Baldur's Gate Mafia Game

[Bad Ash]

I am legitimately confused.

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[djmbbandie]

Unvote: coju
Vote: Goryani

Kill: coju

That's one.

did cdm silence him?

 

[djmbbandie]

I am now officially confused.

 

[BipolarChemist]

I am now officially confused.

We can be confusion buddies. I would really appreciate some elaboration on this.

 

[djmbbandie]

Also, why is Bad Ash imitating coju?

 

[Goryani]

Solar Ice, can we get a vote count?

I think this is SI's sleepy time and we may be waiting a while before any confirmation/denial a daykill occurred.

 

[Bad Ash]

Also, why is Bad Ash imitating coju?

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[djmbbandie]

I thought he was in South Africa.

 

[BipolarChemist]

I thought he was in South Africa.

He is, it is currently 6:00 am there. That's a sleep time if I've ever heard one.

 

[Jason Maher]

Mafia hosts don't get to sleep...

 

[Bad Ash]

Mafia hosts don't get to sleep...

+1 mafia points for this post

 

[Solar Ice]

Vote tally:

djmbbandie (1): flubbucket
Goryani (3): Sathoris, crawlingdeadman, Bad Ash
Caluin Graye (1): coju
Gwaihir (1): Caluin Graye
Sathoris (1): Goryani

djmbbandie's vote in post #294 should not have counted.

Coju has been targeted for a Kill. He may post as normal for the duration of this Day phase.

 

[Jcakes1]

Agreed on the first point that I bolded. The only game I have seen with more than one lynch a day was the Cheers game. From what I remembered, mafia was able to control the second lynch very well, and it only ever lynched townies. I was and am for using a second lynch, but thought it worth pointing out a previous issue.

As for thefranklin being mafia, I had no read on him. But at the time I was thinking that there might be some sort of daily quest mechanic, similar to that one gameshow game. If we always got a opportunity to have a second lynch, that would be a huge amount of power to the town, so I wondered if there was a downside to failing.

With the second bolded point, I agree as well. The idea just popped into my head as a good way of dealing with a lynch immune. I realized later that it was really not a good idea, so I didn't even bother following up when SI didn't answer. Although I do think pharphis asked SI as well later, which is interesting.




I agree with part of your statement, but double check the list. I did point out the ones I felt were most important: People alive that voted phar early (Sath and Bipolar), and the one who locked him(coju). I did not label the rest, as I don't think they matter as much. As for votes on kegs, I find the order to be much less important, as his lynch was almost assured from the start of the day, so he was a very obvious bus target for mafia to vote at anytime.

There is one difference between this two-vote and the Cheers vote, namely the Cheers one required 75% and had no lock. Hence it was basically impossible to lynch mafia with it. What did happen in that particular game, was the vote2 mechanic was used when the cop had a guilty verdict, freeing up Vote 1 for hunting.

Wait. Did you just say mafia have no reason to lie in this game....

Just to clarify for everyone: The moderator typically posts mafia info in the mafia QT at daybreak. It's been that way so often and for so long that it's the default assumption on my part. pharphis feeding his info to his mafia teammates isn't the first thing I think of. I think of info fishing instead.

Part 1. Not no reason to lie, but I don't really see why he would lie about that particular point. Though I am hesitant to place any credence on anything a confirmed scum has to say.

Power role is anything that isn't vanilla townie or vanilla goon.

Some power roles are exclusively anti-town: ninja and godfather.
Some power roles are split between town and anti-town: roleblocker and rolecop.
Some power roles are exclusively pro-town: doc and cop.

I'd put JOAT and watcher in that exclusively pro-town list rather than any other. Some players would believe anyone who claimed watcher simply because they claimed watcher. That's a mistake. The same for me and my tracker claim.

By all rights, someone should have pointed to pharphis the mafia watcher and made some insinuation about my tracker claim. It's a connection I expected several to talk about if only to guage my reaction. Only CDM did (though he didn't exactly point out a possible connection between pharphis and I, he did bring up the idea of a mafia tracker). What's that say?

I'd say JOAT can be mafia (seen it a couple of times) and I would put it in the neutral camp. I agree that tracker / watcher are a very similar role.

Why did you bring this up out of interested? It feels kind of forced, like you prepared a response to a question about tracker / watcher similarity and then were disappointed noone asked so decided to bring it up yourself.

Unvote: coju
Vote: Goryani

Kill: coju

That's one.

Interesting move, not one I would take as I don't really see coju as being scum.

Here's the kicker. Kestegs voting 7th on Phar is crazy. There has to be two mafia groups.

Pharphis was pretty pissed off that we got lumped in with kegs for the simple post of "lets see what he has to say" dems da breaks they say.

Why why why would kegs vote for phar 7th if they were on the same team? The dude was super close to not being lynched.

Goryani had no problem voting for kegs, but voted for Jason Maher? WHAT? Tons of interaction with phar too.

CG is super shady but again, the vote was so close that I dont know if he'd do it. He might be on Kegs team. 100% would not be shocked by this. His behavior was off the charts scummy. Multiple mis-votes. Voting for a dead player. etc.

Noodle says basically the EXACT same thing as Pharphis does and gets no attention because he lurks like a mother. Noodle should go, Gory should go, and CG should go.

I partly agree with your conclusion regarding multiple mafia. The only other thing I am considering as a possibility is that kestegs voted pharphy, to get people to not vote pharphy based on a confirmed scum voting him. After seeing kestegs vote pharphis, I would have been hesitant.

I've got to run, will post some more of my thoughts when I get back.

 

[FredOfErik]

Coju has been targeted for a Kill. He may post as normal for the duration of this Day phase.

I don't know what to make of this. I very much disagree with the decision, but done is done.

cdm, any further comments on the kill?

coju, what you have to share before you (supposedly) get killed?

 

[Goryani]

djmbbandie's vote in post #294 should not have counted.

Is it because of the space between the 2 and the colon?

Coju has been targeted for a Kill. He may post as normal for the duration of this Day phase.

Huh. That's a bit unusual. Haven't see that since Copper Canyon.

@cdm - Did you know coju would be around to talk for the rest of the day? Also, what's your character name?

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Are you left handed? I'd ask for your final thoughts but I'm not sure I'd understand them any better than some of your other posts.

 

[Goryani]

Part 1. Not no reason to lie, but I don't really see why he would lie about that particular point. Though I am hesitant to place any credence on anything a confirmed scum has to say.

What do you think of BA's theory that pharphis was the tracker and I'm the watcher or another role?

Why did you bring this up out of interested? It feels kind of forced, like you prepared a response to a question about tracker / watcher similarity and then were disappointed noone asked so decided to bring it up yourself.

I brought it up because no one else did. It's an important thing for town to talk about in case there are other "townie" roles in the hands of mafia. It requires thinking and scumhunting differently. I also brought it up because I used lack of such discussion to identify scum.

I have no response about the similarity between tracker/watcher. No grand defense other than to say I'm not mafia. Any mafia would wonder if I'm on another mafia team and some townies probably do as well.

 

[Jcakes1]

What do you think of BA's theory that pharphis was the tracker and I'm the watcher or another role?



I brought it up because no one else did. It's an important thing for town to talk about in case there are other "townie" roles in the hands of mafia. It requires thinking and scumhunting differently. I also brought it up because I used lack of such discussion to identify scum.

I have no response about the similarity between tracker/watcher. No grand defense other than to say I'm not mafia. Any mafia would wonder if I'm on another mafia team and some townies probably do as well.

Part 1.

End Of Day 1
Pharphis has been lynched. He was Sendai. Watcher. Mafia. Anti Town.

So pharphy is definitely not the tracker. You pretty much have to be tracker, or have someone in your team that is tracker / can gather evidence on CDM otherwise it would be fairly dangerous to claim you tracked CDM.

Part 2.

If you are not mafia, would the mafia not have used this as a way to frame you, especially given the heat that is currently on you?

 

[Jcakes1]

Vote: Goryani

I am voting for you for three reasons
1) You did not vote for pharphis, instead laying a pointless vote on Jason (pointless in the sense he was not going to be lynched at that late stage)
2) Pharphis "the bus" outed you after pre-warning you and BA that he had information about both of you
3) the whole "mafia having pro-town abilities". Like I stated it feels very forced

I am heading off to bed in the next couple of hours, should be back just before days end

 

[Sathoris]

Seriously.... You think I'm lying because you believe what a confirmed scum said about me.

On N1 I targeted CDM. I was told CDM did not target anyone. CDM was mentioned in my results so I don't believe I was involved in a bus switch.

Confirmed scum with a sole purpose to get a townie to claim his power role. Pharphis didn't want to sow confusion, he wanted complete honesty from you to help his teammates. Add to that your claim came completely out of the blue and frankly it's not helping us just because of the contradiction. Which means we can't take your results seriously. If you were speaking the truth you only confirmed yourself as a night kill/block target. You didn't have any useful info and you made sure you didn't get any today.

Just requoting this. Did I spy with my eye a mafia slyp? Had was past tense. What knowledge do you currently have for two mafia teams?

Past tense because your claim was in the past. Try harder. And I already see from future posts you're slowly incorperating this into your 'case' against me. Pathetic.

This is as scummy as anything pharphis did. Complete. Total. Scum

Vote: Sathoris

Hi there OMGUS

The lynchpin was how he fished for more information beyond what pharphis provided. Either he's on pharphis team and SI gave pharphis' result only to pharphis and Sathoris is trying to find out the hint pharphis tried to give or he's not on pharphis team, suspects there is more to the pharphis/BA/Goryani situation and wants to learn more.

Because there is more. Your claim was suspicious and hell and we need more information to believe you. You claiming tracker is all good and well but useless if we don't trust your results. I can claim doc and name some targets but that doesn't make you trust me..

Beyond that, follow through with your "there are two mafia" theorycrafting. When there are two mafia, there are certain things mafia DON'T talk about for fear of making it easier for the other mafia to identify them (bad because another mafia want them lynched and bad because another mafia might night kill them). Sathoris behavior fits that perfectly. Lots of little bits to follow along that line of thinking, such as his slip about there being two mafia before he ever voiced suspicion of there being two mafia.

Yeah, everyone fits that perfectly.

Is it just me, or is Bad Ash just floundering around, randomly targeting people? Townies generally don't do that.

You would get my vote if it wasn't on Goryani. Horrible that is.

 

[Sathoris]

Gory/Phar theory:

Gory tracked me. Phar watched someone we do not know.

And the plot thickens.