Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Looks like we're still running in circles. Even thought Gorny states zemaj is anti-town (a mafia goon no less), there obviously has to be a different side to it.

I for one think we caught zemaj by mere accident, especially if his excuse for not posting was true. He panicked when Ankeli attacked him (although I remember Ankeli being quite skilled with those "votes from nowhere" pinning down mafia ;]), and then he just disappeared.

For now, I really don't have much to say. Trying to read multiple pages of mafia games is a useless endeavour. I can keep focus for maybe 1 and a half pages but then I just sway off into oblivion so I'll add on as we go from here.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

This level of determination is what I'm known for. Once I peg a mafia I don't rest until they are lynched. In a game this large, we need more single minded dedication to a lynch train, or else no one is going to get lynched.

Then you are mentally deficient. Only a fool decides based upon nothing and refuses to change his mind.

You also mischaracterized me, since I clearly went after zemaj hardcore when his being lynched was in doubt. It was around six hours before the end of the day, perhaps you missed it?

No, I think you intentionally overlooked it. You're either a fool who refuses to change his mind (the worst sort of fool) or worse.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

So you are saying that your vote didn't count, and that someone else assigned it for you, basically having them be a double voter? Found this described here: http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Vote_stealer. Do you think it was a pro-town or anti-town action?



I am curious why you keep thinking things are being actually done by the mod and not actually assigned to players. I think it was Goryani who said there could be a mafia janitor who messes with names? It seems like you are trying to make the moderator our enemy instead of looking for clues from other people in the game to find mafia.

I'm just pointing out possibilities for the sake of being complete. Gorny didn't share the game mechanics with us. We can all agree to some confusion about what's going on at night. The Zemaj thing was just surreal. What if Ankeli had come up with a different character name?



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'm just pointing out possibilities for the sake of being complete. Gorny didn't share the game mechanics with us. We can all agree to some confusion about what's going on at night. The Zemaj thing was just surreal. What if Ankeli had come up with a different character name?

Ok, I can understand trying to come up with all possibilities. And true we don't know game mechanics. But Gorny actively doing stuff like that seems really far out there, and a a certain point they are so rediculus that is is just distracting to mention them. And if Ankeli came up with a different name? Wouldn't change anything for me. The name zemaj chose for his claim didn't match the one revealed at death, so I think he was mafia, and lied. I think it likely coincidence that the real one died the next night.


 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

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Originally Posted by Laarz
Curious you should ask,I thought to myself the first person to ask about it would more than likely the one that did it to me. Not sure about that tho. It was just a thought at the time. Gorny pmed me after the lynch to say that he forgot to tell me my vote was blocked but that it didn't matter because there was enough for the lynch. I looked for a voteblocker but what I found was a vote thief who steals your vote as a night action which I think is what happened to me.


So you are saying that your vote didn't count, and that someone else assigned it for you, basically having them be a double voter? Found this described here: http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Vote_stealer. Do you think it was a pro-town or anti-town action?

Gwaihir, I dont know, but the fact that gorny has 17 as the people voting for zemaj makes me think that someone may have did that, I did cast a vote for zemaj, but Gorny indicated when he pmed me that he had forgotten to tell me that I had no vote during that day phase. My thought was it was anti-town,but thats hindsight as I knew the lynch results by the time i got Gorny's pm.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ok, if I recall correctly, we're discussing the possibility of a miller role? mafiascum says that the miller only turns up anti-town to the cop. The Death Miller can turn up anti-town in his/her death, but zemaj role-claimed that Franks guy, and then Ankeli turned up to be him. I doubt Ankeli stole his role after his death and gotten killed later, so that would mean zemaj's claim was fake, alas, he can't be the miller, but must be anti-town. I really don't understand how we even started on this logic.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Gwaihir, I should make myself clearer, my first thought was that it was anti-town because I thought that my vote didn't count. I'm not sure why a pro-town would do such a thing with that many people voting
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

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Originally Posted by Laarz
Curious you should ask,I thought to myself the first person to ask about it would more than likely the one that did it to me. Not sure about that tho. It was just a thought at the time. Gorny pmed me after the lynch to say that he forgot to tell me my vote was blocked but that it didn't matter because there was enough for the lynch. I looked for a voteblocker but what I found was a vote thief who steals your vote as a night action which I think is what happened to me.


So you are saying that your vote didn't count, and that someone else assigned it for you, basically having them be a double voter? Found this described here: http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Vote_stealer. Do you think it was a pro-town or anti-town action?

Gwaihir, I dont know, but the fact that gorny has 17 as the people voting for zemaj makes me think that someone may have did that, I did cast a vote for zemaj, but Gorny indicated when he pmed me that he had forgotten to tell me that I had no vote during that day phase. My thought was it was anti-town,but thats hindsight as I knew the lynch results by the time i got Gorny's pm.

I've never heard of vote stealing before, that certinly is intresting. I assumed you were listed twice because you unvoted and revoted, but looking now I can't see an unvote.
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Anyway Vote: Drixx for reasons Ive expressed over and over. The namecalling/flailing on Arrsin tipped the scales on his scummyness and earned him a vote.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I've never heard of vote stealing before, that certinly is intresting. I assumed you were listed twice because you unvoted and revoted, but looking now I can't see an unvote.
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Anyway Vote: Drixx for reasons Ive expressed over and over. The namecalling/flailing on Arrsin tipped the scales on his scummyness and earned him a vote.

And when I come up as a townie, what will you do then? Asrrin has never quoted me, has repeatedly ignored many of my posts, and has repeatedly manipulated other of my posts to say things that I didn't say. He admitted that he refuses to change his mind. He has no reason to want to lynch me and refuses to give any. When challenged he makes vague statements about having already answered things, and yet looking through his post history, I see that he hasn't.

It's understandable for me to react hostile to that defending myself. What's not understandable is his stubborn refusal to actually address any of my points.

Pile on though ... because if you lynch me, I'll bleed townie, and then it's just another day lost to the mafia.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

And when I come up as a townie, what will you do then? Asrrin has never quoted me, has repeatedly ignored many of my posts, and has repeatedly manipulated other of my posts to say things that I didn't say. He admitted that he refuses to change his mind. He has no reason to want to lynch me and refuses to give any. When challenged he makes vague statements about having already answered things, and yet looking through his post history, I see that he hasn't.

It's understandable for me to react hostile to that defending myself. What's not understandable is his stubborn refusal to actually address any of my points.

Pile on though ... because if you lynch me, I'll bleed townie, and then it's just another day lost to the mafia.

Another lost day to the mafia? we've only had a single night kill that could be attributed to the mafia, and our first successful lynch was a mafia goon. It sounds to me like you are projecting your own scum failures on the rest of us.


 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ok, if I recall correctly, we're discussing the possibility of a miller role? mafiascum says that the miller only turns up anti-town to the cop. The Death Miller can turn up anti-town in his/her death, but zemaj role-claimed that Franks guy, and then Ankeli turned up to be him. I doubt Ankeli stole his role after his death and gotten killed later, so that would mean zemaj's claim was fake, alas, he can't be the miller, but must be anti-town. I really don't understand how we even started on this logic.

Exactly this.

Vote: Drixx


 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

At this point, if Drixx is anit- or pro-town really has little to do with anything. Majority of talk in this game is focused around you Drixx, and rather that was intentional or not, we've been going in circles all day erryday, and still haven't quite reached a consensus on your alignment. What irks me is your continuous reassurance that you are pro-town. Obviously, your reasoning is going to imply you're pro-town as it would be rather stupid to argue for an anti-town position (unless you have one of those roles that you win when you get lynched in a certain way). Your behavior is very very odd. You keep distracting town but at the same time I really can't get all that much anti-town vibe on you. It's kind of like a too-good to be true story. Damn it, what are you hiding... One way to find out...

Vote: Drixx
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'm not hiding anything. I'm not the one who keeps making lame accusations against me. If I don't answer them, I'm damned. If I answer them, I'm "dominating" the game.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Because it doesn't advance the game for the townies at all to lynch me, I am going to roleclaim, and then edit this post to self-kill.

I am Jimmie Palmer. I am a townie with no special powers.

*edit* Now that I'm editing which will autokill me, I would urge the rest of the town to look carefully at those who refused to let the conversation surrounding me die out. There are plenty of other players who have much to answer to and the thread keeps being distracted from that. No more.

Win this thing for me :)

*edit2* The only stupid thing was the obsession over me that was wrecking the game. A lynch of me today would have hurt the town. The only move I had left to help was this.
 
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Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Well... it is a sensible tactic from a pro-town standpoint >.> Instead of letting town get distracted, eliminate self as the distraction.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Because it doesn't advance the game for the townies at all to lynch me, I am going to roleclaim, and then edit this post to self-kill.

I am Jimmie Palmer. I am a townie with no special powers.

*edit* Now that I'm editing which will autokill me, I would urge the rest of the town to look carefully at those who refused to let the conversation surrounding me die out. There are plenty of other players who have much to answer to and the thread keeps being distracted from that. No more.

Win this thing for me :)

*edit2* The only stupid thing was the obsession over me that was wrecking the game. A lynch of me today would have hurt the town. The only move I had left to help was this.

I dont see how this is better, still down a townie. You should have just played the game and not worried about what others are saying. You can never bring everyone to your point of veiw in this games,so why worry about it?



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Wow, way to resign, which is the scummiest tactic of them all, this screams anti-town thats been caught and just throws in the towel knowing he can't change peoples minds.

Regradless of being pro/anti town thats just a childish unsportmanship move to make. Full stop. Like flipped the monopoly board in a game where you have to pay for your opponents hotel, and is as illogical as going "You accuse me of murder? I'll shoot myself in the head to prove my innocence".

If I was the mod I'd blacklist you from all games just for that dickish move. ¬.¬

Unvote I guess :/
 
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