Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

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All Mafia and no beer make Flip something something.........

I vote for drunks posts, or I might not be able to keep in with the 2 posts per "day". ;)
I am partial to caffeine too but not in the evening. I'm on US/Mountain Time -6 GMT I beleive.

Wow- Lots of votes for the first few hours of the game.
Quite a few players I haven't played with or experianced play style.

Ank came out guns blazing (like normal).

Corax switching votes does seem odd, but it is the first day.
Zemaj revenge voting Ank.

Those two seem to be the front-runners of a train but it's early in the day yet.
 
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I will say that I assume Valhouros is clean. He broke the code of flubby's post restriction, and making more information public to the town is never in scum's best interest.
 
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Sorry, a late start and Yom Kippur coming in will limit the amount of posts you'll see from me today...I have, however, managed to catch up so far. Will make an effort to check in whenever I can but my posts will probably be short and to the point.

if you really think I am scum, lynch me & find out what the deal is (because that worked out so well last time, as some will remember, I assume).

Like Asrrin, I'm loath to side with Ankeli but talk about hitting every scum tell. I wasn't here for last time but that's an awful defense line you went for right there.
Vote: zemaj

Don't forget we need 13 votes needed to lynch, folks. If we fail to get a lynch today I'll be coming after anyone who doesn't put their vote where their mouth is.

Flubbucket has an obvious post restriction, which probably means he's aligned with the Town. I searched for some of the words and found that the language is called "Al Bhed"; it uses a substitution cipher and pertains to the games Final Fantasy X and its sequel. Here is a translator, and here you can find more information about it. Now that we know how to decode it, I wonder if the host will continue using this language for the posts restrictions. Anyway, onto Fub's messages:

Flubbucket's "Yhudran vyldeuh luimt ymcu pa nalniedan. Drixx ouin juda ec hud jymet":
"Another faction could also be recruiter. Drixx your vote is not valid."

Flubbucket's "Oac. E ryja y bucd nacdneldeuh yht Drixx's (#49) ec hud jymet":
"Yes. I have a post restriction and Drixx's (#49) is not valid."

Props for that, Val. I managed to read Flubbie's posts with a brute-force cryptogram solver but your solution is much better.

Other than that, pretty sure Drixx's vote is legit, voting format isn't all that strict (which is good, as it was unnecessarily so before).

Vote: Feysal

Too quiet to be town :whistling:

*Some quip involving pots and kettles*


 
Don't forget we need 13 votes needed to lynch, folks. If we fail to get a lynch today I'll be coming after anyone who doesn't put their vote where their mouth is.

If I'm not convinced that the Lynch target is a good one I'm not going to vote for them. I'm not saying I don't see any reasonable targets, but I'm not jumping on a random Lynch train in fear of the "wrath of noammr."

Basically, I don't agree with your vote bullying.


 
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I will say that I assume Valhouros is clean. He broke the code of flubby's post restriction, and making more information public to the town is never in scum's best interest.

I wouldn't be so sure Noodle. What better way to earn nearly blanket immunity from suspicion? At this point it's just something to note and look back to.

Why wouldn't my vote count? The rule simply says for it to be in bold, without any other guidelines.

Finally:

How long has it been since you played mafia?

I haven't played a forum game in awhile, but I play in realtime regularly.

Have you ever played as mafia or anti-town?

I've played as mafia previously, although no experience with other anti-town roles.

Have you ever won a game as mafia or anti-town?

Yes. Frequently. A well played mafia round can be absolutely epic and memorable.

What was the most memorable, weirdest, or otherwise noteworthy
game/role/scenario you have ever seen while playing mafia?

Well, in a realtime game I once convinced the town to turn on the Godfather late in the game when the suspicion was on me (the mob boss) and the Godfather was skating clean. This was a face to face game of about 50 people with roughly 17 or 18 left at the time. This action got me to the final few who refused to suspect me since I had "nailed" the Godfather earlier in the game. The look of shock on their faces when we lynched the 2nd to last townie and it was just me and a townie left ... priceless.

There's just something great about the game when it clicks and a great round unfolds. They often reach levels of subtlety that only Dr. Mallard would enjoy.



 
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FFS 30min post lost to 404 page not found error. *sigh* Ah well here we go again.

1. How long has it been since you played mafia?
2. Have you ever played as mafia or anti-town?
3. Have you ever won a game as mafia or anti-town?
4. What was the most memorable, weirdest, or otherwise noteworthy game/role/scenario you have ever seen while playing mafia?


1. I told the truth of this one, it's been 2005 since I last played online. I play games of traitor in real life, which has a similar find the scum mechanic. Also since playing inception.mafia.game, I signed up to mafiascum.net and play there too (although 3 week days = slow games).

2. Obviously, you have to play as the bad guys when you play a lot. Although inception was my first time online as mafia. Played as SK once back in the day too.

3. RL: Yeah, got the key as the evil wizard/traitor in traitor a few times (should probably read up on the game: http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/41541/are-you-the-traitor). I also "won" as mafia last game, depending if you see that game mechanic as a win or not. Played as SK once back in the day, but didn't win.

4. Mafia of the dead, and Village Drunk post restriction still stands. Inception was the most confusing game I've ever played, although reading old games here schoolyard mafia looks confusing with everyone being able to drive.

Good WIFOM moves and sanity issues tagged to roles is why I keep playing. I've seen some dumb moves in mafia too, like vanilla townies power role claim at L-2 to not die, and get counter claimed by another VT, that ended in them both getting lynched but *shrug*.

Anyway I got to dash, I'll catch up on the new posts more properly tomorrow.
 
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If I'm not convinced that the Lynch target is a good one I'm not going to vote for them. I'm not saying I don't see any reasonable targets, but I'm not jumping on a random Lynch train in fear of the "wrath of noammr."

Basically, I don't agree with your vote bullying.

Pfft, bullying?
Don't twist my words- I didn't say "vote for who I want you to vote", I said "put your vote where your mouth is". As in choose the best lynch in your opinion and go for it...If you disagree with current bandwagons start one of your own.

Too many people scared of 'sticking their neck out' by accidentally supporting a town lynch helps the mafia keep low profile and the town stay uninformed, especially early on.


 
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Do we need to have the mechanics discussion to show whether a lynch should happen each day or not? I think this one was put to rest quite a long time ago, but you never know.
 
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lynch should happen EVERY day, otherwise the game won't get going properly and the mafia basically got last night for free.


just my 2 cents
 
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Oh, I'm not confident in any way. It's just the best assumption I can currently make given what I've seen so far.

Yeah ... it definitely is way to the good. But I found the translation within a few moments of the gibberish going up and kept that to myself. It is possible that the anti-town elements may never have been able to find out how to translate it and it could have been a big advantage if used correctly.

Now it's basically a player we won't lynch and the anti-town won't bother to kill simply because everyone knows he's a townie with a weird ability. With the translator linked for everyone, it's just an added layer to interacting with that one player.

I'd have rather kept things quiet and perhaps gotten some use out of the ability.



 
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Props for that, Val. I managed to read Flubbie's posts with a brute-force cryptogram solver but your solution is much better.

Other than that, pretty sure Drixx's vote is legit, voting format isn't all that strict (which is good, as it was unnecessarily so before).

You knew but didn't tell us? Not that his post were that important, but are there any rationale behind keeping it to yourself?


 
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You knew but didn't tell us? Not that his post were that important, but are there any rationale behind keeping it to yourself?

What? No, that was my first post today, made as soon as I finished reading the thread. If Val hadn't posted the translator I would've shared my findings...unlike someone else here.

Drixx- would you explain how flub's restriction 'could have been a big advantage' if only you had it figured out? I really don't get the logic of keeping such a thing to yourself.


 
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Yeah ... it definitely is way to the good. But I found the translation within a few moments of the gibberish going up and kept that to myself. It is possible that the anti-town elements may never have been able to find out how to translate it and it could have been a big advantage if used correctly.

Now it's basically a player we won't lynch and the anti-town won't bother to kill simply because everyone knows he's a townie with a weird ability. With the translator linked for everyone, it's just an added layer to interacting with that one player.

I'd have rather kept things quiet and perhaps gotten some use out of the ability.
I apparently didn't read the last pages closely enough since I missed the whole mentioning of this topic before I posted the last post.

Wouldn't it be a larger chance for a town player not to know what it meant, as only 1 of the mafia needs to find it out while all the townie players need to find it out. I would rather like everyone to know it rather than all-mafia and some-town to know it.

As for the mafia experiences questions; I've never played mafia before so basically no to all of them.


 
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As I said before, I think the ability is a wash. I guess my question would be whether it is a targeted ability. i.e. will someone each day get instructions to use a certain code for their posts?

If it's a targeted ability, then it really doesn't tell us much. If it is an ability that is tied to the same person all game, then it's either a useless tack-on or it would take some cleverness to use it for the town's sake. As it is now, if it is a permanent thing, it doesn't seem likely to have much effect.
 
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I second this, if his defence isn't something brilliant thought then i will vote for him.

So you'd vote for someone just because his defence on basically a bull**** case isn't good enough. I'm sorry sir but I'll much rather take a no lynch today. It's not a lost day. Power role's got information. Scum want an extra dead townie though.

In fact I'd go for lynching you but then I'd be doing the same thing that I'm trying to lynch you for.


 
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Seriously, why would someone softclaim mafia? To let the other mafia's know (whom already knows he is mafia)? Mafia prob doesn't think of themselves as a family, unless they have watched to much Sopranos, so it couldn't slip anything out that way.

There is an anti-town role known as the traitor that is allied with mafia but whom the mafia doesn't know.

Now it's basically a player we won't lynch and the anti-town won't bother to kill simply because everyone knows he's a townie with a weird ability. With the translator linked for everyone, it's just an added layer to interacting with that one player.

I'd have rather kept things quiet and perhaps gotten some use out of the ability.

Explain why if it's a player we wouldn't lynch that then the mafia would also not kill them? It seems that is exactly a case where the mafia would want to kill them.

What use is a post restriction by itself?



 
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  1. How long has it been since you played mafia?
  2. Have you ever played as mafia or anti-town?
  3. Have you ever won a game as mafia or anti-town?
  4. What was the most memorable, weirdest, or otherwise noteworthy game/role/scenario you have ever seen while playing mafia?

I'd like for a lot of players to answer these questions. Don't make me name names.

1. Quite a while. I think my last game was the Futurama themed one on here. Guess it's getting close to a year ago or so give or take a few months.

2. Played as mafia once, which was the Stargate themed one. The faction I was in did a terrible job then though. Got WAY too greedy.

3. Nope.

4. Haven't played a whole lot, but to me the professor from Futurama game was pretty fun, and one that sticks out to me (maybe because the dooms day device derived from said professor blew me into tiny shiny metal parts). Basically he could make items and give them out to players (town or otherwise). Can't recall if it was at specific times in the games, limited number of times or what. Might've been a limited number only though, and once per night until the inventions were all used up.

Mafia win condition is usually to wipe out everyone except members of the same mafia. This includes any other mafia or anti-town. If the town is wiped out but two factions of mafia remain, the game should continue until one side wins.



Just don't make the Gamblers Fallacy of citing Occam's Razor during Lylo.

The what now? :crazyeyes:

I'll just nod and pretend I understood that. :nod:


 
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