Tokerdin are you re-speccing to WW? You didn't make that clear in your post. Why don't you run with a merc? He will really help you to kill the Council. Grief in your off-hand I think. Is that a Frenzy thing? Guess it doen't matter much for Frenzy tho I'm no expert. Also you haven't completed the Council quest. I think it helps to finish Act 3 and use act 4 to start and finish runs. I TP to Kurast WP and back to Act 4 after each run. If you get Enigma the FRW will get you through the docks faster tho. Could you post readouts of gear.
2017 Winter RFL Signup and Running Thread: 2nd Round
- Thread starter Grape1
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Decided to give my goldfind sorc a test drive. 2021% goldfind now, 15% less damage (4600 now). I'm not 100% sure this is best solution, but I will make sure to test her more. Initial test was fail because window mode + picking gold = too hard. Took me some time to get used to it a bit. And bingo. 23386142 gold farmed, but on 15 min mark it was already over 12 million which would mean over 24 million after 30 minutes. Failed to deliver in the second half. But... only 400k below record, that is only 1 run difference! I bet I would have got record on full screen...
Anyway. It will be hardish to stay below 30 second runtimes, around 28-29 at best. So, I'm not exactly force in this second round, but goldfind record might fall. Mine at least. Fabian's still seem lightyears away. I wonder what my goldfind sorc average really is. I assume it is slightly below 23 million, but it will be revealed in tests during running. And I hope I'll get used to window mode to be less annoyed by picking gold up.
Anyway. It will be hardish to stay below 30 second runtimes, around 28-29 at best. So, I'm not exactly force in this second round, but goldfind record might fall. Mine at least. Fabian's still seem lightyears away. I wonder what my goldfind sorc average really is. I assume it is slightly below 23 million, but it will be revealed in tests during running. And I hope I'll get used to window mode to be less annoyed by picking gold up.
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Hm. Instead of 1.07 maybe I will level a sorc to 80ish in 1.13? How long does it take to find a decent map, and exactly how much can I stack safety? I have a beta CtA I can use as well..
Map is like hour or two of rolling. Safety can be stacked, but I would not recommend sorc for HC at all. No matter how safe she is, risk of death is just too big on a long run. So many things can go wrong, even though it is not easy to mess up her routine. 4k life barb is much safer and similarly efficient solution.
Later I can look for safer sorc solution for HC. It will include 1.07 Ark + shiver armor and nearly perfect map + not teleporting into them by accident. But you know, if you die, you lose: 1.07 ark, beta cta, Infinity...
Played around with teleport pathing, and if I teleport down to the sacraficial altar in the center a little past midline, then make a 90 degree turn straight to the council I get everyone except Torc Icefist to spawn in a fairly nice pack in the Orb smashing room. Torc is just chilling out on the porch by himself, I'm assuming on a smoke break. This actually works out pretty well as my merc can be really slow killing him, so I think he's more efficient just to skip.
Also got a CTA from @DiabloTwoinDC (Thanks!) and the runs are way more comfortable. Swapped merc over to Forti and Steel Shade as recommended and he's doing a lot better along with the BO. I don't see much difference as far as Insight vs. Reaper's for his kill speed or survivability, so I think I will keep the Insight for now as it is very helpful against mana burn packs.
Now I just need to get my run times down below two minutes and make my life less busy.
Also got a CTA from @DiabloTwoinDC (Thanks!) and the runs are way more comfortable. Swapped merc over to Forti and Steel Shade as recommended and he's doing a lot better along with the BO. I don't see much difference as far as Insight vs. Reaper's for his kill speed or survivability, so I think I will keep the Insight for now as it is very helpful against mana burn packs.
Now I just need to get my run times down below two minutes and make my life less busy.
Im just seriously considering it because it seems like i should be able to kill groups faster. As for the merc, I cant keep my merc alive. i even tried switching to an act 1 merc with wrath. Theory being she would keep some distance but that didnt work. So now im working on leveling him up and then ill just rehire a merc to get higher res and life. i didnt know it mattered which hand you put things in although i did notice berserk hits with the other sword. If i do switch to enigma i will need to finish act 3 and save and exit in act 4 every run as i do with LK.
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Name: Snickers
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Level: 77
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Cold: 148/108/48
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Iron Skin: 1/5
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Order Circle
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Raven Frost
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Cannot Be Frozen
Brimstone Brogues
Demonhide Boots
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Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0x19590b55
Item Level: 59
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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String of Ears
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Required Strength: 20
Fingerprint: 0x57a95735
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Shimmering Grand Charm of Greed
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Fingerprint: 0x6abbfd7a
Item Level: 88
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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38% Extra Gold from Monsters
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Small Charm
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Fingerprint: 0xbb7a744e
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15 to Life
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Iron Small Charm of Dexterity
Small Charm
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Fingerprint: 0xc455c8a8
Item Level: 70
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+23 to Attack Rating
+1 to Dexterity
Fine Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 21
Fingerprint: 0xa9073648
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Maximum Damage
+12 to Attack Rating
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Shimmering Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 34
Fingerprint: 0x11025c19
Item Level: 61
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+24 to Life
All Resistances +8
Sharp Large Charm
Large Charm
Required Level: 21
Fingerprint: 0x368f0b81
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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+48 to Attack Rating
Tome of Town Portal
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
Laying of Hands
Bramble Mitts
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Durability: 10 of 12
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x53193e3b
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
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+350% Damage to Demons
+25 Defense
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Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Sharp Grand Charm of Inertia
Grand Charm
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Fingerprint: 0xf6e53d6b
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+7% Faster Run/Walk
+9 to Maximum Damage
+65 to Attack Rating
Gheed's Fortune
Grand Charm
Required Level: 62
Fingerprint: 0x353d2058
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
136% Extra Gold from Monsters
Reduces all Vendor Prices 13%
28% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Horadric Cube
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Item Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Fortitude
Superior Wire Fleece
ElSolDolLo
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Durability: 28 of 35
Required Level: 59
Required Strength: 111
Fingerprint: 0x7dd2b100
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
20% Chance to cast level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
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300% Enhanced Damage
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+15 Defense
+86 to Life (Based on Character Level)
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Socketed: Sol Rune
Socketed: Dol Rune
Socketed: Lo Rune
El Rune
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Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +50 to Attack Rating
+1 to Light Radius
Armor: +15 Defense
+1 to Light Radius
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Sol Rune
Required Level: 27
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Dol Rune
Required Level: 31
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Hit Causes Monster to Flee 25%
Armor: Replenish Life +7
Shields: Replenish Life +7
Lo Rune
Required Level: 59
Version: Expansion 1.10+
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Shields: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Arreat's Face
Slayer Guard
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Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 118
Fingerprint: 0x7199bc21
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1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Um Rune
Um Rune
Required Level: 47
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 25% Chance of Open Wounds
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Lightning Resist +15%
Fire Resist +15%
Poison Resist +15%
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Fire Resist +22%
Poison Resist +22%
Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 17
Fingerprint: 0xb34eb860
Item Level: 58
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15 to Life
Jade Small Charm of Balance
Small Charm
Required Level: 29
Fingerprint: 0xd9399a62
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+5% Faster Hit Recovery
Poison Resist +9%
Ocher Small Charm of Strength
Small Charm
Required Level: 16
Fingerprint: 0x806e9d28
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Strength
Lightning Resist +6%
Azure Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 17
Fingerprint: 0x5901f58d
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+11 to Life
Cold Resist +4%
Garnet Small Charm of Dexterity
Small Charm
Required Level: 20
Fingerprint: 0x41e272ba
Item Level: 46
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Dexterity
Fire Resist +8%
Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%
Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%
Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Healing Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenish Life +320
Super Mana Potion
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Replenishes Mana 250%
Shimmering Small Charm of the Glacier
Small Charm
Required Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0xd0a566e2
Item Level: 61
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Adds 3 - 6 Cold Damage Over 1 Secs (25 Frames)
All Resistances +4
Plague Scythe
Champion Sword
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Two Hand Damage: 249 - 299
Durability: 38 of 40
Required Level: 69
Required Strength: 163
Required Dexterity: 103
Fingerprint: 0x39bb8d2e
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20% Increased Attack Speed
252% Enhanced Damage
+7 to Maximum Damage
+67 to Attack Rating
+195% Damage to Demons
+294 to Attack Rating against Demons
+2 to Strength
Repairs 1 Durability in 33 Seconds
Required Level +12
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Shael Rune
Shael Rune
Required Level: 29
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +20% Increased Attack Speed
Armor: +20% Faster Hit Recovery
Shields: +20% Faster Block Rate
Grief
Phase Blade
EthTirLoMalRal
One Hand Damage: 31 - 35
Indestructible
Required Level: 59
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 136
Fingerprint: 0xf5a92b8d
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
35% Chance to cast level 15 Venom on striking
+38% Increased Attack Speed
Damage +388
Ignore Target's Defense
-25% Target Defense
+144% Damage to Demons (Based on Character Level)
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
-22% to Enemy Poison Resistance
20% Deadly Strike
Prevent Monster Heal
+2 to Mana after each Kill
+13 Life after each Kill
5 Sockets (5 used)
Socketed: Eth Rune
Socketed: Tir Rune
Socketed: Lo Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Socketed: Ral Rune
Eth Rune
Required Level: 15
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: -25% Target Defense
Armor: Regenerate Mana 15%
Shields: Regenerate Mana 15%
Tir Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Armor: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Shields: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Lo Rune
Required Level: 59
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Deadly Strike
Armor: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Shields: +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
Mal Rune
Required Level: 49
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Prevent Monster Heal
Armor: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%
Echoing Crystal Sword
Crystal Sword
One Hand Damage: 5 - 15
Durability: 20 of 20
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 43
Fingerprint: 0xee65d1df
Item Level: 91
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
Spirit
Broad Sword
TalThulOrtAmn
One Hand Damage: 7 - 14
Durability: 32 of 32
Required Level: 25
Required Strength: 48
Fingerprint: 0x9d3ff5f7
Item Level: 50
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+34% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
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Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
7% Life stolen per hit
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+103 to Mana
+8 Magic Absorb
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune
Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%
Thul Rune
Required Level: 23
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Armor: Cold Resist +30%
Shields: Cold Resist +35%
Ort Rune
Required Level: 21
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
Shields: Lightning Resist +35%
Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Mercenary:
Name: Ithera
Race: Rogue Scout
Type: Ice - Hell
Experience: 44246520
Level: 70
Dead?: false
Naked/Gear
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Dexterity: 169/169
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Duriel's Shell
Cuirass
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Durability: 49 of 150
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 65
Fingerprint: 0xd5c347bb
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+179% Enhanced Defense
+96 Defense (Based on Character Level)
+15 to Strength
+77 to Life (Based on Character Level)
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All Resistances +20
Cannot Be Frozen
+100 Maximum Durability
Steel Shade
Armet
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Durability: 24 of 24
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 109
Fingerprint: 0xd439449f
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
8% Mana stolen per hit
+130% Enhanced Defense
Replenish Life +16
Fire Resist +30%
+10 Fire Absorb
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Ral Rune
Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%
Wrath
Great Bow
PulLumBerMal
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Durability: 26 of 36
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 121
Required Dexterity: 107
Fingerprint: 0x6608f9aa
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
30% Chance to cast level 1 Decrepify on striking
5% Chance to cast level 10 Life Tap on striking
+375% Damage to Demons
+100 to Attack Rating against Demons
+286% Damage to Undead
Adds 85 - 120 Magic Damage
Adds 41 - 240 Lightning Damage
20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 to Energy
Cannot Be Frozen
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Pul Rune
Socketed: Lum Rune
Socketed: Ber Rune
Socketed: Mal Rune
Pul Rune
Required Level: 45
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +75% Damage to Demons
+100 to Attack Rating against Demons
Armor: +30% Enhanced Defense
Shields: +30% Enhanced Defense
Lum Rune
Required Level: 37
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +10 to Energy
Armor: +10 to Energy
Shields: +10 to Energy
Ber Rune
Required Level: 63
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Armor: Damage Reduced by 8%
Shields: Damage Reduced by 8%
Mal Rune
Required Level: 49
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Prevent Monster Heal
Armor: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Magic Damage Reduced by 7
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Thanks for that! I think my goal is to get 2000+ Travi runs, which equals to less than 36sec per run. I think that's a feasible goal, although I've done only that one hour test set, where I was practically exactly 30sec per run, I hope that in the long run, I won't slow down that much. So 2000 runs would be 2/3 of your above rune set, I could theoretically expect maybe 3 Vex+ runes. Sounds very good to me, but still, anything can happen in 2k runs, I could end up with one Vex and that's it.
So I think I'll change my goals for Round 2 as following:
2000+ runs,
7 Qualifiers
2 Vex+ runes
Arcanna's Amulet
I am not sure if I have time to do more than one set, possibly, but I think I'll stick with one set this time, unless the first set doesn't work out like in Round 1.
@tokerdin This here is an excellent guide about WW Barbarians in Travincal, and it should answer most of your questions. I can add few suggestions:
1. You should really learn to use Hotkeys. Most players map the skill keys to QWER/ASDF/ZXCV etc. for easier skill selection. You can of course continue to use F1-F12, but even then, you should always use the keyboard for skill selection, never the mouse.
2. With Barb, you should use the hurtier weapon as primary one, that is, the one above gloves. If you cannot afford another Grief, consider making Oath runeword, it will be a considerable upgrade to the rare. Try and look for 4 socket ethereal Balrog Blade or Colossus Sword for base.
3. Level up. Play the game at least until you've rescued Anya, then do Pindleruns on /players8 until you're at least level 85+, shouldn't take too long. With lower levels, you have trouble hitting the Council and your merc doesn't stand a chance.
4. Use mercenary. Act 2 Nightmare Offensive merc (the one with Might aura) is really the only option you should be looking at. Arm him with Reaper's Toll for the Decrepify. Guardian Angel is a good armor for him, so is Gladiator's Bane, Fortitude works also. For headgear, Kira's Guardian and Steel Shade work the best imo. Socket the merc's gear with things that give fire resists and IAS.
5. If you can make Enigma, make Enigma and use it. It will pay itself back in no time.
6. Ditch the Ravenfrost. You don't really need CBF for WW Barb, and the cold damage will shatter corpses, meaning you cannot hork them. Look for rare/craft with ll/fcr/ar/res instead.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Rolling maps with Sorceress and it's as tedious as I imagined. It probably doesn't hepl, that I'm picky and don't accept any maps where I can't teleport under the "magical line". Things would go faster if I didn't feel the urge to kill the Council so often. But how can I not when they keep rewarding me so handsomely:
Also found Mal, and Pul with the Barb earlier. God I hope it will be this steady going when the real action starts (it never is).
1. You should really learn to use Hotkeys. Most players map the skill keys to QWER/ASDF/ZXCV etc. for easier skill selection. You can of course continue to use F1-F12, but even then, you should always use the keyboard for skill selection, never the mouse.
2. With Barb, you should use the hurtier weapon as primary one, that is, the one above gloves. If you cannot afford another Grief, consider making Oath runeword, it will be a considerable upgrade to the rare. Try and look for 4 socket ethereal Balrog Blade or Colossus Sword for base.
3. Level up. Play the game at least until you've rescued Anya, then do Pindleruns on /players8 until you're at least level 85+, shouldn't take too long. With lower levels, you have trouble hitting the Council and your merc doesn't stand a chance.
4. Use mercenary. Act 2 Nightmare Offensive merc (the one with Might aura) is really the only option you should be looking at. Arm him with Reaper's Toll for the Decrepify. Guardian Angel is a good armor for him, so is Gladiator's Bane, Fortitude works also. For headgear, Kira's Guardian and Steel Shade work the best imo. Socket the merc's gear with things that give fire resists and IAS.
5. If you can make Enigma, make Enigma and use it. It will pay itself back in no time.
6. Ditch the Ravenfrost. You don't really need CBF for WW Barb, and the cold damage will shatter corpses, meaning you cannot hork them. Look for rare/craft with ll/fcr/ar/res instead.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Rolling maps with Sorceress and it's as tedious as I imagined. It probably doesn't hepl, that I'm picky and don't accept any maps where I can't teleport under the "magical line". Things would go faster if I didn't feel the urge to kill the Council so often. But how can I not when they keep rewarding me so handsomely:
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The Stone of Jordan
Ring
Required Level: 29
Fingerprint: 0xc69e3710
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Unidentified
+1 to All Skills
Adds 1 - 12 Lightning Damage
+20 to Mana
Increase Maximum Mana 25%Hey everyone,
The Travi hype is real, but I realise I'm running into a few issues that I'd love some help from those who are more seasoned.
1) Which Character to use?
A) Lvl 91 Blizzard Sorc w/ decent but not "Gold Standard" kinda gear (4/4 facet shako, HotO, Lidless wall/Stormshield/Spirit, 14% CD Ormus'/Up'd vipermagi, Tals belt, War Travs/Waterwalks, Chancies/magefist) and a handful of cold skillers etc.
Merc: Holy Freeze merc w/ Vamp Gaze, Trechery/Leviathan/Glad's Bane, NON eth Reaper's Toll.
NO nightwing's, Ladder Runewords (spirit, Insight, Infinity), CTA.
B) Make a new character. I considered a Trav WW barb but since I play Mac 1.14 (AND lack the runes), Grief would be a pipe dream. Also enigma-less.
Any suggestions for someone who has %70 of the grail, no RWM and no really really cheesy items?
2) My issue with playing my Blizzard Sorc is this:
A) I'm not clear what a "good" Travi map entails. If someone could make/ point me towards a vid on YouTube or something, that would be stellar.
B) My LK map is perfect. And I mean perfect. 2 campfires within a couple of clicks of the WP. and I don't want to ditch it.
How easy would it be to reroll a good (read: perfect or GTFO) LK map? I just restarted and need HR abundance more than RFL fame.
All help appreciated!
Thanks!
The Travi hype is real, but I realise I'm running into a few issues that I'd love some help from those who are more seasoned.
1) Which Character to use?
A) Lvl 91 Blizzard Sorc w/ decent but not "Gold Standard" kinda gear (4/4 facet shako, HotO, Lidless wall/Stormshield/Spirit, 14% CD Ormus'/Up'd vipermagi, Tals belt, War Travs/Waterwalks, Chancies/magefist) and a handful of cold skillers etc.
Merc: Holy Freeze merc w/ Vamp Gaze, Trechery/Leviathan/Glad's Bane, NON eth Reaper's Toll.
NO nightwing's, Ladder Runewords (spirit, Insight, Infinity), CTA.
B) Make a new character. I considered a Trav WW barb but since I play Mac 1.14 (AND lack the runes), Grief would be a pipe dream. Also enigma-less.
Any suggestions for someone who has %70 of the grail, no RWM and no really really cheesy items?
2) My issue with playing my Blizzard Sorc is this:
A) I'm not clear what a "good" Travi map entails. If someone could make/ point me towards a vid on YouTube or something, that would be stellar.
B) My LK map is perfect. And I mean perfect. 2 campfires within a couple of clicks of the WP. and I don't want to ditch it.
How easy would it be to reroll a good (read: perfect or GTFO) LK map? I just restarted and need HR abundance more than RFL fame.
All help appreciated!
Thanks!
Here is mathematical expectation on qualifier number and such. Everyone can calculate their expected number of certain qualifiers given their average runtime (p3 only, not p1!). Expected average presented here is for 30 sec runtimes over 20 hours assuming player kills every council member all the time.
Expected number of qualifiers in presented range for 30s p3 Travincal running over 20 hours:
Pul-Cham: 12.76
Vex-Cham: 4.19
Ber-Cham: 1.24
Also, it is cool to divide it like this:
Pul-Gul: 8.57
Vex-Sur: 2.95
Ber-Cham: 1.24
To know your expected number of qualifiers in any of presented ranges (Pul-Cham is total number of qualifiers for example etc...), just divide 30 with your average runtimes (in seconds) and then multiply with presented numbers. If you are barb with either 55% or 56% item find, then you should do additional math to calculate:
If 55% item find, then divide 30 with your average runtime and further by 1.6, then multiply with presented numbers.
If 56% tem find, then divide 30 with your average runtime and further by 1.611, then multiply with presented numbers.
But, if you want to know your expected score when only top 5 is selected, that is a bit more work to do and I won't present it here for now. It complicates things a lot. Let's just say that all of us are very close to each other in that. 22s sorc in comparison to 30s hammerdin has~ 10 points higher expected score, and that is rather small difference. My point is, there are no favorites here now, it all depends on luck. Well, unless it takes you huge amount of time to clear Travincal, then normally it is quite high chance faster players will beat you comfortably.
Expected number of qualifiers in presented range for 30s p3 Travincal running over 20 hours:
Pul-Cham: 12.76
Vex-Cham: 4.19
Ber-Cham: 1.24
Also, it is cool to divide it like this:
Pul-Gul: 8.57
Vex-Sur: 2.95
Ber-Cham: 1.24
To know your expected number of qualifiers in any of presented ranges (Pul-Cham is total number of qualifiers for example etc...), just divide 30 with your average runtimes (in seconds) and then multiply with presented numbers. If you are barb with either 55% or 56% item find, then you should do additional math to calculate:
If 55% item find, then divide 30 with your average runtime and further by 1.6, then multiply with presented numbers.
If 56% tem find, then divide 30 with your average runtime and further by 1.611, then multiply with presented numbers.
But, if you want to know your expected score when only top 5 is selected, that is a bit more work to do and I won't present it here for now. It complicates things a lot. Let's just say that all of us are very close to each other in that. 22s sorc in comparison to 30s hammerdin has~ 10 points higher expected score, and that is rather small difference. My point is, there are no favorites here now, it all depends on luck. Well, unless it takes you huge amount of time to clear Travincal, then normally it is quite high chance faster players will beat you comfortably.
@Lynchgrinch
If no CTA, then pretty much no sorc. Barb is your only viable option with Oath axes or something. Or... you can try sorc and be in fear of death all the time. It won't be comfortable to play at all.
If no CTA, then pretty much no sorc. Barb is your only viable option with Oath axes or something. Or... you can try sorc and be in fear of death all the time. It won't be comfortable to play at all.
Honestly, if you ask me, that is the only viable way to roll a proper Travincal map. I know some players are used to go to the north first then nail Travincal, but as I explained, that is strictly inferior running method, so why waste time on that... Once you check your map with south approach, you should s/e then again retry the north approach... it is easier and more efficient to simply s/e, change difficulty and try again south path on new map and not to bother with ANY other path.
Urge to kill minions is... well. I understand ^^ When I roll Travincal maps, I don't kill anything, simply get there, s/e immediately checking map in the process and reroll if needed. That way you could roll 4 maps per minute easily and it will go much faster at seeking that keepable map. Seeking sorc map needs all the rolling speed you can achieve. It takes slightly below 1 hour with 4 rolls/minute to roll very decent map. I rolled like 6-7 of those for various characters. Always taking south approach ofc. As for perfect map... well, yeah. Don't know. Rolled total of 3 maps I'd consider nearly perfect for sorc (all minions in corner).
Heh... yeah. No RWM is serious drawback to having fun in d2, agreed. 
I must joke a bit, but yes, it does pose some big limitations for some characters, sorc included (no Infinity). Though she can work without easily, just not be as fast for tournament environment. Same thing with barb. I guess Beast is your best bet for it if you care to repair it...
I must joke a bit, but yes, it does pose some big limitations for some characters, sorc included (no Infinity). Though she can work without easily, just not be as fast for tournament environment. Same thing with barb. I guess Beast is your best bet for it if you care to repair it...
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@Lynchgrinch I'd hit LK hard now. On /p7, I think you have 5 different Ohm patterns, so if you have a perfect map as you say, you might get lucky before Friday. Also, don't be afraid to cube Guls/Vexes to Ohm at this point, since CtA is quite possibly one of the most OP Runewords you can make, even +1BO will help a lot.
Here are betting odds for outright winner of RFL
I took into consideration all the talk throughout themes, also some cow comparisons and as well as first round results to came to this. Normally it is purely fun concept, but with a touch of reality to some degree. Also I won't miss a chance to troll a bit ofc.
Lets bet on pgems! Hype.
Other
I took into consideration all the talk throughout themes, also some cow comparisons and as well as first round results to came to this. Normally it is purely fun concept, but with a touch of reality to some degree. Also I won't miss a chance to troll a bit ofc.
Lets bet on pgems! Hype.
Grape 2.20
NanoMist 4.00
Pb_pal 5.00
Neksja 6.50
Gripphon 7.00
Xios 10.00
tokerdin 10.00
Brak 15.00
Burgomaster 15.00
ILikeRocks 15.00
Everyone else 20+
To have winner from Grape-NanoMist-Pb_pal triangle: 1.49 (aka 67% chance or 2/3)
NanoMist 4.00
Pb_pal 5.00
Neksja 6.50
Gripphon 7.00
Xios 10.00
tokerdin 10.00
Brak 15.00
Burgomaster 15.00
ILikeRocks 15.00
Everyone else 20+
To have winner from Grape-NanoMist-Pb_pal triangle: 1.49 (aka 67% chance or 2/3)
Other
3+ Chams are found: 1.80
One participant to find 2+ Chams: 15.00
Top score is 100+: 4.00
Grip to beat his goldfind record: 1.25
Goku's power level: over 9000
Someone to find Zod: 1000000
One participant to find 2+ Chams: 15.00
Top score is 100+: 4.00
Grip to beat his goldfind record: 1.25
Goku's power level: over 9000
Someone to find Zod: 1000000
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@Lynchgrinch Re-rolling a perfect LK map doesn't sound like a good idea, especially if you need runes for CtA and Enigma. I would make a new character if you can, there's plenty of time left after all. I'd say, if you find Ohm and make CtA, go with the Sorc. If not, consider the Barbarian.
With non-optimal gear, I think Barbarian might actually be more comfortable to run, but also slower. Weapon selection is obviously the biggest challenge. Since you don't have Enigma yet, Beast is probably out of the question. And BotD. So Death Cleaver? That could work, if you have it (or two). Runemaster might be OK, especially if you have one with 5 sockets. Upped Ribcracker is good. Lightsabre is a thing. I'm just throwing things out there, because even though the aforementioned weapons are not the most efficient ones in the game, they are all able to kill the Council. You won't be able to compete with Griefs and Oaths, but that's not a reason to forfeit.
Heck, even Immortal King Barb is an option. Sure, the cold damage shatters corpses here and there and the damage isn't great, but it's tanky as hell. I found lots of runes with IK Barb running Travincal, back when I didn't have Enigma (or a clue), including my first Jah. It's about luck after all, in the end.
Man, I really hope someone figures this RWM thing out for Macs, it ain't easy playing Vanilla.
@Gripphon I actually managed to roll a map I'd call decent. It's in fact pretty similar as my previous map was. I can reach all but one Council member with one blizzard, which is a bummer because I need to do a bit of extra work if I wanna be fast. Actually, I can demonstrate with a picture:
That's a bit sloppy action picture but it gives you rough estimate where they stand. Obviously, I'd want them to be more in the back, but they are in a nice pack and don't move much, especially if I teleport sharply.
I tested some runtimes, and 50 run average was 24.901s. OK'ish, but not something I'm content with. Fastest run was 20.016s, but time like that kinda requires that the one Council Member has the courtesy to walk under my blizzard. I could probably get sub 24s as I go along. Now I just have to decide if I'm happy with this or do I continue to look for even better one. There's still plenty of time after all.
(and obviously picking up all the Vex runes and Amethysts slows me down, but I guess that's just something I have to live with.)
With non-optimal gear, I think Barbarian might actually be more comfortable to run, but also slower. Weapon selection is obviously the biggest challenge. Since you don't have Enigma yet, Beast is probably out of the question. And BotD. So Death Cleaver? That could work, if you have it (or two). Runemaster might be OK, especially if you have one with 5 sockets. Upped Ribcracker is good. Lightsabre is a thing. I'm just throwing things out there, because even though the aforementioned weapons are not the most efficient ones in the game, they are all able to kill the Council. You won't be able to compete with Griefs and Oaths, but that's not a reason to forfeit.
Heck, even Immortal King Barb is an option. Sure, the cold damage shatters corpses here and there and the damage isn't great, but it's tanky as hell. I found lots of runes with IK Barb running Travincal, back when I didn't have Enigma (or a clue), including my first Jah. It's about luck after all, in the end.
Man, I really hope someone figures this RWM thing out for Macs, it ain't easy playing Vanilla.
@Gripphon I actually managed to roll a map I'd call decent. It's in fact pretty similar as my previous map was. I can reach all but one Council member with one blizzard, which is a bummer because I need to do a bit of extra work if I wanna be fast. Actually, I can demonstrate with a picture:
I tested some runtimes, and 50 run average was 24.901s. OK'ish, but not something I'm content with. Fastest run was 20.016s, but time like that kinda requires that the one Council Member has the courtesy to walk under my blizzard. I could probably get sub 24s as I go along. Now I just have to decide if I'm happy with this or do I continue to look for even better one. There's still plenty of time after all.
(and obviously picking up all the Vex runes and Amethysts slows me down, but I guess that's just something I have to live with.)
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