Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'd very much like to know how people view me. What reads you've gotten off me? As I'd very much like to put this whole shouting contest to rest so we can focus on something more productive?

Are you asking us to give a pro- or anti-town read? First day critique? Do you plan on changing your behavior this game due to criticism? Next game? Forgive me for being leery of answering this.

Ahh yea I didn't see Flip in the list because the name Flippy was used I guess. I've not no excuse for why I somehow included Asrrin, and had I caught on to that myself, I'd be the first to admit that slip up. Laarz I omited from the list on purpose due to the note from Gorny.

Why omit Laarz from questioning? Did he already tell you the answer last night?

Actually I read it very well. And just because someone is VT doesn't mean they can't try and send someone a message. You're just assuming that only a power role can have any information worthwile to keep the mafia from finding out. Maybe I'm just keeping a too open minded approach to the game, I don't know, but we've clearly viewed this in a vastly different ways

Don't focus on the content of the message. Focus on reasons why someone would send an encrypted message to quasi-specific roles. I'm having a hard time coming up with any scenario which isn't indistinguishable from mafia day talking. I've asked questions regarding receiving or sending of translators, but those questions have gone unanswered and don't qualify as vanilla townie. I'm running out of pro-town reasons to explain Drixx's behavior.

 

[Malevolent]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

revote either drix or zemaj there sath.

i was just letting people know that at the end of the day my vote WILL be placed.

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

... the idiotic Flubb...

So...I say sensible things I get ignored. I spew foolishness I get attention.

I know which button this chicken is gonna peck for food...:nod:

 

[Malevolent]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

:funnyabove:

thats all

 

[Gullik]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Regarding zemaj:
I believe his away story as I presume everyone has integrity enough to not lie about real life in a mafia game. I nevertheless still thinks he is the best lynch target, alongside corax, for all the early shenanigans.

Regarding drixx:
I would prefer to wait until tomorrow to decide on him so there has been some time for any fruit to come of his code things. If it was just to sow confusion I'm heading more towards it being some kind of anti-town gambit, than a town gambit.

I'll stay up a couple of hours and can change my vote if necessary, drixx down the drain is much better than a non-lynch day.

Some floating under the radar guys needs some prodding by a certain finger when I got plenty of energy and time.

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

fair enough

Holy batman explenation!

Just a bit of a tip, if you know something's coming up (say the camping trip), in my experience letting people know that is better than just sayng RL will take up a lot of time. I would've probably viewed your absence differently then. I'll have to re-read the first few pages again though to see if I end up changing my mind.

Consistent with what? I haven't seen much scumhunting from him, but I'm sure he eventually must. In a game this big I'm pretty sure there are two scumteams or an SK. He must find both.

There are 6 votes on Drixx now when Gorny changes my vote. If Coju doesn't change his vote on the idiotic Flubb and some of you change we can easily get Drixx lynched.

On a related note, PvtCaboose is facing modkill

In his defences, in making conversation (which he said was one of his goals) and hopefully we can use that to get some information on people participating in said discussion. Do you feel he's not been consistent with what he's been saying? I can't remember seeing him squirm a whole lot, and to me his posts seemed well thought out (with exception of the code thing).

I'll not be here for the last 4-5 hours before the lynch (phase ends at 4 am for me), but I'll be here until around 11-11.30 pm. Possibly midnight. And I'm not going to vote for Drixx.

Are you asking us to give a pro- or anti-town read? First day critique? Do you plan on changing your behavior this game due to criticism? Next game? Forgive me for being leery of answering this.

Yes I am asking that, and no I don't intend to change my behaviour. Probably should've asked a bit earlier because the answers won't make a difference now. But if you don't mind answering then please do go ahead and do so.

Why omit Laarz from questioning? Did he already tell you the answer last night?

Because IIRC he was up for mod-killing for not participating. He contacted Gorny and was excused for not posting. That to me is enough reason to not question him for not using his vote.

Don't focus on the content of the message. Focus on reasons why someone would send an encrypted message to quasi-specific roles. I'm having a hard time coming up with any scenario which isn't indistinguishable from mafia day talking. I've asked questions regarding receiving or sending of translators, but those questions have gone unanswered and don't qualify as vanilla townie. I'm running out of pro-town reasons to explain Drixx's behavior.

Finally someone that can actually give a good reply. Yes I've been too focused on content, but for a very good reason. I know Drixx is pro-town, but I don't know of any abilities, so when he says he's VT I believe him. Also one of the reasons why I focused more on the content and not the reasons behind them. But I very much appreciate the tip, and will keep that in mind when progressing into this game and others in the future.

 

[Gullik]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Finally someone that can actually give a good reply. Yes I've been too focused on content, but for a very good reason. I know Drixx is pro-town, but I don't know of any abilities, so when he says he's VT I believe him. Also one of the reasons why I focused more on the content and not the reasons behind them. But I very much appreciate the tip, and will keep that in mind when progressing into this game and others in the future.

Was it really necessary to claim that now, when it wasn't necessary today?

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I don't intend to be used as a smokescreen any longer. I've defended myself and remained consistent throughout, despite manipulation of my posts by others in an attempt to put words in my mouth.

We have about 6 more hours until this day ends. Sarth provided the "excuse" for a couple people to take their votes of zemaj and now it looks more and more like a no-lynch day ... if we end up vote locked again, we should look at folks who took flimsy excuses to avoid lynching Zemaj.

As for lynching me, that's really out of my hands, but as I said to start the post, I'm done being used as a smokescreen. Unless someone brings up an attack based upon a post or vote I make after this post, I'll simply ignore it, and I'd ask every other pro-town person to do the same.

I've made plenty of posts, and all of the attacks and manipulations of my posts to try and make me say things I didn't have already been made. There's more than enough there for you all to make up your minds. There's no further need to rehash it all and clog the thread up.

Therefore, it seems to me that anyone trying to use me to clog the thread up does not have the town's best interests at heart and should be looked at very carefully.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'm focused on getting the two scummiest players lynched early so we are that much closer to winning the game. No one else has really struck me a scummy as Zemaj and Drixx. After they both get lynched, I guess I'd start looking at Noodle for lurking, and some others for lurking, but no one else seems to ping my radar. Maybe because it's being overpowered by the scummy vibes from Drixx and zemaj.

Plus, as I mentioned in the signup thread, I'm out 8 hours of the day due to work, and another 8 hours for sleep, so I don't have nearly as much time as I did in my first few mafia games.

Was it really necessary to claim that now, when it wasn't necessary today?

Good catch. Certain knowledge claim is bad on day two.

There are only two avenues here now, and neither really is very good for the town. I almost certainly need to be lynched to determine whether his subtle role claim is true, and when you find me to be a townie, he will be night killed because of his role claim.

My life was almost not savable, there was no purpose in that

Also, does anyone else find it weird that Sarth cleared me yesterday but has now built an almost frantic case against me to save zemaj?

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'm getting quite used to that from this whole affair...

I've asked you questions and the response I got back were along the lines of "I was just theorycrafting." I was going to respond to your comment about CG being switched with a busdriver but I expected I would have just received "I was just theorycrafting" in response.

Incidentally, about CG being bussed...

Normally, only the busderiver and killer would know whether or not CG was bussed. Who was your real target N1?

the above is directed at everyone voting for me but was "waiting for a post" from me, aside from Ankeli who just wants me dead so he can have my bones to gnaw on, not just those quoted. They were just the easiest for me to quote atm.

One of the reasons you voted Ankeli was because you said he was a lame duck player. Turns out you were the lame duck player. Scum are more likely to be hypocrites than townies. Furthermore, you make a lot of "I don't know what you want me to say/do" posts. Those are almost identical to "What would you do in this scenario" posts, which are a scum tell almost every time it doesn't involve specific night action targets. Lastly, you quoted my root canal joke but didn't laugh at it.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

And supergah ... my quote of Asrrin above was simply to ask this question: What do you think if both zemaj and I turn up to be pro-town?

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

well... it is now the time I said I would roleclaim (phase-change -6hrs)

however, things have changed a bit since then... I am still leading for a lynch, but the winds are shifting slightly & as such, I think it prudent to hold off for the moment. An official vote-count would be extremely helpful in this decision. (hint. hint)

Either roleclaim or don't roleclaim. You have essentially told the game that you have a special role but conveniently you decided not to reveal it even though you are still the leading candidate for lynch.

 

[Kestegs]

Either roleclaim or don't roleclaim. You have essentially told the game that you have a special role but conveniently you decided not to reveal it even though you are still the leading candidate for lynch.

Now who's putting words in who's mouth?

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Now who's putting words in who's mouth?

But I'm not. In the post he referred to he said he would roleclaim at 6 hours before the end of the day. In his most recent post he also reiterates that he would roleclaim but uses the fact that he might not get lynched as an excuse to not roleclaim.

If his role claim is "I'm a vanilla townie" then there is no reason to withold it, is there? Therefore, his witholding of a role claim is a statement that he has a special role, or that he wants us to think he does.

And I didn't put words in his mouth. That's when you say someone said something they never said or try to manipulate something someone said to make it say something they never said.

 

[Sathoris]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

revote either drix or zemaj there sath.

i was just letting people know that at the end of the day my vote WILL be placed.

Erm I know, that was why I posted that you were announcing you were willing to throw your buddy under the buss.

Regarding zemaj:
I believe his away story as I presume everyone has integrity enough to not lie about real life in a mafia game. I nevertheless still thinks he is the best lynch target, alongside corax, for all the early shenanigans.

Please, do put your reason into better words. Because this isn't it.

In his defences, in making conversation (which he said was one of his goals) and hopefully we can use that to get some information on people participating in said discussion. Do you feel he's not been consistent with what he's been saying?

He's been consistent in wasting our time and defending himself. His 'making conversation' involved OMGUSing like crazy and then ending up defending himself. A true townie would make conversation by scumhunting. He has NOT been doing that.

There hasn't been a single pro-town action in his play.

We have about 6 more hours until this day ends. Sarth provided the "excuse" for a couple people to take their votes of zemaj

Excuse? Proving that a bull**** case is bull**** to avoid a town lynch is an excuse?

Therefore, it seems to me that anyone trying to use me to clog the thread up does not have the town's best interests at heart and should be looked at very carefully.

Funny you should say that, you've clogged up the thread like a madman..

I know Drixx is pro-town

Did you consider the possibility that Drixx was posting a lot to get noticed?

 

[Kestegs]

But I'm not. In the post he referred to he said he would roleclaim at 6 hours before the end of the day. In his most recent post he also reiterates that he would roleclaim but uses the fact that he might not get lynched as an excuse to not roleclaim.

If his role claim is "I'm a vanilla townie" then there is no reason to withold it, is there? Therefore, his witholding of a role claim is a statement that he has a special role, or that he wants us to think he does.

And I didn't put words in his mouth. That's when you say someone said something they never said or try to manipulate something someone said to make it say something they never said.

So you think everyone who is a VT should just claim it now? That's scum 101 right there. Process of elimination says if your not a VT and not Mafia your a power role. Helllloooo night kill targets!

A VT is a roleclaim, a roleclaim that you yourself did. Don't act like you don't know what you said, its insulting.

I'll be around at day end, just fyi.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I never said anything about a power role... I was letting others make their own assumptions, which you did. Many thanks.

if you see my above post responding to Gory, you will see my thought process... and luckily I am slow enough at posting to have made my trick work. Again, many thanks.

Like I said. If you are a vanilla townie, there's no reason to withhold your role claim now. Since you are withholding, there's only two options. You're either scum or a special townie. You painted yourself into this corner. If you don't claim, then we're left to assume you are scum and sowing confusion intentionally.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

So you think everyone who is a VT should just claim it now? That's scum 101 right there. Process of elimination says if your not a VT and not Mafia your a power role. Helllloooo night kill targets!

A VT is a roleclaim, a roleclaim that you yourself did. Don't act like you don't know what you said, its insulting.

I'll be around at day end, just fyi.

The guy said he would roleclaim at 6 hours till, and then makes a scummy post at that time ...

I never said everyone should roleclaim. I said ZEMAJ should roleclaim, becuase he said he would, and then backed out at the last second. He painted himself into this corner, and people rushing to his defense warrant a careful look.

 

[Kestegs]

The guy said he would roleclaim at 6 hours till, and then makes a scummy post at that time ...

I never said everyone should roleclaim. I said ZEMAJ should roleclaim, becuase he said he would, and then backed out at the last second. He painted himself into this corner, and people rushing to his defense warrant a careful look.

So you think he should have still roleclaimed even if he isn't as likely to be lynched? Your awful eager for that roll claim.

 

[Malevolent]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Role claims mean nothing.

I could claim that i was an astronaught but nobody would beleive me, if you think that all VT's should claim then it won't work, EVERYBODY want's to be a VT in everybody elses eyes.