you could try it and see how it feels...

In 1.07, WW only hits with the primary weapon, though many mods from the offhand weapon do carry over...

WoRG
 
I wonder if the offhand crushing blow carries over on ww. Probably not, but if it did coldsteel cutlass would be pretty fierce off-hand. Hmmm I am still theorycrafting and wondering about hats. If valk wing's move speed and ias would be better than the CB on Guillaumes. I imagine Mav's belt and Goblin Toe would both be ideal for a frenzier in 1.07.
 
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