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Indeed Drystan and Loz it doesn't make the problem you have go away or any easier but atleast it does put things in perspective.
I'm still bummed and feel terrible about the problems me and my wife are facing.
Though knowing we have it better then a whole lot of people and that we can be bummed out by something that is actually a non problem (cause they face far worse things then just not beeing able to get pregnant) for so many people does help me cope a little.
Nix states: If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
There is a whole difference between comparing yourself to people and realizing there are people who have it harder then you.Some people and their first world problems that keep *****ing and moaning about those problems should really go and live with lets say a normal mexican family, that might make them realise they don't have it that bad.My sisters husband is a mexican and we went there for a month and lived with them, that really oppened my eyes.
We turn open our faucet and clean drinkable water comes out, forget that when your in mexico, 3 days in the week they turn on the water and you have to fill huge bins of water to get trough the next few days, that water isn't drinkable its for showering and washing and you need to buy drinkable water in huge water containers.
Any time any day we flip a swith and have light, in mexico electricity comes and goes.I could go on for a while.
It irks me to no end that some people really don't realise how good they've got it and ***** and moan about stupid stuff like a tv show beeing canceled, a game that isn't what they want it to be, the cheese they wanted form the store is sold out, they have to wear glasses and so many stupid little things people moan and ***** about.
First world problems are a pain and not fun at all and they can be a real downer and mess up your life considerably (not the stupid little things mentioned above but the deeper stuff) but compared to some other problems they are rather trivial.
I might have explained it all wrong though, all I wanted to say was look for some perspective try and put your problems in a different light it will still hurt and be a terrible thing you go trough but it might make it easier to know that you will get trough it and that its "only" a first world problem.
I'm still bummed and feel terrible about the problems me and my wife are facing.
Though knowing we have it better then a whole lot of people and that we can be bummed out by something that is actually a non problem (cause they face far worse things then just not beeing able to get pregnant) for so many people does help me cope a little.
Nix states: If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
There is a whole difference between comparing yourself to people and realizing there are people who have it harder then you.Some people and their first world problems that keep *****ing and moaning about those problems should really go and live with lets say a normal mexican family, that might make them realise they don't have it that bad.My sisters husband is a mexican and we went there for a month and lived with them, that really oppened my eyes.
We turn open our faucet and clean drinkable water comes out, forget that when your in mexico, 3 days in the week they turn on the water and you have to fill huge bins of water to get trough the next few days, that water isn't drinkable its for showering and washing and you need to buy drinkable water in huge water containers.
Any time any day we flip a swith and have light, in mexico electricity comes and goes.I could go on for a while.
It irks me to no end that some people really don't realise how good they've got it and ***** and moan about stupid stuff like a tv show beeing canceled, a game that isn't what they want it to be, the cheese they wanted form the store is sold out, they have to wear glasses and so many stupid little things people moan and ***** about.
First world problems are a pain and not fun at all and they can be a real downer and mess up your life considerably (not the stupid little things mentioned above but the deeper stuff) but compared to some other problems they are rather trivial.
I might have explained it all wrong though, all I wanted to say was look for some perspective try and put your problems in a different light it will still hurt and be a terrible thing you go trough but it might make it easier to know that you will get trough it and that its "only" a first world problem.
LozHinge the Unhinged
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The problems that others have are in no way the same as the problems you yourself face. The effects are different (or should be), the way you deal with the two situations are different (or should be) and the impact they have on you are different (or should be).
I am not saying there should be no empathy, just that the empathy you experience doesn't necessarily solve your own problems.
That said, if someone wants to feel better about their situation by means of feeling worse about someone else's problems, who am I to tell them what to do? After all, that's not my problem
I am not saying there should be no empathy, just that the empathy you experience doesn't necessarily solve your own problems.
That said, if someone wants to feel better about their situation by means of feeling worse about someone else's problems, who am I to tell them what to do? After all, that's not my problem
LozHinge the Unhinged
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If being caught in traffic is the worst thing you've ever experienced ... then it's simply the worst! It's non-trivial to you :yes:
To you it might not be trivial.
Compared to other problems, yes it is trivial.
As I specified before compared to other problems, some first world problems are rather trivial, to the person having those problems they won't be trivial.
Lets turn it around: How would you look swearing and screaming at traffic cause you are stuck and can't get home in time,
to a person who has no home, no country to go back to, family all dead cause of the war his country is in, doesn't know when and where his next meal will be, ... ?
I don't feel better cause I know someone somewhere has it harder then me, I still feel the same pain and frustration.
Its just gives me perspective.
As long as I have a Family, friends, a home, food and such I can face my problems, if people that have it much harder and worse then me can pull trough and face the day, so can I.
Compared to other problems, yes it is trivial.
As I specified before compared to other problems, some first world problems are rather trivial, to the person having those problems they won't be trivial.
Lets turn it around: How would you look swearing and screaming at traffic cause you are stuck and can't get home in time,
to a person who has no home, no country to go back to, family all dead cause of the war his country is in, doesn't know when and where his next meal will be, ... ?
I don't feel better cause I know someone somewhere has it harder then me, I still feel the same pain and frustration.
Its just gives me perspective.
As long as I have a Family, friends, a home, food and such I can face my problems, if people that have it much harder and worse then me can pull trough and face the day, so can I.
That statement holds up for most people, but there are 2 exceptions. The greatest (me ofc
) and least person. So now you guys got this out of your systems, can we be a bit more positive here? We need to get a positive vibe going here. Maybe Bambi has a drink that provides that?
Kamap, the problems you and your wife are facing are not trivial and neither are the problems I am facing. They are simply in a different category from the problems of survival. Look at Hollywood types, at Philip Seymour Hoffman (who died) and Heath Ledger (died) and Jonathan Rhys Meyers (almost dead from alcohol) and Britney Murphy (dead) and Lindsay Lohan (aaaany minute now) and Miley Cyrus (looks at watch) and many, many more who had everything life could offer but could not live. We imagine the third world problems but I cannot believe that there aren't people among those millions for whom intermittent water or power is a minor inconvenience to be shrugged off, and to go about their quieter, slower paced, less frantic third world lives with a degree of peace and quiet that we can only imagine. They must look at us with our constant barrage of information and commuting and never having time for each other and they must pity us.
And the other problems you mention, such as being a Christian in Syria - that's a different category of problem altogether. Survival, vs living. One can survive physical danger or not; one might not survive the sucking void that threatens the soul.
Happy Monday everyone! :balloons:
And the other problems you mention, such as being a Christian in Syria - that's a different category of problem altogether. Survival, vs living. One can survive physical danger or not; one might not survive the sucking void that threatens the soul.
Happy Monday everyone! :balloons:
LozHinge the Unhinged
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How could anything that directly affects me possibly be trivial? Why the very idea of ... what ... I don't ... ? *mind blown*
LozHinge the Unhinged
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The solipsist in me wants to beat up the part of me that is you. The nihilist in me, however, cannot be bothered :no:
LozHinge the Unhinged
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That isn't quite right, kamap.
A better way of phrasing it would be, "Loz, can I buy you a drink?" or maybe, "What time do they serve food here?".
Both of those are very good questions :yes:
LozHinge the Unhinged
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It's all one part and all of it is me. I am merely humouring the part of me that is you, pretending that you have a separate existence outside myself.
Remember, you (I) cannot argue with a solipsist - only he (me) can do that :nod:
Remember, you (I) cannot argue with a solipsist - only he (me) can do that :nod:
Grr, seems like karma is doing everything it can to ** me off. And it's good at it too.
Had a little car accident. Was supposed to have my car back in 2-3 days. At the end of day 3 heard nothing. Called. Oh yeah, had a little set back. It'll be done tomorrow.
So the day after i expected them to call, so i can pick up my car. Didn't hear anything up until i wanted to go home from work (it's near work so i wanted to pick it up after). Called again. We're almost done. You can pick it up in about 45 mins.
So i stay longer then planned, thinking i can pick it up just before the weekend. On my way there i get called. I don't pick up phones while driving, but i'm almost there already and suspected it was them. Sure enough, i get there. Oops we made a mistake. If you leave the car here we can fix it Monday and you can pick it up at the end of the day.
About to go home today. Still no call. Called them again. Lines are taken. They take my number to call me back. I wait for about 20 mins. Meaning i stay at work longer for the second time (while having nothing to do there) in case i can pick up said car. Ok, they're not gonna call me back any time soon (if at all). Called them again. Let us check. Something still isn't right so it's not finished. It'll be done tomorrow in the morning. We'll give you a call then. I'm very sorry. *ARHG. RAGE*
TL;DR: Car supposed to be gone for 2-3 days. If they don't screw up again i'll have it back tomorrow, which will be 8 days in. 3 to 4x the time it was supposed to take.
Had a little car accident. Was supposed to have my car back in 2-3 days. At the end of day 3 heard nothing. Called. Oh yeah, had a little set back. It'll be done tomorrow.
So the day after i expected them to call, so i can pick up my car. Didn't hear anything up until i wanted to go home from work (it's near work so i wanted to pick it up after). Called again. We're almost done. You can pick it up in about 45 mins.
So i stay longer then planned, thinking i can pick it up just before the weekend. On my way there i get called. I don't pick up phones while driving, but i'm almost there already and suspected it was them. Sure enough, i get there. Oops we made a mistake. If you leave the car here we can fix it Monday and you can pick it up at the end of the day.
About to go home today. Still no call. Called them again. Lines are taken. They take my number to call me back. I wait for about 20 mins. Meaning i stay at work longer for the second time (while having nothing to do there) in case i can pick up said car. Ok, they're not gonna call me back any time soon (if at all). Called them again. Let us check. Something still isn't right so it's not finished. It'll be done tomorrow in the morning. We'll give you a call then. I'm very sorry. *ARHG. RAGE*
TL;DR: Car supposed to be gone for 2-3 days. If they don't screw up again i'll have it back tomorrow, which will be 8 days in. 3 to 4x the time it was supposed to take.
LozHinge the Unhinged
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Be nice, GT or I shall smack the part of me that is you! :nod:
