Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.

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Wow.

Bad Ash (and everyone else).

No one is accusing anyone of lying. The most I (or anyone else for that matter) can accuse anyone of doing is playing the game.

Bad Ash, you have been playing the absent cousin most of the game with only your one-trick lynch Ankeli to show for it. You attempted (in my view) to bandwagon a lynch on TC Day1, did not vote on Day 2 when it looked like the lynch-train on TC was going to work, but then stopped short, you voted Marahumm Day 3, Noodle Day 4, and now you are trying to force a lynch on Ankeli. My guess, with voting patterns and questionable scum-hunting - you are almost as certainly scum as Techno is. I do not buy your claim or your theories or your appeals to emotion. Sorry. Please don't take this personally, I think you are play-acting, but in case you are genuinely upset, I don't mean this as an attack on you.

Some of the claims that the mafia is terrifically over-powered I find to be irrelevant at this point. If it is over-powered, we lost at the end of Day 3 and naught matters. I am prepared to believe a number of things and try to plan for them, but I am not planning for a crazy over-powered mafia who will win if we lynch a fairly certain mafia target today. Sorry for that, too.

People are concentrating so hard on the special abilities of players that they are missing scum-tells. The problem with special abilities is you do not know for certain the motivation behind the person using them. For instance, Noodle was a Cop, good for the Town. But he was a Mafia Cop, so it was bad for the Town. But he was also a Mafia Traitor, which should mean that he knew who the Mafia team is, but they did not know who he was - which was good for the Town. Point is, I am taking as little for granted as I possibly can whilst still being able to function. I have folks I trust completely, folks I trust because I have to trust someone, folks I am playing along with whilst I think they are playing a Town ticket and folks I do not trust at all.

I have yet to see someone who has suggested a possible structure of the game that matches what we have see, so I do not completely trust the "info" we are getting in this game. Either the observer is being interfered with or the observer is lying. So I am back to good old fashioned scum-hunting.

tl,dr: We are not out of the woods yet, nor are we dead in the water.

Remind me to post a suggested list of lynch targets, in order, with my reasons for it, later today. Have to go to work now.
 
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Unvote: Asrrin
Vote: Technomancer

Here's my scum list: Technomancer / Sathoris and Zarniwoop / Ankeli

I somehow believe Bad Ashes claim. Don't have any evidence to that, just a gut feeling.
 
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You know, I'm just gonna skip the whole "I have a life and can't be on here much" thing, cause it'll just be met with derisive laughter. I'll save till it doesn't matter anymore.

Well, looks like we're past the point of secrets. Here's my role:
Drunken Porter

I can redirect anyone's night action to a random target. Apparently, I'm drunk. :p I can't decide where (and don't know where) the action is sent, only whose actions I want to redirect.

On Night 1, I 'portered'(?) Coolguy, cause we had just done some D2 commerce, and he was a new guy like I was last game, so I thought I'd haze him a bit. Sorry man! No harm meant, just funnin' ya! :D

On night 2, I did it to Leo, but that obviously went nowhere. That's part of why I was going on about it all, cause I felt guilty about playing around and then that happened. :( After that, I started taking things a little more seriously.

Sath was giving me grief, so I portered him on night 3.

Night 4, Loz was giving me the creeps, so I did him.

Night 5, The Ankeli/Asrrin thing was heating up, and the fit that Ankeli was throwing felt kinda genuine to me, so I did Asrrin last night.

Quick recap:
N1 CgB
N2 Leo
N3 Sathoris
N4 Loz
N5 Asrrin

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Ok, so what does all this mean....

I portered CgB, and while the chances are low (<5%, I know how you guys love numbers :cloud9:), it looks like he got redirected onto himself. I'm having a hard time following the nuances, so I can't say that means he was a hitman, but according to Cal, he did target himself. It *IS* possible he targeted himself AND I redirected him BACK onto himself, but that's CRAZY low odds. :shocked: I can't make anything definitive out of any of it, maybe you guys can.

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I have no idea what happened with Sath or Loz those nights, or if either of them even did anything those nights. I'm still suspicious of both of them though. They have targeted me since day 1, literally. I thought yesterday that Sath was the SK trying to shut up a thorn in his side, but today, I'm thinking more like Loz. He seems to be all too ready to follow anything bad Sath has to say about me and has now turned into the #1 fan for my lynch, now that he's got a taste for my blood. It also fits, because he did this same thing on Day 1 after Sath fingered me for no reason. What fits about that? Leo busts his balls over that amongst other things and, whoops!, Leo goes missing that night! I've been suspicious of you since Day 1 too Loz. When you got that item, I started to doubt, but there's nothing in the world saying the SK can't get passed an item.

I'm sure it's not gonna go anywhere, but:

Vote: LozHinge the Unhinged

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As for last night, I did target Asrrin, and that has apparently caused a great deal of hubbub. It seems like if his story is right, then CgB must've tried to poison Ivan, but I redirected him (unknowingly) to Ivan, thereby saving him. Otherwise, Asrrin tried to kill someone (anyone really) and just happened to get redirected to Ivan, who was protected.

Fool's Luck.

You know, it's still possible a 3rd person targeted Ivan that remained hidden. With all these crazy information roles and powers, it seems like there could be a mafia counter to some of it. Maybe a limited use ability?

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Final Note: TC, you have every right to vote for me. I've been a total pain in your arse, and now you're probably the surest townie in the game.
 
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I'm not buying it Techno. The whole "you're probably the surest townie in the game" looks like a desperate attempt to gain my pitty and persuade the others not to vote for you. Not the mention your claim smells of bovine poo.
 
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Less than 4 hours until the day ends right? We need a lynch...

Techno, what a 1/2 hearted claim/*** kiss=P Sorry, but that post seals it for me.

Vote: Technomancer
 
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Any and all of the townies left, you need to step up now, we need to focus on one person because the votes are a bit too spread as of now. That's why aggressive attempts like Ankeli's, where they will ONLY lynch 1 person, is pretty much the scummiest you can do during the day time at this point.
 
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Going out on an errand, I hope I will be back before day end if there is some unexpected occurence where Techno is not going to be lynched and another target has been chosen.
A no-lynch at this point will be, ah, disappointing.
 
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Ankeli (1) - Bad Ash, Asrrin
Asrrin (1) - Ankeli
Bad Ash (1) - Zarniwoop
Loz (1) - Technomancer
Technomancer (4) - Loz, TC, Krazeyivan, CoolguyBad

I believe that should be about right.
 
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If techno turns out to be a townie that just completely derailed the town, that will be just about all she wrote. Are we sure that's the direction we want to go?

I think that we will get 2 mafia at least out of Asrrin, Ankeli and Ash. But, we can't fail today, so if most of the town in sold on Techno, I will add my vote.

Please don't lock it too fast.

Unvote: Bad Ash
Vote: Technomancer
 
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Vote tally should be up to date now. CoolguyBad's is correct, except that Ankeli obviously has two votes on him.

Added Zarni's new vote now and Caluin Graye's vote.
 
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Shall I lock it? Techno is obviscum and I wouldn't want any of his mafia buddies to pull what Feysal did to us town last game and unvote right at the end of the day.
 
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Might as well lock me, Town's bent on losing. I'm not gonna vote for myself. I can't devote enough attention to this game. When this doesn't work out though, you guys aren't gonna have much more wiggle room. If a townie has to be sacrificed, Ankeli would tell you much more, like Asrrin being scum.

Sorry CgB, didn't want to paint you too early, but better you than me.

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OT Personal Note:
This really isn't a good time for me to be doing this. I know, I know, "Likely story". I have a couple of different big projects in the works right right now and in the coming month or two, I can't live on the internet right now like some of you. I see the logic of "Lynch all Lurkers", you gotta do what you gotta do. I just don't have enough time and brain to spare to spend too much of myself here trying to figure this stuff out. I'll probably be sitting the next game or two out. I intend to be back when things settle down though. This has been a long build up, and that's part of why I stopped participating in political threads on the OTF. I'm surprised how much forum mafia resembles that! :D Things should level off eventually though.
 
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Oh, and like I said before, watch Loz. I'd about put money that he's the SK. With this lynch and and if he DOES kidnap a town tonight, we're totally f'd in the a.
 
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I don't think techno is scum. I think Asrrin, Ankeli and Ash are 2 or 3 alone.

I don't know who the 4th/sk is. But, if we work through those 3 we're in the money. I think we blew it today.

Uraj, how much time is left in the day? I'm not pointing fingers because I've struggled myself for the last 6 months with activity, but it sometimes sucks that we're not active enough to switch targets at the last minute.
 
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Well, someone is gonna lock me soon, probably Asrrin at this point. If anyone wants time to think about things, someone need to unvote before a mafia locks it.
 
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I don't think techno is scum

Lol.

Anyway we now need to sort out our PR's. We want the SK to target Ankeli tonight so we can figure out all the other mafia tomorrow. He's probably mafia anyway so the SK would be working towards his wincon aswell.

We can have me or CG watch Ankeli and name the SK tonight. The other one should probably target one of Bad Ash or Asrrin incase the SK decides to go for one those too. I will target Ankeli tonight and probably see Zarni there or

The doc must obviously not tell who he's protecting, but the targets should be obvious, for mafia aswell. So that would give the mafia a wifom dilemma to deal with tonight.

I'll make Zarni unblockable incase Bad Ash really is a roleblocker and not town.

Questions?


 
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