Zombie invasion Mafia game.

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If you might remember, we tried bending the rules once more with the "how many letters in your role PM" and that didn't turn out well.
 
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it wouldnt work as I basically refuse to vote KI after the binoculars call.

you offering to commit suicide and lynching KI shows that youre role wouldnt be revealed till the end of the day, and wed lynch another townie while your co-partner would be in the background (ZY) am I close?
 
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Why are you so impatient Bad Ash, am I not allowed to ask any questions? You're acting as if the day is about to end.

You seem to be trying to find any way to lynch me today, were you recruited?
 
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Krazeyivan said:
Its weird the previous ones gave a little more such the name (but they were all pro townie results I suppose) not sure how to weight it tbh its TC who gives the details so I'm not reading too much into it.
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Inconsistent types of readings from TC? That's odd since I consider him an strictly organized mod.

Ivan said:
Its possible that someone switched Noammr hence giving me the false positive but I don't think you'll get someone to put their hand up saying they did it if thats the case. I voting simple on my cop role and the result gathered overnight and the unlikely occurrence of a switch.
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If there was a switch that would mean double bus driver. A little hard to swallow as Bad Ash isn't modding this game. :scratchchin:

Bad Ash said:
ZY you are blatantly ignoring some facts, are you and noammr aligned?
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Like I mentioned previously, you seem much more aggressive now. I was considering the possibility that Ivan was never the cop and he recruited you.



 
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Kijya, what do you think, am I over-analyzing things? Should we just do the straightforward thing of lynching Noammr?
 
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I don't know what to do honestly. I don't have a strong anti-town feeling on anyone.

Do we lynch Noammr? What info do we gain? Where does that lead us?

The only person I haven't heard much from and don't have a take of any sort on is Kijya. That's the only thing making me uncomfortable. I'll try to find time today to re-read everyone's role claim with the backing for the claim, but a summary wouldn't hurt.
 
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So far nothing other then Noammrs "bus driver power" has been put forward as an explanation as to what saved me from the mafia back then. However, saving me doesn't prove innocence completely. Now that I know there's "neutral" party involved their hand could simply have been forced into saving me to avoid a mafia win.

At this point I cannot tell if noammr is part of those loyal to the town or not, but the conflict between BA+KI vs N should contain at least one of the neutral players.

7 players left, if we assume there's two neutrals we're at 5v2.

If we vote wrong and sathoris is modkilled we'll be down 3 players tomorrow:
2v2, town loss.

If we vote right and sathoris is modkilled we'll be down 2 players tomorrow:
3v1, good chance to win

If we don't vote and sathoris is modkilled we'll be down 2 players tomorrow:
3v2
However at this stage we should know one or both of the neutrals. If KI manages to pass the binoculars onto another townie that confirms both him and BA, if not then I'd say we lynch them.



Atm I'm leaning towards not making a lynch, however this assumes it's a 5v2. If it's a 4v3 we're screwed unless sathoris avoids the modkill and we vote correctly. If it's a 6v1 we should be fine with not voting today and waiting for the result of BA+KI vs N.
 
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The above post also assumes:
1) the neutrals cannot convert townies to their cause but use NKs just like the mafia.
2) that neutrals don't get to trade items with loyal townies.
3) that the neutrals need to be equal to the townies to win.

If any of these assumptions are wrong then my theories may not be valid.
 
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Bad Ash is not winning me over but we should probably just lynch Noammr as that seems the more likely scenario.

Unvote: Zarniwoop
Vote: Noammr

If it's 4v3 and Ivan is purposely lying to clinch the game, then so be it.
 
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Okay. Fingers crossed.

This doesn't lock, so I suggest we don't lock until the end of the day.

Vote: Noammr

I have nothing better, so I'll trust in the group judgment at this point.
 
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From the votes put down I think it's safe to say it's not a 4v3 where Noammr is one of the neutrals.

With 4 votes against him the only chance for a 4v3 with noammr as a neutral would be to have me and sathoris as his pals.

I of course know this not to be the case since I know my own role, as for everyone else you'll have to decide on your own if both I and sath are neutrals. With a name like mine I doubt I can convince you that I'm a good guy at this point, so it's mostly up to your trust in sath if you'd think this setup is a possibility.

In all other pair-ups you'd have at least one neutral currently voting for him, something they'd probably not risk as I or sath could lock the vote now at any time.


In any case, I'll not be voting. As I see it if BA+KI tells the truth we can afford to wait until tomorrow and still win, if they are lying and we vote noammr today we will lose.
 
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Seriously, the amount of "defense" I've put forward for you now noammr, wouldn't surprise me if people start thinking it's kij+noammr if you do turn out neutral ...

Let me just get this said in case you are neutral noammr:
Don't think you've fooled me! I'm just trying to minimize the risk. Your arguments have not completely convinced me that you're pro town.
If they do decide to follow my advice and wait with the vote, and BA+KI gets binocularly confirmed tomorrow, then expect Jack D Ripper in a neighborhood near you tomorrow!


*drama* :grin: :wink:
 
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*sigh*
Town, I am disappoint - as I said, quirky game mechanics (items) have won over actual gameplay analysis.

As you'll soon see, I'm nothing but what I've said. I believe I've played my role as effectively as I could, but the likely outcome from this point is town loss.

Ah well, gg anyway.

Kijya said:
Seriously, the amount of "defense" I've put forward for you now noammr, wouldn't surprise me if people start thinking it's kij+noammr if you do turn out neutral...
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Hah, you have nothing to worry in that regard, I'm town through and through ;).


 
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Kijya said:
[SIZE=+1]In any case, I'll not be voting. As I see it if BA+KI tells the truth we can afford to wait until tomorrow and still win, if they are lying and we vote noammr today we will lose.[/SIZE]
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Just to make sure this is seen before the time is up.

I'll come back once the day has ended, think I've done all I can.



 
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Noammr has been lynched. He was Tommy Hawk, a bus driver. Pro Town.

Sathoris has been mod killed. He was Justin Case, a scavenger. Pro Town.

Housing: N/A
Food: 6 (citizens require 5 food per day)
Morale: 62
Defense: 10
Zombie threat: N/A
Citizens: 5 (0 Soldiers, 1 Scout, 1 Scavengers, 1 Scientist, 0 Engineers, 2 Civilians)
Buildings: 1 House, 1 Police station
Finalized researches: None
Events:
Combat report: N/A

It is not NIGHTTIME. You may not post for the next 24 hours. All those with night actions, PM me as soon as possible.

Edit: It has been brought to my attention that I didn't mention alignments when a player has been lynched / mod killed. Thus, I would like to make it clear that anyone lynched that had zombie in their role reveal was anti town and anyone who didn't was pro town. From now on, I shall include the alignments of all lynched. My apologies for forgetting this.
 
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Survivors log. Airforce General Gregory T. Neils.
No zombie horde attacks for almost a week now. No deaths inside the town for two days in a row. Has our dream really come true and we managed to survive this apocalypse? I guess time will tell.

Day 9 stats:
Housing: N/A
Food: 6 (citizens require 5 food per day)
Morale: 62
Defense: 10
Zombie threat: N/A
Citizens: 5 (0 Soldiers, 1 Scout, 1 Scavengers, 1 Scientist, 0 Engineers, 2 Civilians)
Buildings: 1 House, 1 Police station
Finalized researches: None
Events:
Combat report: N/A

It is now DAYTIME. You may post freely for the next 48 hours.
 
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Alright, since it's 5 people left, and we've still not lost, nor won, it should now be a 4v1 or 3v2 situation I guess ...

Looks like I was (of course) completely wrong about the neutrals having some kind of NK power they where waiting to use ... guess having such a power would make them too mafia like ... seriously guys correct me when my assumptions are far fetched :rolleyes:


I can think of 2 cases:
1) One case where BA+KI are neutrals, and fooled us into lynching noammr using KIs power and BA to back KI up using the exchange of those binoculars. However this plan was carried out to soon, since we've not lost yet, which leads me to suspicion number two:
2) A remaining neutral could have a power that messes up KIs investigation power.


I suggest that we make sure that the neutrals do not get a chance at locking a vote on a townie ... I suggest we wait with placing any votes until we've confirmed a 3 man cell using item trading, using item details to make sure it's not a fake claim to have received a know item.


I've still not received any items this game, including not having received the binoculars. Did anyone else get those binoculars? If you did I'm expecting to hear some good confirmations between you and KI+BA of the truth of such a claim before a vote-train is started, if it's a 3v2 situation we cannot afford any more mistakes.
 
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well I am who ive said I was all along. Sath was a scavenger. I proved his claim because his numbers are the exact same as mine. ZY said he had received a garbage bag for scavengers and I think that might be far-fetched.

Being the 2nd scientist he must have some odd win condition by making a virus or something it is the only story-wise explanation there is.

KI did you investigate anyone? Is there any reason why Noammr came up anti-town?

I honestly think we lynch anyone today my preference in order:

ZY
KI
Zarni
Kijya (dunno why, if you are neutral bravo I just dont feel it from you)

If you want to lynch me for yesterday, thats fine, but KI's info was the most solid info we had to go off of and I am who I have said I am all along
 
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I was rather down-heartened to read that our lynch result was so bad. I am at a loss for the reason tbh. All I can surmise is my reading ability got corrupted cos that result has not helped us, could an item for a neutral affect us? Cos I am definitely affected reading wise - I wonder if I have been flipped cop reading wise?

I was informed my item was dropped last night I can confirm it was not passed on, right now I would lynch me with whats occurred so I won't feel bad if that's your call.

As for my investigation I did indeed investigate Zarni - again Anti town but with my false reading before - I have no clue if its OK or not.
 
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