Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

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Also day talk for mafia was bloody scary!
How much discussion could have gone on about synchronising stories - I suspect we have some observations that have been made falsified its a strong possibility.

@TC - if we give a pass to Asrrin for goryani then what about the night I was targeted? It was also CgB who targeted me yes? (not gone back to check yet)
We learned that from Caluin Graye if I recall. I had been very happy with CG's townie status - still am to an extent but that mafia day chat certainly opens the possibilities up
 
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Uraj said:
Players dead:
2. Feysal -- Died at the end of Day one
3. Leopold Stotch -- Went missing on Night two, Body found at the end of Day three
4. Laarz -- Strangled Night two
7. Goryani -- Strangled Night four
10. LozHinge the Unhinged -- Shot to death Night six
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Would like to point some things out. I'm still leaning with 1 mafia team with 2 left which have different abilities and a SK which can kidnap people.
Night one, Technomancer must have targeted Feysal which resulted in him dieing at the end of the day, which means Ankeli is not out of the woods being protected by Goryani.
Night two, another mafia member strangled Laarz, same for night four with Goryani.
Night 6 we see Loz being strangled.

If I do investigate Technomancer, I bet the only result I would get is that he poisoned Feysal on night 1.

I would like to hear from Sathoris and Caluin about their investigations.
 
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Yes, it was also I who targetted you. If you think about it, the poison mafia (techno) is dead, and he was not found targeting you, so it would not have been Asrrins antidote which saved you. Right now, I'm going to throw this out:

How sure are you of Cal being town? Every claim he has made so far, he has done after the fact has been revealed or he could have known as mafia (Krazey targeting Loz, 2 people targetting Krazey last night). The only other fact that he was the first to reveal was Asrrins target of TC.

Cal and Asrrin are most likely on the same team I'd say...whether it's the scummy side or not, I do not know. This is obviously not an attempt to lynch Cal, as we have better targets, but hopefully you guys will give it a thought in the future.
 
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Been reading page 63 onwards again its interesting.... remember day talk is still kicking around now - and as of the post below Sathoris had not declared his role....(pretty sure)

Caluin Graye said:
Vote: Asrrin
Hitman.
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CG saw something reads into it hitman

Sathoris said:
That must mean you presume Ivan was the NK target? I'm a watcher and I targeted Ivan and I saw Asrrin visit him.
Which assuming Ivan was the target could mean he is the doc that saved him.
To echo Loz, how do you get to hitman?
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You presume Ivan (me) was the target (with no other info given!) You rather conveniently have a limited watcher role which crucially does not see the exact same info that CG received, sure its limited use but why limited vision (we will come back to this soon) - if your mafia look at it from this angle - your NK was blocked - bus driver is out - HIGH likelihood its a doctor block. Asrrin has been mooted as one, you know target and can pretty much claim you saw asrrin the doc get brownie points for standing up for him in the future

Caluin Graye said:
Yes, I believe Ivan to be the target. I saw two people target him last night.

One was Asrrin. The other person was the same person I watched over night 1. That person targeted his-self on night 1.

I can't come up with a reason for a mafia hitman to target him-self, so I presume he is the doctor. That leaves Asrrin as the hitman.

Only thing I can't account for is why TC isn't dead from the night two target. Unless, as a watcher, I only have a chance to see more than one person visiting, which could explain why Sathoris only saw Asrrin.
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Its here we learn that CG saw 2 people targeting me, again if you are mafia you would know who the other is

Sathoris said:
Mind you I'm not a full watcher role. For one it's a twoshot ability. I have one other abiltity aswell with limited shots.
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You quickly follow up with a bit more info about your limited role plus some other ability feels like a back peddle looking at it now

Sathoris said:
I don't know if there's a chance that you see more than one person. If we lynch Asrrin and he comes up as mafia than TC being targeted and surviving could be due to another PR ability.

My other ability is a counter to some other abilities that I think are still unknown to us.
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Again fairly soon after the above seems like you got caught with your pants down thinking an observer could only see 1 person targeting another and your backpeddling

If this theory is right that would put you and CgB as mafia and the self target on day 1 down to Gorny's action - could CgB kill himself I wonder?


 
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ThunderCat said:
I would like to hear from Sathoris and Caluin about their investigations.
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I, unfortunately, didn't see anything.

Concerning your autopsy, I don't think option #3 is very sound. It's likely all we'll get is him killing Feysal. If Loz is what he said he is, then likely options 4 and 5 won't give us anything, either. So I would go with either 2 or 1.



 
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As an addendum to Krazey's charge against Sathoris, I have to wonder why I didn't see him target Krazey as well? If Sathoris had to target Krazey in order to watch over him, I would think that would count for my ability.

My role didn't specifically say one way or another if a watcher can spot another watcher.
 
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Well, that's two days in a row with a bad guy. Hopefully, we can keep the momentum going.

My take is no different today than yesterday. I think Bad Ash a bad guy.
 
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Zarniwoop said:
Well, that's two days in a row with a bad guy. Hopefully, we can keep the momentum going.

My take is no different today than yesterday. I think Bad Ash a bad guy.
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I am fairly confident you are a bad guy. only single person who hasnt claimed a role, lets hear it



 
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Whoa, Cal and Krazey...good catches on Sathoris. Maybe that means I revealed my role too soon? I'm going to go back and take a look at Asrrins posts also. As for Sathoris, would he be the safest lynch as of now? Or would it be Ankeli? Not too sure.

Zarn, we do need to hear your role
 
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I'd be fine with a Sathoris lynch. Keep in mind he gunned for my lynch even after I presented evidence. He only stopped when more people started to believe my claim.
 
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Crickets from zarni. You say I am playing a different game and that isn't true, it just hasn't been focused on you. I can change that my friend.

The problem with Zarni is he said he would never lie in a mafia game about his role, and he hasnt ever BEEN mafia since making that claim (iirc) and in this game he has said "I am neither anti-town or neutral" which isn't enough IMO. He has floated by this entire game.

I think we need to look at
Zarni
Asr
Sath
Ank

It is extremely possible to have 2-4 anti-town in this group alone
 
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I don't think either Sathoris or Ankeli are safe lynches. In fact, I don't think anyone is a particularly safe lynch at this point.

At the moment I would be okay with a Zarni lynch, though at this juncture I think the town just needs to be united in a course, no matter what we choose.
 
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Bad Ash said:
Ankeli

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Now now, does that mean that I'm no longer a suspect and that you actually believe I'm a vanilla townie?

Sathoris and Asrrin are both more certainly than not mafia. If a third remains, I can't pinpoint him.

Vote: Asrrin



 
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Ankeli said:
Now now, does that mean that I'm no longer a suspect and that you actually believe I'm a vanilla townie?

Sathoris and Asrrin are both more certainly than not mafia. If a third remains, I can't pinpoint him.

Vote: Asrrin
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Not at all. According to Marahumms note we have at "least" 3 anti-town left in this game. It just means you probably werent the hitman last night



 
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I'm a vanilla townie.

Now, I want an explicit role claim from every one of you that pushed for my claim. Otherwise, never ask me to give one again.

I'm not feeling well, so if you all want to waste a lynch on me, it won't bother me a bit as I can stop trying to find time between code check-ins to read the thread. But, I promise you that you will receive a pro-town reading and at that point, you're probably hosed as we'll have lost another 2 townies and that's the ballgame.
 
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CG did a lot of damage to himself today (well, KI helped a lot).

We have 3 bad guys left and cannot make a mistake.

Ash's list has eased my suspicions a bit, even though I'm on it, as I've come to pretty much the same conclusions over the last few days.

I think Ank, Asrrin, Sathoris, And one of the C's contain at least the majority of the rest of our anti-towns.
 
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One last note, I will be testing on the other side of the building for the next 2-3 hours then again after lunch. I'm not ducking any questions, and I will do my best to participate in what is a very important choice today for the town.
 
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Well, it seems with the death of techno my ability is no longer useful. So I guess my role claim didn't hurt as bad as I thought it would. That being said, we need to lynch the SK before he strikes again. It's obvious he's not going to play the way the town wants and lynch one of the suspected mafia members, as the story clearly indicates he targeted LoZ. So he needs to go before he causes us to lose the game. The only two people who I can possibly think are SK's are Ankeli or Zarni. Since I'm positive they are both scum, along with bad ash, I'll happily lynch either of them.

and just to start
Vote: Ankeli

This will more than likely by my only post today until late tonight, I've gotten ALOT of heat for surfing the web as I mentioned before while at work, and I need to stop. So I will be glad to answer any questions any of you have for me after I get home, or possibly during a lunch break. But please, for the love of all that is holy, LYNCH THE SK TODAY. I don't want the town losing because of him.
 
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