1.09 Assassin Planning Questions/Build Proposal

Re: 1.09 Assassin Planning Questions/Build Proposal

Assuming that's true in 1.09, then I would not use a claw. I think BS range is key. Although using Strength claws is a neat idea, I think three Blacks (flail, knout, scourge) is probably the way to go.
 
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Assuming that's true in 1.09, then I would not use a claw. I think BS range is key. Although using Strength claws is a neat idea, I think three Blacks (flail, knout, scourge) is probably the way to go.

Well, these are all cheap enough options that I can test how things work. Black does give 15% more CB, to get to 100%, so Strength would not max it out with GFace and GobToes.

Heck, imagine a Hone Sundan with a couple Shaels... but I don't want to try this character without some resists, though - I think Moser's with 2 Diamonds will be a must, since armor, hat, and boots are all dedicated to CB.

I'll make it in a Knout since a Black Knout is a really sweet mid-level weapon in it's own right.


 
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I agree that 2PD Mosers is a good move. I'd build to use Stormshield too...it will be your only PDR, which might be necessary for cows.

Hone Sundan is a neat idea...I remember it from the guide but I don't think I ever tried it. I think it would work well at very high level as your need to block decreases a bit. Still probably not a good idea for cows though.
 
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I agree that 2PD Mosers is a good move. I'd build to use Stormshield too...it will be your only PDR, which might be necessary for cows.

Hone Sundan is a neat idea...I remember it from the guide but I don't think I ever tried it. I think it would work well at very high level as your need to block decreases a bit. Still probably not a good idea for cows though.

There's a guide for this? Would you be so kind as to toss me some linkage?

BTW, I found an interesting item in my inventory that might be good to put "Strength" in for this:

Code:
Feral Claws
One-Hand Damage: 22 to 53
Durability: 30 of 52
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 113
Required Strength: 113
Required Level: 58
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0x18d192b4
+3 to Blade Shield (Assassin Only)
+3 to Lightning Sentry (Assassin Only)
+1 to Dragon Flight (Assassin Only)
Socketed (2: 0 used)

What do you think?


 
Re: 1.09 Assassin Planning Questions/Build Proposal

That's an amazing claw. I'm worried about the repair costs, though. :\
 
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I can't imagine what else you'd put in that claw, so it seems like a free experiment to me. Go for it.

It was a dii.net strategy forum guide. I think it, like many others, was lost to the sands of time. I haven't spent any time looking for it though, so perhaps it's still around. I know they have a handful of the old guides there.
 
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Dusted off my meteorb and found a 3 hole scourge on my first cow run. So I think I'll see about getting the gear together for this guy. Not sure where my stashes are so it'll be from scratch...once I get going we can call it the Blender Revival Project.
 
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Here's the blender guide:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070809023754/strategy.purediablo.com/news.php?id=503

There might be other interesting 1.09 guides on those pages aswell.

Haven't played for quite some time myself, I lurk here from time to time though. I have enjoyed reading your endeavours into 1.09 RobbyD, so I fealt compelled to log in for this.

Yes! Thanks a million for that... man, that wayback machine is just the thing for a time traveler... I'll make a note of that for future reference.

I'm glad you're enjoying my posts... I'm also posting to my blog if you're interested in reading more.


 
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I will post it on my blog, but the nutshell at this time is that Osterizer has not been created yet. MasterGomez (necro, #6 of the Sept) is working his way through Hell Act 5 (got his Anya reward, has the Glacial Trail waypoint). When he's done (if he can get past Hell Ancients), Osterizer will be planned and created.

Good news is that another Vamp's Gaze and Blackhorn's Face dropped for my MF crew, so I should have the gear for her merc.
 
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Ah oki. Gl with the necro

Myself i am doing Nova sorc, Meteor Dr sorc and Javazon in 1.09 :). Have two barbs aswell. Hopefully one of the sorcs will be 99 and maybe the javazon.

Lacking skillers though..
 
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I'm getting close to having the gear for my Blender too, so we might end up starting at about the same time. We can compare notes on our different approaches.
 
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MasterGomez is a Patriarch, so I'm ready to delve into this build.

Quick question - since it appears that HFT is level-based, and the real Zen of this build is shattering frozen targets with CB, would the 3rd charge of PS do the trick if HFT isn't freezing the monsters?

As an aside, my Zon and Sorc are level 97 and my barb is level 96 - I'm thinking they might cow and MF their way to level 99.
 
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Hah i started one yesterday :). couldnt wait. Only lvl13 though.

Have all the necessary gear so its on with the leveling.

What other skills are you guys planning apart from Phoenix strike? Dtalon for the bosses maybe? Or Dtail as the guide advocates...

"Quick question - since it appears that HFT is level-based, and the real Zen of this build is shattering frozen targets with CB, would the 3rd charge of PS do the trick if HFT isn't freezing the monsters?"

I certainly hopes so..Would be the quickest way of delivering the knockout blow i think..
 
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Keep in mind that it appears that the guide is written to 1.10, apparently not realizing the nerf that Blade Shield got, and since the "Blender" build actually only requires a single point in a level 30 skill, it's really just an add-on to a standard Sin build. All the other considerations for a 1.09 Sin apply... kicks bite, Claws are WAY preferable to non-claws for regular melee due to the bugs, etc.

I'm still planning PS (especially for the freezing orb for the Blender), Claw Mastery, Shadow Master, BoS... I need to sit down and plan out her twinking and early (pre lvl 30) game. I'll probably pump Blade Shield for the duration.

My biggest challenge will be to figure out how get resists out of the remaining available slots. Iceblink + G-Face + Gob Toes takes up some space. I'm guessing I'll need to go shield instead of C/C just for the resists (use Moser's). I'm glad those Entrapping skillers will find a use.
 
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Hmm i am quite sure te guide is for 1.09. Several references to "will probably be removed in 1.10" etc.

The guide is full of inaccuries though.
Ophium set ftw :whistling:
Assasin skill rings (gimme gimme) :jig:

Yeah the resists will be a problem. Fade may be an idea (but Bos sis so nice though). Ah we will se when we get there i guess.

Getting to lvl 30 shouldnt be a big problem if you have Death set, bonesnap and Bos. Hell my sorc with base life opened a can of whoop *** on the monsters with bonesnap to lvl 30
 
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Well yeah, my Sin will be sporting my mix&match set twinking approach (Death + Angelic + Sigon's worked well for my Pally), but I'll probably use a claw instead of a set weapon to utilize the Mastery bug (it really sucks that Blizz didn't make unique claws other than Bartuc's) and avoid the AR bug.

Here are some pre-Bartucs claws I'm considering:

Code:
Bramble Song
Claws
One-Hand Damage: 14 to 25
Durability: 52 of 64
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 46
Required Strength: 46
Required Level: 15
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 30
Fingerprint: 0x192c49b2
+61% Enhanced Damage
+29 to Attack Rating
Adds 1-2 cold damage over 2 seconds
Hit Causes Monster to Flee 49%

Gale Barb
Blade Talons
One-Hand Damage: 18 to 24
Durability: 189 of 207          <---------Failed Unique
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 50
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 13
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0xb71d38c7
+64% Enhanced Damage
+44 to Attack Rating
Adds 1-7 fire damage
Adds 1-3 cold damage over 3 seconds
5% Chance to cast Level 1 Amplify Damage on striking

Glyph Bite
Scissors Katar
One-Hand Damage: 18 to 37
Durability: 138 of 204          <---------Failed Unique
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 39
Required Strength: 39
Required Level: 19
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 90
Fingerprint: 0xf55c3afe
+81% Enhanced Damage
+100 to Attack Rating
+5 to Maximum Damage
Requirements -30%
Ignore Target Defense

Soul Fist
Blade Talons
One-Hand Damage: 30 to 44
Durability: 59 of 69
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 50
Required Strength: 50
Required Level: 22
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 77
Fingerprint: 0xef392481
+122% Enhanced Damage
+70 to Attack Rating
+6 to Minimum Damage
+11 to Maximum Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
+1 to Assassin Skill Levels

or maybe load this up with Jewels of Envy:

Code:
Superior Claws
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 18
Durability: 58 of 64
(Assassin Only)
Required Dexterity: 46
Required Strength: 46
Claw Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: Expansion
Item Level: 55
Fingerprint: 0xb7037440
+15% Enhanced Damage
Socketed (3: 0 used)
 
Re: 1.09 Assassin Planning Questions/Build Proposal

Ok cool.

Were you planning a claw build when you get blade shield aswell? I am going the "black" route most likely as i dont have any bartucs or other good claws in 1.09..

Anywho Aninia (proud of that name :whistling:) is coming along fine. Lvl 22 In act 2 with merc (blessed aim) and wearing cathans helm,ring, full death set + angelic torso,ring and ammy. Planning to switch to bonesnap at 24 and after we will see...

Eric hows your progress and plans for the build?
 
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