Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

The only flaw in your logic that I can see korialstraz, is this.

If I am indeed a Vanilla Townie, there are two ways you could know that for sure. If you are mafia (and therefore know I'm not one of you) or if you are the "sheriff". So, if I get lynched and I end up being a VT as I claim, then you would be free of much suspicion.

But you could know I was a vanilla townie and still be anti-town ... so me coming up clean doesn't really say anything about you.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Drixx said:
The only flaw in your logic that I can see korialstraz, is this.

If I am indeed a Vanilla Townie, there are two ways you could know that for sure. If you are mafia (and therefore know I'm not one of you) or if you are the "sheriff". So, if I get lynched and I end up being a VT as I claim, then you would be free of much suspicion.

But you could know I was a vanilla townie and still be anti-town ... so me coming up clean doesn't really say anything about you.
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That is still a possibility true. But I know of a way to prevent people from thinking of me as anti-town. It would involve revealing even more information before the day is over. Nothing vital from my point of view, but information that I just can't see how a mafia player could have. Unless they got an investigative role too of sorts. Is that even possible for mafia to have that?


 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Alright I'm going to bed at 1 am and no later. 12 mins from now. If absolutely no one else posts their though, and unless Drixx have anything against me revealing his role name, I'll do that, leave my vote on zemaj before going to bed.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

korialstraz said:
Finally someone that can actually give a good reply. Yes I've been too focused on content, but for a very good reason. I know Drixx is pro-town, but I don't know of any abilities, so when he says he's VT I believe him. Also one of the reasons why I focused more on the content and not the reasons behind them. But I very much appreciate the tip, and will keep that in mind when progressing into this game and others in the future.
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As has been pointed out, there are a number of ways one might think someone is pro-town when they actually aren't. You probably need to answer some detailed questions if you want to keep both you and Drixx from being lynched. Unfortunately, answering those detailed questions probably makes it more likely either you or Drixx are night killed. Of course, if you are telling the truth, the night kill danger has already increased.

Uraj said:
Might as well give your full roleclaim with your name. Your name so that if scum don't get fake claims(which is usual) that they can't use yours. I hope the you'll get protection and that there isn't a role blocker. Did you check your sanity already? Even if you know your sanity, there's still the possibility of investigation immunity. I personally wouldn't have come forward to try to clear someone unless I had at least one guilty result.

I'm really curious to see what was inside that code now. If it was a basic message to a cop for who to investigate, I don't see what the harm is having that in the open.
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Or I could have said: What Uraj said. I'll quote it anyway. Additionally, I wouldn't have come forward today unless today's lynch seemed to be going to Drixx. That didn't seem to be the case.

Drixx said:
I didn't save the source text exactly, but it was a pretty vanilla message asking the sheriff to look into me.
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:banghead:

flubbucket said:
When did I say this?????
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You didn't specifically use the term theorycrafting. Instead you used "possible explanation" but didn't elaborate why you or anyone else would come to that possible explanation. It was yesterday, when you were talking about recruitment.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

As long as it doesn't violate the rules, feel free to reveal my role name. I think I've given enough clues in the post style. I'm also a fan of NCIS, although obviously not as good as a couple of the other posters here.
 
I'll buy it for now, and leave my vote on zemaj.

Do you want to tell us your n1 investigation in case you don't make it through the night? Your call.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'll check my PM to be on the safe side. Brb. I'll reply to you as well Gory.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

korialstraz said:
My views on all of this. If Drixx is lynched, I'm confirmed, and a HUGE target for mafia.
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You're already a gigantic target for mafia. Drixx's lynch does not alter this at all.

If Drixx is lynched and comes up pro-town, then you're looking more townie as a result, but not at all confirmed. After all, as mafia you probably already know that Drixx is town. But for the mafia to claim an alignment revealing power role is very risky, especially this early when people can counter claim.

korialstraz said:
and either me or Drixx is killed more or less confirming the other being townie.
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This actually sets off a couple alarm bells in my head. While it's true that you coming up dead would look slightly good for Drixx, Drixx coming up dead at night would actually make me suspect you being mafia even more.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

korialstraz said:
That is still a possibility true. But I know of a way to prevent people from thinking of me as anti-town. It would involve revealing even more information before the day is over. Nothing vital from my point of view, but information that I just can't see how a mafia player could have. Unless they got an investigative role too of sorts. Is that even possible for mafia to have that?
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Yes. It's possible, though uncommon, for mafia to have a role cop.

I'm caught up!@!!!!!!!!

preview edit: no I'm not. =(



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'll have to skip the votes. Too sleepy at this point.

@Drixx: Thanks for telling me to re-read the PM. I'm used to not have a restriction on revealing stuff from my PM apart from quoting it word from word.

In other words I cannot mention his role name. The wording of Gorny's PM leaves me worried though as to having revealed I know his role name. The way I read it when first recieving it, and the way I'm reading it now is I wouldn't break any rules by saying I know his role name, as long as I don't post it. But sending Gorny a PM to be sure. With that said.

@Gory: If I'm allive tomorrow, I'll answer all the questions I can, so long as it doesn't regard Drixx's role name. I'd also prefer not to role claim, but if everyone asks me to I will.

@CG: I never thought of it that way. But why NK someone that has so far caused a lot of confusion for the town? It'd be counter productive for them. But with this in mind the only reason I can see of coming out of this cleared is to lynch Drixx.

@kestegs: Thanks.


Made a huge blunder here, and while there shouldn't be an excuse for this, mine is lack of sleep due to my work situation and some other stuff going on. I won't go into details at this point, but it is as it is. Now if I'm not misstaken, both Drixx and Zemaj can still be locked for a lynch. I believe zemaj has the most votes still, so will leave mine on him and hope that if you decide to lynch Drixx instead, my vote won't be a deciding factor in getting him locked.
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

korialstraz said:
My thoughts exactly Mrs. Mallard. I have one question for you if you don't mind. Have you seen anyone acting strange as of late? Anything out of the ordinary?
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Well, there was something the nice Mr Dricks said, which I took the liberty of quoting below.

Drixx said:
Also, does anyone else find it weird that Sath cleared me yesterday but has now built an almost frantic case against me to save zemaj?
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Mr Sant-Maurice does have a tendency to be belligerent, but when he stubbornly insists on the worst possible interpretation and ignores any opinions to the contrary, I shake my head. Accusing someone of being a dangerous felon and then not listening to their defense is just plain rude. His mother should have raised him better. Heavens, why would he draw attention to himself like he has if he was a dangerous criminal? Why has no one considered that?

Caluin Graye said:
No, Drixx is right. By claiming, you've sealed his fate. Sorry, but he needs to be lynched to confirm you.
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Sorry, but I'm not sure I quite understand you. I may not know much about policework or prosthetic science like my son and his friends, but I don't follow why you should lynch someone to prove someone else was innocent. How would that work anyway? Mr Choral-Stewart could be one of the felons, and lynching poor Mr Dricks would prove nothing at all.

Can't we just leave them both be? There are many others we could look at, and if we watch and wait, the felons may have to take matters in their own hands and reveal if they told the truth. I sure hope it does not come to that, my youngest corgy took such a liking to Mr Stewart. I would hate to see them parted so soon, the poor dear has so few chances to meet new people. The nice man who was here yesterday seems to have left too, such a pity. I never caught his name, everyone just kept saying how badass he was.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Whomever has the doctor role should save korialstraz tonight. If someone can keep him from being injured or locked down or having his night role interfered with, that would also be helpful.

This should be done each night for 3-4 nights and then korialstraz will need to give us the information he has gained and be lynched to confirm his role claim slip up. Ideally the town can agree on people to check out.

Very wasteful for the town, and I'm quite sorry it's my fault it happened :(
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I've taken the liberty to do a vote count, since I know I was needing one and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This is by no means official. For what it's worth though, I started from the opening of the day, and my count was accurate with Gorny's when he last updated.

zemaj [11]: Ankeli; Korialstraz; Noammr; Gullik; Malevolent; Uraj; kestegs; Goryani; Gawihir; Asrrin; Noodle

drixx [6]: Caluin Graye; RlyehExiled; Sathoris; Valhouros; zemaj; flubbucket

flubbucket [1]: coju
 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Oh lord, sorry guys about such long time of inactivity. I was completely lazy yesterday and didn't feel like posting and today I just got finished helping out so I didn't have much time to do anything. I'll try to plow through all.... -.- 20 pages.... of posts (actually, I'm just going to skim through them), and try to maybe get a vote in, if it makes any difference. Now... gimme a good hour or so ^.^
 
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Caluin Graye said:
No, Drixx is right. By claiming, you've sealed his fate. Sorry, but he needs to be lynched to confirm you. After all, you could both be mafia and you're just trying to save your pal. We won't know until one of you two is lynched, and since he's the vanilla...
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Caluin Graye said:
You're already a gigantic target for mafia. Drixx's lynch does not alter this at all.

If Drixx is lynched and comes up pro-town, then you're looking more townie as a result, but not at all confirmed. After all, as mafia you probably already know that Drixx is town. But for the mafia to claim an alignment revealing power role is very risky, especially this early when people can counter claim.
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Added bolding.

You want to explain what caused your sudden change in opinion?



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

korialstraz said:
@Gory: If I'm allive tomorrow, I'll answer all the questions I can, so long as it doesn't regard Drixx's role name. I'd also prefer not to role claim, but if everyone asks me to I will.
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Just mentioning you know his role name answers many of the specific questions I was referring to, as that usually avoids the issues of sanity and godfather. The issue of two mafia working together and drawing this much attention to themselves D2 is still present, but so remote I'm not going to lose any sleep over it tonight. The issue of you being a mafia role cop (or just using the results of one) is also an issue, but outing yourself D2 is so remote is almost as unlikely as two mafia outing themselves D2.

@Feysal - I thought I'd get tired of it by now, but you continue to amaze me. We might need a name to name reference list sometime but I think I understand who you are referring to.



 
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Uraj said:
Added bolding.

You want to explain what caused your sudden change in opinion?
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Poor choice of wording. A more accurate statement should be "Drixx needs to be lynched to confirm your story." In the first quote, I'm not talking about his alignment, I'm talking about his claims towards Drixx.



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Caluin Graye said:
I've taken the liberty to do a vote count, since I know I was needing one and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This is by no means official. For what it's worth though, I started from the opening of the day, and my count was accurate with Gorny's when he last updated.

zemaj [11]: Ankeli; Korialstraz; Noammr; Gullik; Malevolent; Uraj; kestegs; Goryani; Gawihir; Asrrin; Noodle

drixx [6]: Caluin Graye; RlyehExiled; Sathoris; Valhouros; zemaj; flubbucket

flubbucket [1]: coju
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Drixx had a vote before Noodle on zemaj; post 516 did he change it again later?



 
Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

A little under 2 hours to go I think, i wont wait like i usually do and will cast a vote now.

Vote: zemaj
 
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