Batman - The Dark Knight Mafia Game

[thefranklin]

Typed this up earlier, but apparently did not hit post.



So you can either use your ability to discover and mimic an active ability, or you can use an ability you collected previously?



FOE was the last name missing from my list.

I targeted Laarz.



So you have items but do not know what they do? What items do you have, and what do you expect they do?



I always thought a bus driver was a town role, with the occasional one shots given to mafia, because it is so powerful in their hands. How many times have you played with a mafia bus driver?

Anyways, took a closer look at voting records last night:

1. crawlingdeadman - Voted mafia 2 times. ussure, sketchy claim
4. Laarz - has never voted mafia. unsure, light claim
6. BipolarChemist - voted mafia once. unsure, sketchy claim
9. FredOfErik - voted mafia twice, interrogated once. Feels townie, but scketch claim today
10. kestegs - voted mafia twice Feels townie, townie claim
14. Gwaihir - voted mafai once
16. Goryani - voted mafai once Feels townie, townie claim
18. omgwtfbbqpwned - voted mafia twice, forced a third time. DK mafia. feels scummy, but very townie actions.
19. Moar - voted mafai 3 times. Unsure, sketchy claim
20. thefranklin - has not voted mafia. Feels townie, townie claim
22. Noodle - voted mafai once. Feels townie, townie claim
23. Caluin Graye - voted mafai three times. Feels townie, light claim


Of the two who have never voted mafia, I felt that Laarz was more likely to be mafia than thefranklin.

Scum list:
FOE - claim seems odd. We need more details
Laarz - Lurks, has not voted mafia
cdm - odd claim.
Moar - odd claim.
thefranklin - never voted mafia.

SI wasn't mafia? I didn't vote Mal early and I am scum for that? I also didn't vote cdm early, but chose incorrect... assuming cdm is town. Plus, me not voting early helped prevent an early lock on cdm. And you assume omg is town, too.

Dangit, Justin Bieber is in the way of me going to the first page, stupid ads.

 

[thefranklin]

Astute observation. To build upon this: If we assume that there are two mafia teams, and coju was mafia hitman for team #1, then we might assume that whomever is doing the poisoning is also a hitman for team #2.

If this is true, then what 'perk' (for lack of a better term) does Team 2 have over Team 1? A poison kill is significantly less desirable than a standard kill. In the interest of balance, one team would have an advantage over the other, so there'd need be something to counter-balance that.

As such, I'm not yet convinced that there are two separate mafia teams.



Just for the record, I'll not be claiming my role/ability. It is not an investigative role/ability, and the town gains no benefit from knowing what it is.

Do you benefit from said ability? Does it punish mafia in some way?

Sorry guys, first time on a real computer this game day.

 

[thefranklin]

After reading today again:

Vote: BiPolarChemist

I feel the early claim was an attempt to look townie. BPC didn't want to start today with an uphill battle, meaning he was expecting a battle.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Laarz:
Vote: thefranklin

Count as of #983:

6 to lynch, 7 to lock

Vote:
FredOfErik(2): Moar, kestegs
BipolarChemist(2): Caluin Graye, thefranklin
Thefranklin(2): Gwaihir, Laarz
Moar(1): crawlingdeadman

 

[Kestegs]

Do you benefit from said ability? Does it punish mafia in some way?

Sorry guys, first time on a real computer this game day.

SI wasn't mafia? I didn't vote Mal early and I am scum for that? I also didn't vote cdm early, but chose incorrect... assuming cdm is town. Plus, me not voting early helped prevent an early lock on cdm. And you assume omg is town, too.

Dangit, Justin Bieber is in the way of me going to the first page, stupid ads.

You just made a good case for me to switch to you.

 

[Bad Ash]

CG: I have to use my power the first 24 hours of the day. I have not done it yet due to my conservatism in not wanting to take the choice out of the town. And then if I lose the town really learns nothing.

BA: All I said was "felt like scum" and you went nuts. You have been very jumpy with everything you have said anyways, /ignore.

I am still reading on who I vote, thinking BPC or FoE. I do think if one had an NK they should have looked a little closer to not kill the doc, but then Gwahir did the same thing with his power. I guess Gwahir would have lost it if his target died?

I went nuts by making one post? (two due to error)

 

[thefranklin]

You just made a good case for me to switch to you.

It was an ad, I was not listening to Justin bieber, I swear.

 

[Goryani]

upon thinking of claims, what really bugs me is the number of Robins. There really was only ever 1 Robin at a time, correct? The first one (CG's claim) became his own superhero I think (Nightwing?), but why would the other two both be Robin?

I only see 1 Robin claim (thefranklin). Who are the other two?

If there are multiple Robins, are any of them the Robin that gets brainwashed and turns to evil? I think such a character was in the last Batman themed game.

 

[Goryani]

Either I have not received it OR my targets are not informed when they receive an item. I'm not sure why you take for granted that they would be? The items grants passive abilities, so they can potentially work without the owner knowing - that was my whole reasoning for bringing this up.

That's the entire purpose of the inventor role. Inventors give out stuff that does stuff. The receiver knows they received something that does something.

Even if the items do nothing, there is purpose to notification being sent as it lets the receiver communicate they received something (and hence prove your ability). The weird neutral that gave out holy icons that did nothing (Gwaihir had that role?) but count for a neutral win condition would notify the recipient they received an item.

That you would target yourself seems incredibly suspicious. Very rarely are inventors allowed to give an item to themselves. If they are allowed, they will know what the item does and how it affects them. I'm not buying the "I don't know" excuse. When I asked Pyro for more info about my role, I received info and not a wall of silence.

 

[Caluin Graye]

I only see 1 Robin claim (thefranklin). Who are the other two?

Myself and OMG.

I'm **** Grayson, the original, first, and coolest Robin. **** grew up to become Nightwing, a vigilante in his own right.

Then came Jason Todd (OMG's Robin), who was killed by Joker. I'm a bit fuzzy here, but I think the death was faked, and there was some kookiness going on afterwards with the Red Hood and stuff.

Third is Tim Drake (Thefranklin), who appears to be the current Robin.

Continuity wise, there are two more Robins that come later, but they seem to be playing the roles of "Sir Not Appearing In This Game".

If there are multiple Robins, are any of them the Robin that gets brainwashed and turns to evil? I think such a character was in the last Batman themed game.

While I wouldn't call it 'Brainwashing', Jason Todd is sort of off the deep end when he's resurrected. He's much more ruthless and cruel, and clashes with the Batman Family quite a few times. He doesn't consider himself a bad guy, but he's definitely not one of the good guys. Think... Punisher.

I'm not aware of **** Grayson or Tim Drake being brainwashed and turned to evil, but my DC lore is weak. I wouldn't be surprised to hear it's happened.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Do you benefit from said ability? Does it punish mafia in some way?

Why do you need to know either of these things?

 

[Goryani]

CG: I have to use my power the first 24 hours of the day. I have not done it yet due to my conservatism in not wanting to take the choice out of the town. And then if I lose the town really learns nothing.

If you had a vigi kill instead of the gladiator abilitiy, would you have used it last night? If so, on whom?

 

[Goryani]

SI wasn't mafia? I didn't vote Mal early and I am scum for that? I also didn't vote cdm early, but chose incorrect... assuming cdm is town. Plus, me not voting early helped prevent an early lock on cdm. And you assume omg is town, too.

That's an incredibly defensive response for a simple end of the day vote count recount.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

in the last Batman themed game.

Wait, there was another Batman themed game? Great, now my game is ruined.

 

[Goryani]

Vote: FredOfErik

Batman mask doesn't have to be a pro-town item. It may let scum disguise themselves as Batman (hider? redirector?). I don't buy the innocence routine. On a day when we have plenty of ammo to find the remaining scum, FOE has not. Instead, he's been very passive and reactive.

I have no issues voting for BipolarChemist. Look at his Twilight posts. Then his D1 posts (when he was eligible for prosecution). Then his D2 posts (when he wasn't). That doesn't match the townie, no fear, full of confidence, play style BPC admitted to last game. Oh, then there is the issue of trying to kill Laarz.

I have few issues voting for crawlingdeadman. Assuming he is telling the truth about his redirector ability, it wasn't used in a pro-town manner. It could have been used to guarantee djm lived another night since that version of redirector is stronger than a doc or jailkeeper.

 

[Laarz]

So Gwaihir, you think Mr Franklin is more scummy then the guy who tried to kill me.

 

[thefranklin]

That's an incredibly defensive response for a simple end of the day vote count recount.

It was a two vote worthy response.

 

[Laarz]

I kinda feel like omg, dont like someone fooling with my vote:scratchchin: think'in

 

[thefranklin]

Why do you need to know either of these things?

I don't know your alignment, so I can't take your word for it not helping the town. There are plenty of known roles that can hurt mafia, so its hard to believe you have one. That leaves you having a role that only helps yourself. We need to get you to say something that you can be held to.

 

[Goryani]

Wait, there was another Batman themed game? Great, now my game is ruined.

Sorta.

I was told I was the Emergency Medical Hologram from Star Trek Voyager (doc). It turns out I was a NK immune jailkeeper. That game also had Bruce Willis and Robocop.

I say Batmen themed because quite a few characters were Batman themed. Including Tim Drake.