OT: Mafia game

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These are all the notes I could find. This should be all, let me take a closer look at the bigger picture.

Gorny is found in a pool of blood, a broken vodka bottle seems to have been the weapon of choice. Written in blood was the following message "Zhao watch out lest you be next...was as quite a lot of blood to spill...here in the home of my favorite mod.
--Murder, Inc."

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As the town gathered for their morning meeting, they could be heard discussing amongst themselves concerning a disturbing sound during the night. It seemed that someone had laughed loudly for an hour then suddenly went silent. Everyone claimed they were too afraid to go out and investigate this strange phenomenon, so the mystery was unsolved.

Looking around, King Aman looked at his subjects before he began to make his morning address. However, he noticed that one familiar face was missing … that of the handsome and charismatic Zhao. Fearing the worst, King Aman rushed to Zhao’s house, while the crowd followed in his wake.

As King Aman approached the house, he noticed Zhao’s front door was ajar, and feared the worst. His tension increased as he rushed inside. Within, he spotted the lifeless body of Zhao. Upon closer inspection, he saw that his mouth was open wide and very dry. His eyes were bulging dangerously out of their sockets. And his face showed signs of extreme exhaustion and stress.

Overcome by grief King Aman shed a tear and someone from the crowd came over and hugged him. He could only conclude that the loud laughing was from Zhao as he was literally laughing himself to death.

Further searching of the house yielded no further clues to whether he was for or against the town, however, two messages were found. The first, a letter left next to the body

"Fluid is my nature
And Heinous are my crimes
I live to kill and kill to live
Already death has struck
Seven lucky times…
-Murder, Inc."

The second, written in what appeared to be blood, scrawled into the wall:

Phil,
Intelligence has left for “Pittsburgh.”
--Bugsy

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Seems everyone can't get enough of Zhao.

The notes came from 2 different parties

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thyiad was found dead with a note left at the scene of the crime.

Nice try, Liquid. You and I both know that Zhao was nothing more than a plain townie. You made a foolish error in claiming an incorrent role, especially a role that could've easily been verified by other masons. Too bad there is no one able to verify this false role. It might've worked. Too bad we want you dead...

- The Genova Gang

Solyentred was also found dead, a note written in blood was found and read as follows.

“I’m the spider to a vicious web of lies,
I tell you what you want to hear,
And then I eat up all the flies.
I must say that the killing is quite a lot of fun
But if you ever want to stop me…
…Then you must cut out my tongue.
--Liquid_Evil
Murder, Inc.”

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Ray Patean was found dead

There are 2 "G's" carved into Ray's forehead, and a large "X" carved over his heart with the knife that killed him in the center of said "X".


Bob is also found dead.

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Sorry for the Non-Posts last "Day". Had a little "Real Life Crisis" going on at work and I didn't get much of a chance to get on. By the time I did get on Liquid was a lock so I didn't post.

CC
Are you thinking an "SK" type do to no note left? 2 mafia groups AND an SK would make for a tough time for the town? Not impossble or anything with 20 players but we never had a 3 death night (excluding the bomb/Mod kills)?
 
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The notes from the non-Murder Inc. party were a bit too 'we' oriented imo. But it's very well possible that there's 2 Mafia parties since the SP dudes said that happened there too. But if there's at least 2 killers on the loose that doesn't bode well for us. We need the right lynch today or we won't make it. Let me read through the thread again.
 
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Crowd Control: Dash was the bomb. The first night he exploded and took spigot out with him.

As I recall:

Intelligent - Alive
Crowd Control - Alive
SiTro - Alive, Ray claimed townie
Orphan - Alive, claims mason
PureSummon - Alive
flip10 - Alive
Bob - Killed last night
Dii - Modkilled Day 1
Thy - Killed two nights ago
Gorny - Killed first night
Ray - Killed last night
Kertin - Modkilled Day 1
Nolecub - Lynched Day 1, doctor
Dash - Killed night 1, Liquid_Evil claimed bomb
Liq - Lynched yesterday, member of Murder, Inc.
Zhao - Killed night 2, ray claimed townie
Spigot - Killed night 1, Liquid_Evil claimed mafia "Midnight Killers"
Solyentred - Killed night before last. Liquid_Evil claimed godfather of "Midnight Killers"
Vorstel - Lynched Day 2, Paranoid cop
Hey - Modkilled Day 1


As to last night, I think there have been two mafia sides all the way through. Bear in mind a SK is basically a one person mafia anyway and the situations aren't much different if we have a mafia and an SK or two mafias.

Liq's last words were:

@ The rest of Murder, Inc. - Kill the person I mentioned during last night's discussion. If nothing else, the town can thank us for putting a stop to two kills a night.

Murder, Inc. still exist. This can be seen by the two deaths last night. So I'm inclined to trust this message more than pretty much anything else he said. Assuming it is true, then MI. believed Bob was a member of the other mafia group, who targetted Ray last night. Note that if the second group acted first there's no inconsistency with the observed events.

If there's only one mafia party left, then they have at most two members. We make the wrong lynch today and we lose the game.

If there's still both mafia sides left, then anything could be going on. Both sides need to eliminate the other as well as having at least as many members as there are townies left. It's actually possible that I'm the only townie left and the mafias have 3 and 2 members respectively. That's not a good thought - it means the town can't win.

I agree with Flip that if we had had three murderous parties then we would have seen more nights with three kills. Sure, there's the first night, but the fact that spigot and Dashy were mentioned as part of the same scene makes me think that their roles were related in that.

CrowdControl: It's possible the G's stand for Good Game? That's what I initially thought of anyway.



 
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Addendum - In my obituary list, it should be noted next to Thyiad that Ray claimed she was the cop and also that Ray claimed to be the deputy cop.
 
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Hmph... I am afraid I don't have any idea on who are mafia, so I guess I won't vote at the moment.
 
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Let me tell you where I'm at. I've read through the whole thread again quite neutral and only with the confirmed roles in the back of my head. I've documented every reply of all 5 of you. And I've reached a conclusion. It's hard to tell if there's still 1 or 2 killing groups active since Aman didn't mention any timestamps. It might be he let both kills happen anyway, but that it meant the end of one killing group last night. There's no way now to tell either way.

We're all positive Liq was from Murder Inc. since that was confirmed. So I retraced all his reactions to the rest of us 6. First of all he must've been in with Bob, I have no doubt about that. Bob's late vote on his lynch and the general alliance they kept couldn't mean anything but he was in it. I think killer group 2 (I guess that must be Genova Gang) knew this and sealed his fate with good reason.
Murder Inc. on the other hand has left the Townies alone for fear of victory of the GG. Ray must've been part of this gang. Ray was in the game all the time and seemed to know way too much for a plain Townie. That was why he was killed, he endangered Murder Inc. too much. Whoever was in GG more I couldn't tell but I think they're out of the game and that there's just 1 more Mafia killer left from Murder Inc. Reasoning brings me to the conclusion that Aman couldn't possibly have 2 Mafia teams of 4 players each, 3 would be the normal thing. That would be Liq, Bob and........IntX!
If you look at the interaction of Liq towards IntX they were minimum. The first day he didn't want to lock Liq's lynch under the pretense of:

I think liquid_evil has enough vote anyways so I am not going to vote him now =X

Or it is a must to vote?

Which didn't seem suspicious at all to me, but it does make him VERY suspicious today!
Now the second day, he wanted "to follow the crowd" and cast the obvious vote towards Liq, which didn't seem strange at all at that time:

Can't imagine stuff is going so fast in this mafia game...

Can't be bothered to read all entries, I think I will believe Orphan's analytic skills.

Vote: Liquid_Evil

Look up further interaction between him and Liq and note the apparent short replies towards eachother. Liq has been discussing every single detail with everyone on everything, but not with IntX (and Bob obviously). Here, one his 'conflicts' with Liq:

The noobish part is totally uncalled for.
I feel offended.

Furthermore, Liq does vote for IntX here:

Oh, and not that it matters but I’m going to vote IntelligentX just because he votes so poorly (or is purposely appearing to vote so poorly).
Vote: IntelligentX[/QUOTE]

And then suddenly Ray caught his attention:


unvote IntelligentX

My new vote is pending.

@ Puresummon- Why no analysis of SiTro and Orphan? (Also, no need to apologize for being 'unhelpful', that last post of yours shows way more effort than at least half the players still currently in the game)[/QUOTE] (shorted in for space)

I'm 90% positive that IntX is in this. I hope I can convince the other Townies to do the same as I do:

vote: IntelligentX


 
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Let me tell you where I'm at. I've read through the whole thread again quite neutral and only with the confirmed roles in the back of my head. I've documented every reply of all 5 of you. And I've reached a conclusion. It's hard to tell if there's still 1 or 2 killing groups active since Aman didn't mention any timestamps. It might be he let both kills happen anyway, but that it meant the end of one killing group last night. There's no way now to tell either way.

We're all positive Liq was from Murder Inc. since that was confirmed. So I retraced all his reactions to the rest of us 6. First of all he must've been in with Bob, I have no doubt about that. Bob's late vote on his lynch and the general alliance they kept couldn't mean anything but he was in it. I think killer group 2 (I guess that must be Genova Gang) knew this and sealed his fate with good reason.
Murder Inc. on the other hand has left the Townies alone for fear of victory of the GG. Ray must've been part of this gang. Ray was in the game all the time and seemed to know way too much for a plain Townie. That was why he was killed, he endangered Murder Inc. too much. Whoever was in GG more I couldn't tell but I think they're out of the game and that there's just 1 more Mafia killer left from Murder Inc. Reasoning brings me to the conclusion that Aman couldn't possibly have 2 Mafia teams of 4 players each, 3 would be the normal thing. That would be Liq, Bob and........IntX!
If you look at the interaction of Liq towards IntX they were minimum. The first day he didn't want to lock Liq's lynch under the pretense of:



Which didn't seem suspicious at all to me, but it does make him VERY suspicious today!
Now the second day, he wanted "to follow the crowd" and cast the obvious vote towards Liq, which didn't seem strange at all at that time:



Look up further interaction between him and Liq and note the apparent short replies towards eachother. Liq has been discussing every single detail with everyone on everything, but not with IntX (and Bob obviously). Here, one his 'conflicts' with Liq:



Furthermore, Liq does vote for IntX here:

Oh, and not that it matters but I’m going to vote IntelligentX just because he votes so poorly (or is purposely appearing to vote so poorly).
Vote: IntelligentX

And then suddenly Ray caught his attention:


unvote IntelligentX

My new vote is pending.

@ Puresummon- Why no analysis of SiTro and Orphan? (Also, no need to apologize for being 'unhelpful', that last post of yours shows way more effort than at least half the players still currently in the game)[/QUOTE] (shorted in for space)

I'm 90% positive that IntX is in this. I hope I can convince the other Townies to do the same as I do:

vote: IntelligentX[/QUOTE]

Go for it, I am not going to say anything about this.
I will let Aman tell you about my role and let you regret for voting against me.



 
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Hmm, the last part got a bit messy with editing. Let me redo that:

Furthermore, Liq does vote for IntX here:

Ummm...k.

Well for starters, at least the “Paranoid Cop” explains Vorsty being wrong about Gorny and myself.


I’m not even going to comment on these latest notes or why I’m still alive. Soylentred was the Godfather of the Midnight Killers and Thyiad was a plain townie.

I was going to make up a suspect list but somehow doubt anything I write is going to be believed anymore. Kudos to both mafia groups. (But there should only be 1 set of deaths starting tomorrow if that’s really the end of one whole mafia group assuming each team only had a lackey and a godfather, otherwise they’ll have 3 people to a group in which case the town is done for anyway)

@ Aman- For future games, no one should ever be able to sign notes as anyone else. It’s incriminating and not even really in the spirit of the game.

Oh, and not that it matters but I’m going to vote IntelligentX just because he votes so poorly (or is purposely appearing to vote so poorly).
Vote: IntelligentX


And then suddenly Ray caught his attention:

unvote IntelligentX

My new vote is pending.

@ Puresummon- Why no analysis of SiTro and Orphan? (Also, no need to apologize for being 'unhelpful', that last post of yours shows way more effort than at least half the players still currently in the game)
(shorted in for space)


 
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Go for it, I am not going to say anything about this.
I will let Aman tell you about my role and let you regret for voting against me.

I assume this is the reply you want to give to me? So you're not denying either? I thought I was right on this. Furthermore, you confirmed my belief Aman isn't the regular host either. One post about that laughing part of Zhao brought it up, that deathwrite up was actually the only real write up and it involved the host himself. That was pretty strange to say the least. I'm not sure though.

As for the other Townies, I didn't have to look very much into them. Apart from SiTro none of them posted much. Which makes me believe Pure, Flip and Orph might even be the Masons mentioned earlier. SiTro is probably the mass posting einzelganger.


 
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Crowd Control I appreciate you trying to start some discussion and come up with some analysis and a vote. However, looking back over the thread I just do not get the same feeling that you did. I could be wrong, as I have nothing to base that on. What I did pick up on was the fact that Flip, while maybe indeed having a RL emergency for one of the day periods, has only posted six times and brought no real attempt at analysis. For that sake, and the known- Mafia tactic of laying just below the radar:

Vote:Flip10thMtn
 
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You didn't post much either and I don't blame you. Hell maybe all your 15 posts were in this thread, but that doesn't make you Mafia. I'm pretty certain that at least you and Flip are Townies when I look at how suspicious IntX has been. Please reread my post and see that I'm right. I need your vote, or the Townies won't make it.
 
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Maybe you are right CC. At this point, there is not a whole lot to go on either way. For all I know you are trying to steer us and wrap this thing up. But at this point, we have to lynch someone and no one else seems to be adding anything.

Unvote

Vote: IntelligentX
 
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Intelligent: I am not locked in to voting for you. I would like to at least see you try to defend yourself. I know you have said you didn't have the time and speed for this game, and I can agree with and appreciate that, but the town would benefit from some kind of defense. This could be the last day if we vote wrong here.
 
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I don't know how to defend myself, but what I can say about myself is - I am just a pure townie.

I think you all are too good for this game, leaving slow people like me get suspected pretty much for not saying too much... but now this is the truth that I am a townie.

CC, probably you won't use last game as reference, but I think my behaviour in this game is so different from last game you hosted. A distinct example will be that I vote with confident and without hassle in last game, but in this game, I vote other people like a coward and often not vote and/or follow the crowd. Last game I was a mafia and therefore I post/vote with communication with mafia member. I guess normally if you are mafia, you will team up each other and eliminate other unwanted townie, and not being like a coward and not voting anyone?

You know, one vote probably useless in the beginning in the game, but one vote is enough to kill an opponent when only 2 or 3 people left. But now I choose to unvote! Why? Because I seriously don't know what the hell is going on!

Now, end of my so-called defense. The last word I wanna say is... I am innocent.

And isn't Aman will tell us all about the role of the person who got lynched?
 
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Pure-

I admit I've been laying low; in my defense it seemed the only way to survive. If you look back everyone who posted was soon questioned then killed one way or another. I hate to say that Liquid had me fooled like some of you also, so my "wisdom" might not have helped much.
I know the time has come to no loner be quiet!

Here's what I got:
Killers-
Serdash/Spigot One killer/One Bomb
Liquid: Lynch - mafia Murder Inc

So thats only TWO down for sure.

Town
Nolecub: Doc Lynched
Votrel: paranoid Cop Lynched

Self proclaimed Townies
(92) Sitro
(247) IntelligentX
(285) Orphan - mason

This is a stretch but one one of the first nores:
Phil,
Intelligence has left for “Pittsburgh.â€
--Bugsy
It mentions Intellegence?

Last message - large X on chest?

Could this be IntelligentX hiding in plain site, or a ruse to get him lynched?
 
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Coming down to the wire-

Gotta go with
Vote: IntelligentX
 
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