Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Vote:Thundercat....oac


Vote=Thundercat....hu

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Ok, so this is kinda nice. I thought I was going to miss the beginning of the day because I'd be out all night observing, but it turns out the start time is 10:00pm EST, which is great.

How lucky of us that you were able to make it home in time to contribute at the start of the day. Oh, wait...

Id say...that Caluins alibi was a little...

holey

Which alibi are you referring to?

I'd say it's some game mechanic for the theme, he's also effeictly been dentisted, as he can't post or vote. Which can be a pretty powerful ability later on.

[nitpick]Some doctors can kill

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=CPR_doctor[/nitpick]

Phases change for me at 3am, which I also see as a good time ^_^:yes:

RQS:

1) What time do phases change for everyone? (or what time zone are you in)

You're super talkative this game. How about you take a stab at the RQS questions I asked you last game, since the answers you gave seem to be not entirely correct.

Also, what exactly is a dentist? I couldn't find it on mafiascum's wiki.

Also, 9pm here: same as Gorny.

I think its a bit too early to assume 2 mafia... more likely a SK (or something) + mafia. I do certainly hope that Dentist idea isn't the case. Not only is that a horrible power if used wrong, but I just hate dentists in general. (damn sadistic bastards!)

As has been said, SK's normally can't kill N1. However, Gorny has modded a game in which a SK not only could kill, but was required to kill N1. Six of one and half a dozen of another.

"Horrible power if used wrong" assumes things that may not be true. What is the right way to use the dentist power if the dentist is pro-town? Anti-town?

Two. Two pages. A ha ha ha ha.

 

[Drixx]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Zemaj is definitely pinging my scum radar like nobody's business. Thing is though, he's pretty much hitting every obvious scum tell. I find it hard to believe that real mafia would manage to be that obvious, unless he was a total newb. Zemaj, how many mafia games have you played?

To me it seems like a bit too much also, hence the vote.

 

[Kestegs]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

unaletered. i think is the word.

well i think it's 1pm change over for me if mal is right on his time.

also

vote: kestegs

Policy vote is policy vote, nothing scummy about it. The next vote on coju is the one that seems like a real stretch, scum points for that one.

So wait. Nobody died last night so what do we have to be suspicious of yet?

Really? Well lets just write today completely off since no one died, lets wait until tomorrow when (possibly) two people could die to start playing the game. We have 2 likely attacks, one with a name, we have plenty to go on.

Thank you! I was trying to wrap my head around all those acronyms, and my mind is all fuzzy like now.

*clicks link*

Guessing a post restriction.

Could be a different language perhaps? Although can't say I recognize any of the words. But definately something to do with Drixx's post. I can't speak for everyone, but to me Drixx's post didn't really set off my scum radar. Then again I've mostly skimmed through the thread so far.

That would be your third post without any real information in it, for not keeping up on the game yet and not being able to post any real theory's you sure are reading and posting a lot. scummy points for you.

Dammit Ankeli, I hate when you are right. I've been wanting to see you lynched for several games now!

Zemaj is definitely pinging my scum radar like nobody's business. Thing is though, he's pretty much hitting every obvious scum tell. I find it hard to believe that real mafia would manage to be that obvious, unless he was a total newb. Zemaj, how many mafia games have you played?

I'll jump, on the bandwagon for him unless he has a really good reason, but I want to hear from him first.

I agree with this. Zemaj pinged my scum radar hard on that one, so I can't really blame ankeli for going after him. I do believe this is his first game here at least. I made some pretty rookie mistakes in my first game as well and got lynched as a townie on D1. Lets give him a chance to respond before we get too excited about this.

To me it seems like a bit too much also, hence the vote.

Eager to jump on the train with little information? check.

 

[Gullik]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Flubby could you say something longer than what you have posted previously?

I want to have a go at what you are saying and I can't make anything at all out of what I'm seeing now.

 

[RlyehExiled]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

@Gory: I'm amazed dentist isn't in the wiki as it comes in some of the card game versions of mafia.

A dentist is a (usually anti-town) who can at night remove the teeth of a player, stopping him from posting (and usually voting if online, in RL he can use hand gestures to vote). However when I originally said 'dentisted' I meant the fact he couldn't talk, not necessrly that there was a dentist at work.

What RQS from last game? The mafia experience ones?

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

We're not told who was shot and lived, but we're told who was maimed?
Only reason I can think of is: there's a guy whos NK immune and by not voicing his ability keeps him an open target for other anti-town factions.

It's bad manners not to publicly announce a day long post embargo. I think we get Caluin Graye's name because he can't post today and due to all the questions which will surely arise otherwise. I think anyone receiving such a restriction will likewise get mentioned by name in the daily stories.

In the most vanilla brands of the game, both the doctor and the SK use a scalpel so that a tracker of some sorts can misidentify one as the other. It's an obvious doc (dentist in this case) save to me.

Say again? A tracker that tracks Soandso and receives info that Soandso targeted CG last night wouldn't know if Soandso was the doc or killer. Weapons shouldn't have anything to do with anything from a trackers point of view.

anyone with ncis loreisdom (see what i did there?): are there any bad guys who used scalpels in there MO's?

Yes.

The main reason the SK doesn't use a gun, is so that a gunsmith can't ping him.

Two kills by two different methods also let's the town know which killer killed which player and can be used to count how many separate killers have killed thus far.

Also nothing says he was saved, the wounding was more likley to silience him, as dentists in my expierence have been anti-town. So care to explain how it's an 'obvious' save.

This version of a dentist sounds very different than Ankeli's version of a dentist. I think I like this one better, as it more closely matches my initial reaction to seeing CG unable to vote/post today.

However, there is that Port to Port killer storyline...

 

[Gwaihir]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Holy amounts of stuff to read. Good for info, but hard to keep up on.

......this.

unvote: kestegs
vote: coju



lso mud flinging, the gentlemans form of feces.

You seem to be hopping around a bunch with votes. Are you trying to distract the town, or do you have a legitimite reason for this?

Policy vote is policy vote, nothing scummy about it. The next vote on coju is the one that seems like a real stretch, scum points for that one.

What is a policy vote?

I didn't look at the link, and have never encounter a dentist role before, so I was basing my assumption on that sounds like an overly powerful role to be a mafia role.



well, you seem very anxious to appear town... overly so. Coming out with the first vote, poking holes at everything anyone says, defending a questionable role that cost a vote & any insight from a player... all together = scummy.

You also seem to think playing drunk is a good idea... exactly what makes you think this a good idea? What about having impaired judgement, lowered reaction & increased chance of missing key points is a good idea? Poor judgement at best, which doesn't fit with your usual MO from what I have seen. Scummy x2.

on top of this, you are going to be effectively unable to communicate for the first 2 days? Lame-duck player is a lame-duck....

vote: Ankeli

I agree, this seems really suspicious. Seems like you went after Ankeli just for his vote on you. Why would someone working on bringing out discussion on the first day be scummy?

Vote: zemaj, although I am still not sold on corax.

Vote:Thundercat....oac


Vote=Thundercat....hu

Huh, so flubb is post restricted, but can still vote? That seems like a good thing. Do these usually have a way of being decoded? Or do they generally just have to wait until something else happens?

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Flubby luimt oui cyo cusadrehk muhkan dryh fryd oui ryja bucdat bnajeuicmo?

E fyhd du ryja y ku yd fryd oui yna cyoehk yht E lyh'd syga yhodrehk yd ymm uid uv fryd E's caaehk huf.

Oac. E ryja y bucd nacdneldeuh yht Drixx's (#49) ec hud jymet.

 

[Kestegs]

Policy vote: he votes for me in the first day of every game due to our "history"

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

That would be your third post without any real information in it, for not keeping up on the game yet and not being able to post any real theory's you sure are reading and posting a lot. scummy points for you.

Third post indeed, and you should know that I tend to post a lot, even when I say I don't really have time for it. But my misstake, as I should've been clearer. I didn't have time to read every post carefully, and definately no time for theorycrafting. But I've had a few minutes every once in a while just to quickly look over the new posts and get the gist of what's going on. Also the replies earlier was made to show I am here. Maybe it's a bit too early, but it seems if you either post too much without information that people can believe in, or too little you're mafia. Thus I tried for a middle ground and post a little. Anyhow I apologize for cluttering up the thread with useless posts then.

For now it's time for dinner, got some plans with a friend (sorry everyone, couldn't cancel it), then I'll make hopefully a more informative post later on.

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Huh, so flubb is post restricted, but can still vote? That seems like a good thing. Do these usually have a way of being decoded? Or do they generally just have to wait until something else happens?

Usually there is a way of decoding it, or guessing your way into finding a way to understand what a post restricted person is saying. Sometimes it's an incredibly complex post restriction though, in which case 1-2 translators or so are handed out to players. Although I believe someone managed to crack such a post restriction too.

I believe I've also seen a post restriction that changes every other day or so. Or at certain points in the game.

Alright time to read the thread more thoroughly while eating.

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

All I can base my vote on is your initial post, your reaction to my post, and a hunch, but you certainly are going to be holding on to it for the remainder of this day phase. Besides, my hunches are more like premonitions which all should follow blindly. Mafia 101.

Ladies and Gents, meet our first anti-town, zemaj.

I wouldn't follow it blindly (although obvious joke imo because of the smiley). I have however been on the recieving end of your poking and prodding, and for someone who doesn't know your style of play, it is definately very frustrating.

The first few times I played with you, it always seemed like you just laser painted a target and started hammering that person. But it gives results quite quickly, so can't deny the efficiency of your method.

However I want to see what Zemaj has to say in his defence before placing a vote on him.

Seriously, why would someone softclaim mafia? To let the other mafia's know (whom already knows he is mafia)? Mafia prob doesn't think of themselves as a family, unless they have watched to much Sopranos, so it couldn't slip anything out that way.

Flimsy reasons that doesn't make any sense in any way I can imagine = anti-town.

vote: corax

Wouldn't two different mafia factions share the same goal? They're both anti-town, so as long as the town is wiped out, they both win?

Just to be perfectly clear, I'm not accusing anyone with this post (yet). I just honestly want to know the answer to this, since I can't recall ever seeing a game with two mafia factions alive and the town being defeated. So I've no idea what the results would be.

the zemaj vs ankeli situation is crazy, maybe they are both scum and are staging it?

Doesn't look like Ankeli is staging anything at all. I've seen him play really aggressively before, so atm I'm not that suspicious of him. Also I believe one of the games he played as mafia, his posting style was completely different. He could've learned from that though.




As for the story. Definately seems like at least 1 doc save happened (the unnamed person), but that's not to say town doesn't have 2 docs. It's a big game, but that 2 docs manages to make a save? a CPR doc (I think that's what you guys called it) wouldn't use a scalpel to silence someone would he? Either way it seems like either mafia targeted CG, or we have a doc that has the potential to save someone, but puts him out for a day. While I have no experience with a doc that wounds the player and puts him out of the game for a day, the story doesn't seem to match. A doc that stabs someone? To me it looks like some sort of ability that puts a person in the hospital. He could be unconcious, which explains why he can't post or talk.


Btw just for the recrod, you guys have really stepped up several notches in terms of mafia acronyms since my last game. All of this RQS, RVS, FoS, MFoS and whatnot's making me confused. I I've nailed down those acronyms though for now, although can't say I know how to use all of 'em in the right setting.

Alright I'm off for now. My friend's starting to wonder what the heck I'm doing.

 

[PvtCaboose]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

For sure with a scalpel might point to a doctor. However, there could be other reasons for a scalpel to be found there. Could very well be a SK or something, we really don't have a ton of information to go on yet.

 

[PvtCaboose]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

For sure with a scalpel might point to a doctor. However, there could be other reasons for a scalpel to be found there. Could very well be a SK or something, we really don't have a ton of information to go on yet.

So posting from a cell phone has its disadvantages I did t realize we are on page 4 already, oh how much I missed. After reading the posts and rereading the roles I still don't think there is enough valuable information to set blame on anyone. 2 Mafias seem s to make sense though.

I'm trying to think back to my NCIS watching and the only thing I remember that involved a doctor and scalpel was airi who bunkered into the NCIS morgue. I don't know if that'll have anything to do with it.

 

[Bad Ash]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

So wait. Nobody died last night so what do we have to be suspicious of yet?

Zemaj and Ankeli thing seems fairly staged. I mean I know that I'm awkard sometimes, but those two really take the cake, don't you think?

Testing the waters I guess. Vote = Zemaj

HEre is the post flub keeps referencing.

my guess he is saying the vote doesnt count, which afaik it doesnt. Weird no one noted this in 4 pages worth of posts after this...

the alibi thing was me just creating a pun so I could post those pics. And that video Gorny is hilariiiious.

heading out for the rest of the day/night. Should be around tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Valhauros]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Flubbucket has an obvious post restriction, which probably means he's aligned with the Town. I searched for some of the words and found that the language is called "Al Bhed"; it uses a substitution cipher and pertains to the games Final Fantasy X and its sequel. Here is a translator, and here you can find more information about it. Now that we know how to decode it, I wonder if the host will continue using this language for the posts restrictions. Anyway, onto Fub's messages:

Flubbucket's "Yhudran vyldeuh luimt ymcu pa nalniedan. Drixx ouin juda ec hud jymet":
"Another faction could also be recruiter. Drixx your vote is not valid."

Flubbucket's "Oac. E ryja y bucd nacdneldeuh yht Drixx's (#49) ec hud jymet":
"Yes. I have a post restriction and Drixx's (#49) is not valid."

 

[flubbucket1]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Aqlammahd Valhauros, yht Dryhg oui Bad Ash...

 

[Noodle]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

That's very helpful, Val. I was in the process of googling the code myself.

No one has really isolated themselves as suspicious in my mind yet. I'm a little surprised by the number of votes this early in the day.

 

[Goryani]

Re: Witch Hunt: The NCIS Haloween Forum Mafia Thread

Flubby could you say something longer than what you have posted previously?

I want to have a go at what you are saying and I can't make anything at all out of what I'm seeing now.

You and Feysal should get along splendidly.

What RQS from last game? The mafia experience ones?

Yes. Specifically:

1. How long has it been since you played mafia?
2. Have you ever played as mafia or anti-town?
3. Have you ever won a game as mafia or anti-town?
4. What was the most memorable, weirdest, or otherwise noteworthy game/role/scenario you have ever seen while playing mafia?

I'd like for a lot of players to answer these questions. Don't make me name names.

Wouldn't two different mafia factions share the same goal? They're both anti-town, so as long as the town is wiped out, they both win?

Just to be perfectly clear, I'm not accusing anyone with this post (yet). I just honestly want to know the answer to this, since I can't recall ever seeing a game with two mafia factions alive and the town being defeated. So I've no idea what the results would be.

Mafia win condition is usually to wipe out everyone except members of the same mafia. This includes any other mafia or anti-town. If the town is wiped out but two factions of mafia remain, the game should continue until one side wins.

Btw just for the recrod, you guys have really stepped up several notches in terms of mafia acronyms since my last game. All of this RQS, RVS, FoS, MFoS and whatnot's making me confused. I I've nailed down those acronyms though for now, although can't say I know how to use all of 'em in the right setting.

Just don't make the Gamblers Fallacy of citing Occam's Razor during Lylo.

my guess he is saying the vote doesnt count, which afaik it doesnt. Weird no one noted this in 4 pages worth of posts after this...

See rule #6. Gorny's, not Gibbs. It looks OK to me. So does flubb's vote(s).