Gods of Ancient Greece. Forum mafia game.

[Moar]

Hey man, I'm straight! :nono:

But seriously..... I agree with moar. But I kinda doubt people that have a nightly night action are receiving their results in the format of N0, N1, N2, etc. so I can see where she is making something out of nothing on the other hand.

And for reference: we have gone back and forth on whether to use n0 or not many times over the games I've been in.

Her eagerness to not lynch foe has been noted though.

I,m not convinced FoE is clean. He smells and I,ll vote for him if needed. But first I try to state my case for lynching the one I think smells even more.

 

[korialstraz]

Sorry I haven't posted much. I meant to sit down and read/post, but then TC asked me if I wanted to join infernal machine runs, and I did. 3 hours and 45 mins later, and I'll have about 4 hours of sleep before work. >_<

But to make it quick and dirty. parphis has picked up scum points for role fishing, Moar as well for wasting time going after Zokar over something it seems no one (including myself) looks as a slip-up. Although Zokar does feel scummy, it's not because of his list, as I've been in a few games where the game starts with N0 and not N1. Not sure what makes people think FoE is so scummy, probably something I can't think of atm.

Kestegs seems to have been playing rather stable for most of the game, so thinking maybe townie? BA not sure about, and thefranklin absolutely no clue on where he's at.

@Everyone: Who do you think we gain the most information from lynching today?

 

[thefranklin]

I don't understand how people were/still are confused over his list. And if you check my posts I bet I referenced the wrong night thinking it was N0. That's not even the point, either. He called out his next watch in his list, what's wrong with that? Put some WIFOM in the scums face.

 

[Kestegs]

I don't understand how people were/still are confused over his list. And if you check my posts I bet I referenced the wrong night thinking it was N0. That's not even the point, either. He called out his next watch in his list, what's wrong with that? Put some WIFOM in the scums face.

Agreed. While I was originally confused by the list it all makes sense after he explained it.

 

[Bad Ash]

Not that I am 100% certain that FoE is scum, I do want to ask you Kestegs if you realize your vote is invalid because it has been quite some time and has me suspicious

 

[Kestegs]

Weird, I didn't even notice my name not on the vote count. What did I do wrong? I've been on my phone this whole day.

vote: FredofErik

 

[Kestegs]

I agree, he pushed the issue more than once now. Scum just can't help but try and figure out why they failed.



It doesn't seem like you understand how the watcher role works. You could kill someone on n4 while Zokar watched you, but he still will not get a result on you if nobody visited you.

vote: fredoferik

I still am not comfortable with Zokar, for reasons I've stated previously, but I think foe is more important to lynch today, and then Zokar has one more night to potentially prove his claim.

got on my computer and found my original vote, yea, I didn't realize that I messed it up, someone should point these things out to me!

Weird, I didn't even notice my name not on the vote count. What did I do wrong? I've been on my phone this whole day.

vote: FredofErik

 

[pharphis]

I'm pretty sure zokar did lol

 

[Zokar1]

Not sure if this was intentional or not, but in case it's not, your vote is broken.

Mmmmmm.....I can just taste the irony.

*nom nom nom*

Vote tally Day 5 (5/6):
Zokar - 2 (Moar, FredOfErik)
FredOfErik - 4 (thefranklin, Bad Ash, Zokar, pharphis)

I'm laughing but I don't know why... and now I'm scared and still don't know why. Stop it stegs!!!!

Nope. Not gonna!

got on my computer and found my original vote, yea, I didn't realize that I messed it up, someone should point these things out to me!

I'm pretty sure zokar did lol

Thanks for the laughs

 

[Kestegs]

WTF is wrong with me? I'm taking not paying attention to a whole 'Nother level!

 

[Laarz]

It looks like some kind of connection between Moar and FoE, she has sure been pushing hard to go after the penguin:scratchchin:


come on penguin, sing along:jig:

"Joxer theMighty
Roams through the countryside
He never needs a place to hide
With Gabby as his sidekick
Fighting with her little stick
Righting wrongs and singing songs
Being mighty all day long
He's Joxer-he's Joxer the Mighty"

 

[Zokar1]

Does this count as singing along?

"Joxer theMighty
Roams through the countryside
He never needs a place to hide
With Gabby as his sidekick
Fighting with her little stick
Righting wrongs and singing songs
Being mighty all day long
He's Joxer-he's Joxer the Mighty"

:jig: :jig::jig: :jig::jig: :jig::jig: :jig::jig: :jig::jig: :jig:

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Alright, yesterday I did my whole big giant string of posts and pretty much signed out for the night as it was pretty late, I see I missed a couple things from between when I pulled the quotes to when I got around to posting.

Vote: FredOfErik

Franklin and I are mason buddies with one other We have discussed, and think this is the best option. Hopefully you do as well

Hm, so it comes out, now it makes sense why you two seem to have been on the same track for the beginning of the day phase.

I think you are right, I hadn't really remembered he claimed 1 time lynch immune. That is really an odd ability for town to have.

Is there a reason you haven't told us your third member.

Hey! I have an idea for a game! Lets make one where at least half of the players are nightkill immune and the other half are lynch immune! Wouldn't that be a fun game everyone?

@pyro
only reason I put the "predicted" (as you put it) watch target in there was just me tossing in some doubt for the scum as to if I would actually watch you or not. the line of thinking being that they would reason that they couldn't determine if I was being honest or not and would pick somebody else just to be safe. this would shorten the list of interesting targets by one and possibly allow me to have better odds at watching somebody and getting something useful. this of course didn't actually work.

Hm, an interesting idea, but well played. I really didn't understand why you were giving out the next target so it kind of makes more sense now. However, if you are town, wouldn't any claim like that be taken as the player throwing out extra WIFOM. How much do you think that would influence a mafisos decision.

He seemed the least annoyed with me. I figured if those that are pushing to lynch me are actually scum then I would watch somebody who was the least critical of me on the assumption that scum would want to silence his voice to make the rest of the town sense the overall negative pressure on me and lynch me.

The first part of this seems like a pretty poor excuse for who you picked to watch, the next couple sentences redeem it slightly though. However I don't think I remember korial specifically speaking positively of you either.

Probably because he never really claimed, just posted results. But that's too far back to really remember what I was thinking at the time.

This also sounds like a pretty poor response, but your next sentence is not quite as redeeming as Zokars post.

 

[Laarz]

You're in great voice tonight:yes:

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

and as for the "on the cusp" comment...
a little recap. I was about to be lynched, goryani unvoted me and almost got himself lynched. I assumed I would be on the blocks the next day but then we had two scum to lynch. In the meantime I didn't just assume I would be let go and be forgotten though pressure on me has fluctuated a bit. But, today we go at it again, I'm almost half way to lynch and then BA comes out with the FoE lynch thing. All along I've still yet to produce any useful results to bolster my claim... so, from my perspective I'm just waiting for other people to run out of "sure things" and come back to me again, unless of course I produce something useful before then, but time is running rather short for that to happen.

The thing is you had two full days of additional discussion and night actions to determine if you are town or scum and yet nothing has been very convincing of your alignment actually being town as you claim to be. Maybe if I one of us saw something that would lead us to believe you are town then you wouldn't have been "on the cusp" for the past 2 days.

Sitting duck line is working as intended just as the chat gem. Why would I claim Zeus and not give the mafia any whine with my lightning?


Claiming mason was not the plan when I did it. I did it for a reason and think it can be figured out if someone puts some thought into it.

The third member is irrelevant. Revealing who the dead member is should not prove credibility, and who knows if the anti-town players use them as some sort of explanation?

In terms of being mafia and concoting this plan, that is quite laughable. Frankie and I have absolutely zero pressure on us, and revealing we are masons together if we are mafia would be just about the worst play we could make.

I mean, we can easily lynch you Zokar if thats what you'd like instead. You arent giving any alternatives, disagreeing with a different option, and questioning our motives. You and FoE connected by any chance? FoE did put a vote for you and changed it minutes later did he not? Then again he might have a vote on him right now. So that could be false

Zokar's biggest issue is the watching ability and who he has chosen. I will vote for him if we need it, the only person I wont be voting for is the franklin. I think FOE has played a scummy game and there is a chance that Zokar could be town. The sticking point is watching himself, an coincidences usually mean scum. Tons of people worthy of a hanging

I think you were addressing me and then kind of switched half way through this post. I'm trying to figure out why you put in the line about being mafia and concoting this plan, I went back to my original post and I don't think I made any mention in there about you and frank possibly being on a mafia team, other than pointing out about how you mentioning being a mason was at a strange time in one of my later posts. Did I miss something here? Or are you just trying to point out something so daring that it can't possibly be true even though no one said anything to that extent?

In terms of your "no pressure" comment. It almost can be compared to pharphis calling out Jcakes for claiming his name. There was no pressure on Jcakes at all from what I can remember but I definately see it as very possible for Phar to be scum, why do something like that when there is no pressure?

FoE does not have a vote for Zokar. It was korial. So that enhances a FoE lynch. Also enhances korial in my eyes.

Pyro and Kestegs are probably a scum team cause I just have no read on them at all.

Korial
FoE
Zokar
Moar

people I would like to see one of them lynched.

So now me and kegs are on a scum team because you don't have a read on either of us? What?

@Pyro,

I was asking if anyone knew why there wasn't a kill. If someone has a plausible idea or something to say to prove someone is town (by saying they used 1-shot doc or something on someone) then it would be awesome to hear it.

No, you got it wrong. If I was mafia I would probably know why a kill wouldn't go through at this point.


I also don't have a read on kegs or pyro. They're both playing like they always do, as far as I can tell.

TBH, after the mix-up yesterday (with zokar's watch and everything) I feel like Zokar is more likely town than scum. Too many people wouldn't let up and ask other people questions (myself included) which to me is a bit of a signal that the person is town.

I'll probably vote FoE tomorrow, because I believe you are masons and it sounds like a reasonable idea.

Kegs pretty much addressed this, theres a big difference between asking what caused a kill and what stopped a kill.

 

[Pyrotechnician1]

Do you have any reason to suspect Gory was alligned with CG and cakes?



How does town not benifit from knowing that it will take two days to lynch me?



As you say yourself, I have already explained this. I chose him because he was involved in a lot of discussions on D1 and because of the answers I got when I on D2 asked people about their reads on the persons who died the previous night.



Nope. Zokar stated he watched me on N4. If I was to be SK I would've most likely been responsible for one of the kills on N4, wouldn't I? If I was mafia I would've had either been responsible for a kill or at the very least been in contact with scum buddies.

So:
- if Zokar is town (which I however doubt) and not lying about his watcher ability/results it can be assumed that I'm town too.
- if Zokar is scum and/or lying about his ability/results the possibility of me being scum/SK still remains.

The only other possible situation where I could be SK/scum is if I was somehow bus driven or something else that would mess up his result on me.

Lynching me will take two days and reveal that I am town, which won't necessarily confirm or deconfirm whether or not Zokar is telling the truth.
Lynching Zokar can give to outcomes:
1. He is town. This would confirm his results.
2. He is scum. We don't know more than we do now, but we lynched scum.

Personally, I think he is scum.

Vote: Zokar

Why is it that no one can understand what the watcher role does after it has been explained 5 times? Big defense based on the improper understanding of a role and then not much follow up, other than a quick 4 word sentence essentially saying that he guess he didn't understand it.

Vote tally Day 5 (5/6):
Zokar - 2 (Moar, FredOfErik)
FredOfErik - 2 (thefranklin, Bad Ash)

Pyro gets the award for most consecutive posts (9).

Yay awards! But technically doesn't Mal get that award for his green eggs and spam? Or does that not count since it was spam.

No, I do mean what, as in what is important enough to the mafia for CG to take a bullet. If a town vig targeted JCakes and a mafia bodyguard ended up dead, you effectively caught two scum with it. Now what does the other mafia have? Some kind of power that lets them get out of lyncheses? Hmm, FoE claimed a lynch immune power and Moar has one or one was used on her.

PS: For once I am not uber scum? What's that supposed to mean? Haha

Hm, good question then. However the only way we would know who the other scum is if the killer steps forward with this information and I don't thats going to happen. Either that or CG was killed directly, its probably impossible to tell.

@the P.S. For some reason in previous games whenever I read your posts they just sound amazingly scummy, this game however I'm not getting that as much and you have valid arguements and points that I have agreed on rather than in previous games where I have stared at some of your posts and said "Where the heck did he come up with that from?"

I can,t get the laptop to accept this forum. Probably because it,s a game forum. Bloody government issue laptop.

so I go from memory
Zokar said he would reveal who he watched with results except for the last one which he would reveal the result for the day after
Zokar posted a target and result list with 5 names and 4 results when we only had 4 nights, he started with N0
to me that means he claimed to already have watched target 5

when questioned about that and mod confirmed N1 start, he amended the list to say that 5th target would be the coming night,s target

That I call BS and scum slip.

Later somebody asked if "TBD" was to be decided which he readily agreed to while I mean he originally meant it to mean to be disclosed.

Sorry, forgive me if I'm just being technology illiterate, but isn't an ipad able to surf the web and all that like normal? Or does it have extremely reducded functionallity.

Also this continuation of the N4 N5 whatever arguement, I don't think it really holds any water. I think you may be grasping at some pretty thin straws there Moar. There are plenty of things that produce my suspicion of Zokar but that specifically is not really one of them in my opinion.

Weird, I didn't even notice my name not on the vote count. What did I do wrong? I've been on my phone this whole day.

vote: FredofErik

Did you really not notice it for that long kegs?

Anyway with all that being said, I still see Fred as our most likely scum. Since we are already up to 5 votes though, I will wait until morning to lock him just because I know he is on a time zone difference although I don't think much he can say is going to change my opinion.

 

[Zokar1]

Hm, an interesting idea, but well played. I really didn't understand why you were giving out the next target so it kind of makes more sense now. However, if you are town, wouldn't any claim like that be taken as the player throwing out extra WIFOM. How much do you think that would influence a mafisos decision.



The first part of this seems like a pretty poor excuse for who you picked to watch, the next couple sentences redeem it slightly though. However I don't think I remember korial specifically speaking positively of you either.

As for the influence, it's hard to say. I imagine they probably spoke about it and laughed since they went to a different target anyway, but who knows.

I didn't say he spoke positively about me, just that he seemed to be the least annoyed with me. Or that's what I remember feeling at the time. As for how good a reason to pick somebody, it feels like picking a target at random would have just as good a chance to yield results (probably even better results given my current track record lol).

 

[Zokar1]

Last post of the night:

Laarz asked everybody to sing along early in the game, Leo sang along and then promptly died.
Laarz asked me to sing along.... if I'm dead tomorrow... damn you Laarz!!! LOL!!

OK, tinfoil hat back in the drawer. Goodnight!


Ugh... I just looked at my last post and noticed I said "they went to a different target anyway" when what I was trying to say is "they didn't target him anyway" but it's getting late. ~waves~

 

[Moar]

It,s me who has the extremely reducd functionality when posting with the iPad or phone.

I,m not sure I,ll be able to post later, so I,ll change my vote now. I still think Zokar is scum though.

Unvote: Zokar
Vote: FredofErik

 

[ThunderCat]

Oh no, I has been ninja'd.

FredOfErik has been locked. Day ends in about 12 hours.

Vote tally Day 5 (5/6):
Zokar - 1 (FredOfErik)
FredOfErik - 6 (thefranklin, Bad Ash, Zokar, pharphis, kestegs, Moar)

While you're at it, you should probably look at the next post that TC made after I made the post you're referencing. He corrects me and I even quote him in my amended statement. Do you seriously think that if it was an actual meaningful slip on my part that TC would out me like that?

My posts are not to be used to confirm or deny one's role / alignment / anything. I simply posted that because I'm always a tad enraged when people refer to the first night of a game as night 0. Perhaps even more enraged than when one mentions a certain shaving apparatus and/or a certain false notion regarding one that plays a lot of roulette.