Kraz3yIvan
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
If Caluin Graye confirms you I am pretty happy with an Asrrin lynch today
If Caluin Graye confirms you I am pretty happy with an Asrrin lynch today
Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
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Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
what part of "past 1am in the morning" did you not read? I have my laptop set to keep awake to keep my smiter in game in case I get a dclone walk.
No, I asked Cal who he target the night before. I already knew who he target on night 2, and the fact that he found me out. Stop trying to lie and twist the truth to get a lynch on me for your anti-town win condition.
Uhg. I really don't want to claim, but fine. I'm the Poison Doctor. I can only cure poisoned people, and ONLY during night, before the poison attempt apparently happens. We have had three different type of kills this game, and a strangling and poisoning never happened on the same night, so I assume that whoever uses those two abilities can pick between them. If he knew of the existence of a poison doctor, he would simply stop using the poison ability. This is why I didn't want to claim, so thanks for forcing my hand.
One other important thing to know is this: I never targeted Krazey last night. I knew that he had an item cooking today from his previous post, and the anti-town factions had to kill him outright, as if the poisoned him, he would be free to give that item away, so I knew for a fact no one would attempt to poison him. I actually targeted Cal last night.
The only explanation I can possibly see is that I really did target krazey (someone redirected me or bussed my target) last night, or I'm being framed for the hit job.
Unless Cal and Sath saw three people target Krazey, I'm thinking I Was framed. and Ankeli is so focused on targeting me, I can only conclude either he is the one who framed me or he has an anti-town lyncher win condition.
17 minutes later, you're still viewing the thread and no answer. Figures. Having a hard time coming up with that "doctor with a twist that really isn't the doctor" because you'd be instantly nullified by the real doctor if you claimed just that?
It's really a shame that the real doctor can't claim yet as he can still be useful.
Either way, I take no offense if you people choose to lynch me. Just don't let Asrrin and Sathoris slither away from it tomorrow if you choose me over Asrrin today.
what part of "past 1am in the morning" did you not read? I have my laptop set to keep awake to keep my smiter in game in case I get a dclone walk.
No, I asked Cal who he target the night before. I already knew who he target on night 2, and the fact that he found me out. Stop trying to lie and twist the truth to get a lynch on me for your anti-town win condition.
Uhg. I really don't want to claim, but fine. I'm the Poison Doctor. I can only cure poisoned people, and ONLY during night, before the poison attempt apparently happens. We have had three different type of kills this game, and a strangling and poisoning never happened on the same night, so I assume that whoever uses those two abilities can pick between them. If he knew of the existence of a poison doctor, he would simply stop using the poison ability. This is why I didn't want to claim, so thanks for forcing my hand.
One other important thing to know is this: I never targeted Krazey last night. I knew that he had an item cooking today from his previous post, and the anti-town factions had to kill him outright, as if the poisoned him, he would be free to give that item away, so I knew for a fact no one would attempt to poison him. I actually targeted Cal last night.
The only explanation I can possibly see is that I really did target krazey (someone redirected me or bussed my target) last night, or I'm being framed for the hit job.
Unless Cal and Sath saw three people target Krazey, I'm thinking I Was framed. and Ankeli is so focused on targeting me, I can only conclude either he is the one who framed me or he has an anti-town lyncher win condition.
CoolguyBad
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So both sathoris and Cal claim you targeted Krazey last night but you claim you didn't...interesting.
So both sathoris and Cal claim you targeted Krazey last night but you claim you didn't...interesting.
ThunderCat
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How come you didn't mention who you targeted in previous nights, Asrrin?
Caluin's ability has been proven when he said he saw Ivan and Loz, so even if Sathoris is lying about his one shot thing, you were still noticed targeting Ivan. So unless the mafia decided not to kill anyone (which I seriously doubt as they have been having hard time killing people as it is), the reason for a no kill is you, Asrrin.
How come you didn't mention who you targeted in previous nights, Asrrin?
Caluin's ability has been proven when he said he saw Ivan and Loz, so even if Sathoris is lying about his one shot thing, you were still noticed targeting Ivan. So unless the mafia decided not to kill anyone (which I seriously doubt as they have been having hard time killing people as it is), the reason for a no kill is you, Asrrin.
Caluin Graye
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I don't follow this logic. Mafia would have a much easier time figuring out your identity than a townie would. With six townies, five of us pretty much claimed, it leaves only two people for him to choose from (with the other being the SK).
A townie however has six options, since we don't know for 100% who is mafia or just a really quiet, unclaimed townie.
For the record, yes, CoolguyBad was the 'mystery' person. This does not mean I'm clearing him as pro-town, though. If he's the doc, then we still don't have a reason for why TC didn't die on the second night, or why there was no night kill on our first night. Right now, I suspect both Asrrin and CgB equally.
Since it's all out there now anyways, as you wish!
Night 1: CoolguyBad --> CoolguyBad
Night 2: Asrrin --> ThunderCat
Night 3: KrazeyIvan --> LozHinge (item being passed)
Night 4: I watched over Ivan. Nobody targeted him.
Night 5: CoolguyBad and Asrrin --> KrazeyIvan
I don't follow this logic. Mafia would have a much easier time figuring out your identity than a townie would. With six townies, five of us pretty much claimed, it leaves only two people for him to choose from (with the other being the SK).
A townie however has six options, since we don't know for 100% who is mafia or just a really quiet, unclaimed townie.
For the record, yes, CoolguyBad was the 'mystery' person. This does not mean I'm clearing him as pro-town, though. If he's the doc, then we still don't have a reason for why TC didn't die on the second night, or why there was no night kill on our first night. Right now, I suspect both Asrrin and CgB equally.
ThunderCat said:
Since it's all out there now anyways, as you wish!
Night 1: CoolguyBad --> CoolguyBad
Night 2: Asrrin --> ThunderCat
Night 3: KrazeyIvan --> LozHinge (item being passed)
Night 4: I watched over Ivan. Nobody targeted him.
Night 5: CoolguyBad and Asrrin --> KrazeyIvan
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
I've got a two-shot watcher ability. I've used up one last night and I'm saving the other to confirm either CB or Asrrin. I've also got a redirection/mimick/roleblock/switch counter which I'll also use tonight just so it doesn't end up wasted. Unless I see a better use for it later.
We could lynch Techno first, but eventually we need to lynch one of the three people in question to sort out all the roles. We could go for techno first and then deal with our 'problem'. I'm still sticking with an Ankeli lynch reveals all. But if we wait a day I or CG may not live and our watch results can't be posted.
In the end it's a decision we as town must make. We'll see how things stand after a while.
I've got a two-shot watcher ability. I've used up one last night and I'm saving the other to confirm either CB or Asrrin. I've also got a redirection/mimick/roleblock/switch counter which I'll also use tonight just so it doesn't end up wasted. Unless I see a better use for it later.
We could lynch Techno first, but eventually we need to lynch one of the three people in question to sort out all the roles. We could go for techno first and then deal with our 'problem'. I'm still sticking with an Ankeli lynch reveals all. But if we wait a day I or CG may not live and our watch results can't be posted.
In the end it's a decision we as town must make. We'll see how things stand after a while.
LozHinge the Unhinged
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CgB as Doc fits the facts as we know them whilst Asrrin's account is shaky at best and on the face of it, inconsistent.
CgB targeting himself Night 1, as a mafia, makes no sense. It does make sense that he target himself, if he is the Doc.
Flaws in the logic? Substantial ones, I mean.
CgB as Doc fits the facts as we know them whilst Asrrin's account is shaky at best and on the face of it, inconsistent.
CgB targeting himself Night 1, as a mafia, makes no sense. It does make sense that he target himself, if he is the Doc.
Flaws in the logic? Substantial ones, I mean.
Caluin Graye
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It makes sense if Gorny bus drivered CgB, and CgB is immune to night kills.
It makes sense if Gorny bus drivered CgB, and CgB is immune to night kills.
LozHinge the Unhinged
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Sath, you have some pretty trick abilities there. Makes me wonder whether the mafia have some equally over-powered abilities that could be messing us up.
You and CG are both high-value targets to the mafia - there is not much guarantee that you both will be able to survive the night, so your proposed watch-results postings are not a given.
Again, and to spell it out, you lynch mafia in order of certainty of guilt, leaving the uncertain targets to the end. That way you have enough townies to be able to cope with mis-lynches when you get towards end-game and have to make tough choices.
Sath, you have some pretty trick abilities there. Makes me wonder whether the mafia have some equally over-powered abilities that could be messing us up.
You and CG are both high-value targets to the mafia - there is not much guarantee that you both will be able to survive the night, so your proposed watch-results postings are not a given.
Again, and to spell it out, you lynch mafia in order of certainty of guilt, leaving the uncertain targets to the end. That way you have enough townies to be able to cope with mis-lynches when you get towards end-game and have to make tough choices.
Re: Ravenwood Retreat Mafia Game.
CgB could be the NK immune godfather that got his kill redirected or switched back onto himself. Explaining the no kill.
The other no kill explanation is that Goryani targeted Ankeli as bodyguard but didn't die once he took the hit on Ankeli. While a bodyguard always dies when preventing a kill on someone else.
I think we need to lynch either techno as a stall tactic or Ankeli as a way to confirm the other to. Unless we figure out what caused the no lynch or why Asrrin targeted TC without him dying we're always going to guess.
CgB could be the NK immune godfather that got his kill redirected or switched back onto himself. Explaining the no kill.
The other no kill explanation is that Goryani targeted Ankeli as bodyguard but didn't die once he took the hit on Ankeli. While a bodyguard always dies when preventing a kill on someone else.
I think we need to lynch either techno as a stall tactic or Ankeli as a way to confirm the other to. Unless we figure out what caused the no lynch or why Asrrin targeted TC without him dying we're always going to guess.
LozHinge the Unhinged
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@Caluin Graye - that demands more assumptions than assuming CgB is the Doc, but it is a fair comment.
But that does reinforce my conviction that we should leave the Asrrin/Ankeli/CgB conundrum until we need to address it.
@Caluin Graye - that demands more assumptions than assuming CgB is the Doc, but it is a fair comment.
But that does reinforce my conviction that we should leave the Asrrin/Ankeli/CgB conundrum until we need to address it.
Caluin Graye
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Agreed. Techno is the safer lynch, and we may have more information tomorrow than we do today.
Agreed. Techno is the safer lynch, and we may have more information tomorrow than we do today.
CoolguyBad
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Agreed, still don't have a full understanding of the connection between Assrins target of TC on a night with 2 NKs and last nights targeting. Could it be possible the Mafia can not be tracked or there's a limit to Cals ability? But in that case, I would have imagined Uraj to add that detail to his story.
With that said, it seems like the most likely votes as of now are Techno and BA? With Ankeli and Asrrin coming in from behind. Not too sure about Zarn yet.
I also have some interesting theories I will put forth later when we decide who we are lynching.
Agreed, still don't have a full understanding of the connection between Assrins target of TC on a night with 2 NKs and last nights targeting. Could it be possible the Mafia can not be tracked or there's a limit to Cals ability? But in that case, I would have imagined Uraj to add that detail to his story.
With that said, it seems like the most likely votes as of now are Techno and BA? With Ankeli and Asrrin coming in from behind. Not too sure about Zarn yet.
I also have some interesting theories I will put forth later when we decide who we are lynching.
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I would just like people to read these posts again. They are very telling IMO.
Crank the numbers can someone please? I am pretty certain if there are 4 anti-town left then this game can be over unless we lynch someone who is mafia today. Some night actions might be able to prevent it, but if the person we lynch is town the game CAN end after this day phase.
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I would just like people to read these posts again. They are very telling IMO.
Crank the numbers can someone please? I am pretty certain if there are 4 anti-town left then this game can be over unless we lynch someone who is mafia today. Some night actions might be able to prevent it, but if the person we lynch is town the game CAN end after this day phase.
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It has to be either Ankeli or Techno today. We'll have to determine two targets that we can watch to find out who visited them. I will use my immune to blocking ability on either me or CG and I think CgB needs to protect either himself, me or CG.
If they decide to kill someone else we still have two watch results and there's always the chance they block the person I protected and kill the person cgB protected.
It has to be either Ankeli or Techno today. We'll have to determine two targets that we can watch to find out who visited them. I will use my immune to blocking ability on either me or CG and I think CgB needs to protect either himself, me or CG.
If they decide to kill someone else we still have two watch results and there's always the chance they block the person I protected and kill the person cgB protected.
