Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Okay it's not smart to consider the attack was perp'd by an NPC. Gorny will have all actions scripted by people (US DANG IT!!!) in the game. Why do things otherwise?

Let's focus...

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

You may be right(concerning sarcasm.)

I don't feel like digging up where I found scum in your posts, but others saw it also. Your logic on waiting towards the end of day to lock someone is perfectly fine. It's just once I unvote, you proceed to vote again, throwing your logic out of the water. Do I need to say IMO?

At the last of your quote, "Most of my posts have been defending myself from posts accusing me." you defended yourself at the beginning of D2 without any notions of being attacked. Almost as if you knew the nights actions would lead to you. Defending yourself before hand is a great play of cards. I'll learn a lot from the way you've played drixx.

(If you care for some awesome music, relating to the post: 2:30-4:30 for the whole thing. 3:28-4-ish for relevance.)

Well, I meant to head to bed 90 minutes ago ... I really do need to go pretty soon here. Given my class schedule tomorrow it's very possible I won't have a lot of time tomorrow to interact, and right now I don't see a better target to vote for than Zemaj.

And, if a large portion of the first day was devoted to people trying to convince others that you were a bad guy, wouldn't you be worried when someone you had gone back and forth with ended up wounded or dead?

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ankeli, in post #451 you quote me saying, "There is not too much to lose role wise if lynched Drixx, since he's claimed VT. Zemaj's role could be worse to lose if we're wrong. We might be able to replace zemaj if he's actually busy in RL and not just avoiding posting. "

I never said that. Uraj said it, in post #448.

Wow. That's some horribad quoting Ankeli. (too lazy to quote what Ankeli said)

Because I'm embarassed that I posted it in the first place. As far as sure someone has cracked it ... a few of us have gotten the other codes in the thread, and mine is based on a very simple method.

One code was straight Google searchable. The other code used was a repeat of a game in which one person spoke in code while two players received translators to said code. The base64 link posted by Uraj was the same link used by the mod in the that game. Gorny was the player given the post restriction in that game. The girlfriend of the mod had to post the base 64 translator lest Gorny be lynched simply for having such a horrible post restriction. If you had posted your encrypted text early on D1, you would have most assuredly been lynched simply for posting the encrypted text without a translator.

Random clip from Witch Hunt, pay attention when Gibbs walks in and says "Gear up."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXRAiNanEQI&feature=related

I tried so hard looking for a good avatar of Elf Lord. Never could find one that showed up well. I'd give a get-out-of-a-Goryani-vote token to anyone who finds me one.

I don't get the impression we have a jail keeper. Or, at least, that's not what happened to me. A jail keeper typically only shuts you down for the evening, not the whole day period afterword. Additionally, a jail keeper is usually associated with town - I was definitely attacked by an anti-town element.

A failed kill attempt doesn't normally shut down the intended victim the whole day afterword either. Furthermore, a killer attempting to kill you doesn't preclude a jailkeeper trying to protect you.

 

[Caluin Graye]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Probably this post from Malevolent.

Ah, that does make sense. Thank you for that. Suspicion on that particular point retracted.

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Sarcasm and mockery may be intended to make the target look bad, but in the end you only demean yourself.

If you disagree with my assertion, please explain how I am wrong. I assert that: If we lock the lynch vote, then everyone who has not voted gets a pass on today. They don't have to vote and won't be viewed suspiciously at all for not voting. Anyone who hasn't posted anything will also get a free pass on today. They can simply show up and make their minimum posts for the day without saying anything of substance, and since the lynch is already decided for the day, they also get a pass.

Is my logic bad in there somewhere?

I can categorically state your assertions are wrong and your logic is bad. Vote history matters.

Look no further than the last game played: Commencement Mafia (Inception themed). Almost every single day, non-voters and non-votes were used as a means of deciding who deserved lynch. Ask Caluin Graye how his non votes worked out that game. Vote history is the most basic of scum hunting, and that includes non-votes as well as votes.

And yes, I've played with different crowds. Generally someone who doesn't interact with the game early on is viewed with great suspicion. It seems that here if you do interact with the game, you're viewed with great suspicion. Most of my posts have been defending myself from posts accusing me.

Yes, lurking is deemed suspicious. The opposite is also true, and is termed lurking in plain sight.

The posts 'defending yourself' are caused because you set out to put players on the defensive and get them to confront you in order to make more posts or longer posts. You berated Uraj for not doing so yet bragged about the incident afterword. I feel no sympathy for you when your plan was successful. If you intend to piss people off, don't be surprised they do just that.

 

[Ankeli1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ankeli, in post #451 you quote me saying, "There is not too much to lose role wise if lynched Drixx, since he's claimed VT. Zemaj's role could be worse to lose if we're wrong. We might be able to replace zemaj if he's actually busy in RL and not just avoiding posting. "

I never said that. Uraj said it, in post #448.

The forums are acting up! I most certainly did not just cut off the wrong bits, no sir! (Yeah, my bad.)

I nearly had a stroke when you said that word. Never forgive. Never forget. VENDETTA.

Let the Gman rest while hugging onto his glorious, tear flavored tasty victory.

This whole issue with zemaj / Drixx has pretty much gone out of proportions, and we really need to sort it out one way or another before we can focus on anything else. I for one am finding it very hard to make anything of peoples' posts for / against them unless I get to know their role(s), and I doubt I'm the only one.

Just lock the lynch on zemaj, if we're wrong we'll get to Drixx tomorrow, and if we're wrong again we'll still have amples of time left to weed out the real mafia before the time runs out if the killings stay at one per night.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I can categorically state your assertions are wrong and your logic is bad. Vote history matters.

Except ... once the lynch is LOCKED for the day, there is no further need for voting, and it would be strange to hold someone's non-vote against them at that point, wouldn't it?

I'm not sure you actually understood the point I was making.

 

[RlyehExiled]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

This entire day seems to be Drixx bashing heads with people constantly, that's all that seems to be happening.

His flip-flop-flip, seems so weird, also if Zemaj was quickhammered and turned out to be town, we'd of baited a scum and go for the quickhammerer, backing off then firing again as soon as someone else backs off, just doesn't taste right with me ethier.

Is Zemaj at L-1? By my count he is, if you're going/want to hammer him let him claim first.

But I think Drixx has to go, he's been my #1 for a long time, but now he's just dominating the thread by pushing on anything/everything to start headbashing contests with seemingly everyone. His playstyle is strangling the town which isn't good for the town, and the longer he lives the longer this 'Drixx vs the world' shouting match continues.

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Except ... once the lynch is LOCKED for the day, there is no further need for voting, and it would be strange to hold someone's non-vote against them at that point, wouldn't it?

I'm not sure you actually understood the point I was making.

It's not strange at all. I understood perfectly and I reiterate that non-voters of locked votes are questioned about non-voting and are still held accountable. Non-votes becomes part of the body of evidence for/against one's alignment. If nothing else, a question like this arises: How come you didn't vote for Mr. Mafia/Mr. PowerRole yesterday? The non-voter will then have to ignore the question or give an answer. The rest of the town can judge the veracity of the answer in determining whom to lynch.

Locking is an issue if it causes conversation to stop, but isn't an issue because not everyone voted. Also, in case you weren't aware, in our group, locks are pretty rare. No-lynches happen much more often than locks.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

It's not strange at all. I understood perfectly and I reiterate that non-voters of locked votes are questioned about non-voting and are still held accountable. Non-votes becomes part of the body of evidence for/against one's alignment. If nothing else, a question like this arises: How come you didn't vote for Mr. Mafia/Mr. PowerRole yesterday? The non-voter will then have to ignore the question or give an answer. The rest of the town can judge the veracity of the answer in determining whom to lynch.

Locking is an issue if it causes conversation to stop, but isn't an issue because not everyone voted. Also, in case you weren't aware, in our group, locks are pretty rare. No-lynches happen much more often than locks.

But ... the days are two days long. You're basically saying that anyone who gets busy or waits until the 2nd RL day to decide how to vote (and therefore comes in after the lock) should be considered suspect for that reason alone?

It's gonna be interesting to read this thread through again once it's over and watch what the anti-townies did ... should provide a lot of insight into how games go around here.

I pretty much feel like I'm done today or the next day cycle, which makes me :sadface: ... guess I'll sit back and watch next time.

 

[Gullik]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

But ... the days are two days long. You're basically saying that anyone who gets busy or waits until the 2nd RL day to decide how to vote (and therefore comes in after the lock) should be considered suspect for that reason alone?

Won't they be kinda suspect now as well, since we are just short of a lock so the latecomers can't vote now anyway.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Well... so far the game is true to its name. I don't think anyone really has done anything to warrant true suspicion. But, the town really must lynch, as that's the only power we have.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to specifically say anything more than this, so I'll just say this. I'm a townie without any special powers. If the town needs to waste a day and kill me because certain people refuse to believe that or because certain folks are either wittingly or unwittingly prolonging the back and forth with me and providing a smokescreen for the anti-townies ... then so be it.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Gah. Curses to the no edit rule. Pain pill has kicked in so it's well and truly time to sleep. Good night to all.

 

[Ankeli1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I pretty much feel like I'm done today or the next day cycle, which makes me :sadface: ... guess I'll sit back and watch next time.

It's things like this that make you seem off more than anything. You're submitting even though you're far from getting lynched today, and have an ample chance to fight it tomorrow.

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I'd very much like to know how people view me. What reads you've gotten off me? As I'd very much like to put this whole shouting contest to rest so we can focus on something more productive?


I see some people quoted me, and not enough time to reply right now (again at work and heading out to help people). But I will apologize for messing up on who voted and who didn't. Tired after work last night, and that the full names of people in the vote count didn't help. Although that's no excuse for uncluding Asrrin in the no-vote category.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

It's things like this that make you seem off more than anything. You're submitting even though you're far from getting lynched today, and have an ample chance to fight it tomorrow.

Every time I make a post defending myself, there are several more quotes piling on and complaining that I post too much and that my defensive posts make me look bad.

While it was my wish to get discussion going, it's not my wish to dominate said discussion.

 

[Feysal]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

@ Feysal: Mrs. Mallard I presume?

Why yes, pleased to meet you! Have you met my son? He is a medical examiner in the NIS. They call him Ducky, because of some cartoon character, or so he tells me.

I'd very much like to know how people view me. What reads you've gotten off me? As I'd very much like to put this whole shouting contest to rest so we can focus on something more productive?

You seem like an upstanding citizen. I wish the others did not shout so much and kept their heads as cool. With so many bright young people gathered here, there really should be more voices of reason, instead of everyone talking at once.

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Asrrin and Flip both voted. PvtCaboose didn't. You also missed Laarz, who didn't vote either.

Ahh yea I didn't see Flip in the list because the name Flippy was used I guess. I've not no excuse for why I somehow included Asrrin, and had I caught on to that myself, I'd be the first to admit that slip up. Laarz I omited from the list on purpose due to the note from Gorny.

I find your posts interesting Mr Bucket, so dont stop. Here's some Maker's you can sip, while you ponder on this, does there seem to be a connection between korial and drixx? korial sure doing alot of of exsplainin what drixx is saying and meaning.

I've just realized my misstake in doing so, and it's not the first time either. Have done exactly the same in a previous game IIRC. Shame on me I know.

Korial - To answer your Q from post 399 (even though Flub has already mentioed it)

I did vote for Coju (and on your list) following Drixx & Noodle's lead as I thought it was the way the train was going. I could have switched my vote to Zemaj to make it 6 but since it didn't really make a difference I figured it was a moot point.

I also would like to hear from those who didn't vote at all!

Fair enough explenation. And sorry about the misstake, I didn't notice you were on the list as Flippy as opposed to Flip or just your whole username.

I'm still waiting for more people to reply to my question. I understand there's some errors in my post, but the question still stands for all those who voted on the least active lynchwagon. Especially those with votes on someone that only had 1-2 votes on them from before.

You seem like an upstanding citizen. I wish the others did not shout so much and kept their heads as cool. With so many bright young people gathered here, there really should be more voices of reason, instead of everyone talking at once.

My thoughts exactly Mrs. Mallard. I have one question for you if you don't mind. Have you seen anyone acting strange as of late? Anything out of the ordinary?

 

[Asrrin]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

I somewhat agree with this assessment of Asrrin's play. He has added a few bits against you, but hasn't shared any views on other players. The only exception being zemaj whom he claimed had a lot of early scum tells but was overall kinda vague.

I'm focused on getting the two scummiest players lynched early so we are that much closer to winning the game. No one else has really struck me a scummy as Zemaj and Drixx. After they both get lynched, I guess I'd start looking at Noodle for lurking, and some others for lurking, but no one else seems to ping my radar. Maybe because it's being overpowered by the scummy vibes from Drixx and zemaj.

Plus, as I mentioned in the signup thread, I'm out 8 hours of the day due to work, and another 8 hours for sleep, so I don't have nearly as much time as I did in my first few mafia games.

 

[Kestegs]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

This entire day seems to be Drixx bashing heads with people constantly, that's all that seems to be happening.

His flip-flop-flip, seems so weird, also if Zemaj was quickhammered and turned out to be town, we'd of baited a scum and go for the quickhammerer, backing off then firing again as soon as someone else backs off, just doesn't taste right with me ethier.

Is Zemaj at L-1? By my count he is, if you're going/want to hammer him let him claim first.

But I think Drixx has to go, he's been my #1 for a long time, but now he's just dominating the thread by pushing on anything/everything to start headbashing contests with seemingly everyone. His playstyle is strangling the town which isn't good for the town, and the longer he lives the longer this 'Drixx vs the world' shouting match continues.

This is pretty much my feelings, the bolded part especially. If he truly is a VT with no powers he is just confusing the town. I fear if he is around for D3 then no matter what the night actions are on N3, that it will all relate to Drixx and we will end up with another 300 post day where everything just gets lost in the shuffle of Drixx's posts. No matter what his role PM says, he is playing as anti-town right now.