Re: OT: Mafia game
Some thoughts.
Puresummon
10 posts. One of the new players, but seems to have been posting consistently after a somewhat shaky start IMO. Don't really see anything too troubling here. Has voted for both the doctor and the paranoid cop, but then that's a mistake made by the best of us.
IntelligentX
11 posts. Made jokes relating to previous games at the start. Follows the crowd with voting a lot of the time, content to let other people make their reasoning and votes alongside that easily. Has threatened not to vote on a day due to the tone of some posts sounding like flames. Later states he believes Orphan because he doesn't have enough time to read all the posts. Some conversation with Liquid_Evil about this. Not especially pro-town, but doesn't appear to have a second agenda.
Crowd Control
22 posts. Posts well, some doubt about Liquid_Evil's guilt during the first day, some suspicion that the style of the first note was similar to his style of writing. No real sense either way here.
Flip10thMtn
5 posts. Confirms Liquid's vote count. Happy to trust the hunch of another player. Subsequently questions the game rules, arguing for a slightly stronger mafia role. Not necessarily malevolent however. Again, happy to believe someone else's reasoning about voting. Some talk about the speed of the game, plus saying he's going to read through again to consider the options before voting. Hopefully.
BobTheWarrior
13 posts. First post assumes the presence of a serial killer. Now seems there's two mafia groups operating which means this wasn't knowledge he shouldn't have had. However it's still possible that one 'group' is just one player lying about their numbers. Siome criticism of the votes against Zhao. Good call, that was pure bandwagoning. Initially suspicious of Crowd Control due to a similar style of writing in the first day's note. (What's your current read?) Day 2 defends Liquid's monster post using a recourse to previous games. Good reasoning as to why Liquid survived the second night. (Why does he survive yet though?) Good consideration of possible roles.
Liquid_Evil
29 posts. Some varied discussion the first day, which seems to have since boiled down into a running discussion between himself and Ray. Stresses early his tendancy to go for the lynch. Matches with experience of playing SPF games with him. Voted with the first day Zhao bandwagon however on the basis of reducing the information supplied to the town. Weak reasoning to join a dodgy vote trail. Possibly also fuelled by PvP rivalries? Called Hey on weak voting strategies until Hey suicided out. Discussion with Nolecub that ended with Nolecub coming off in quite a bad light. Claims "Coroner" role, a townie with the ability to reveal the roles of NK's. Contested by the late Zhao_Yue, who says the Coroner is a role of Liq's own invention during a conversation about possible roles for a game hosted by Zhao. Unknown whether Aman was present for this conversation or not. Has so far made the following list of claims as to players' roles:
*Gorny = townie
*Serdash = Bomb
* spigot = Mafia [Midnight Killers]
* Zhao_Yue = Bitterroot Mason
* Solyentred = Godfather Mafia [Midknight Killers]
* Thyiad = Townie
I'm not entirely sure that we have any reason to believe that Midnight Killers is in fact the name of the second mafia group as the only player who's introduced it to the discussion is Liquid_Evil himself. Furthermore we haven't heard from any Bitterroot Mason* confirming Zhao's allegiance, so that's doubtful as well. Finally, the Godfather's role is not normally revealed to the town on a lynching, so it wouldn't make sense for Aman to tell Liq that Solyentred was the MK Godfather in a pm. Today's posts have largely focussed on an explanation as to why he and vorstelman were able to disagree yesterday. Convenient enough. Apart from that the discussion with Ray has continued. Increasing evidence now going past the "This is a set-up" point and towards the "This is a set-up set-up" point.
* For those who crave contrived explanations as to why someone is guilty, check out this quote:
Wikipedia said:
Bitterroot
The Lemhi Shoshone believed the small red core found in the upper taproot had special powers, notably being able to stop a bear attack.
Now, wouldn't it be ironic if a Bitterroot Mason taking his name from a plant giving protection against bear attacks died to a NK by Liquid_Evil, a D2 Druid fanatic where the Druid can shapeshift into a bear?...
Ray Patean
19 posts. Has made fairly cautious posts since the beginning of the game, although accurate for the most part. Again, fits the playstyle I've observed before. Spotted the hidden message in the first note. Some speculation that the fact he knew it was there yet it passed everyone else by is suspicious. Got involved with the Liquid - Zhao discussion on the first day. Notes that not everyone is posting useful information. Points out Liquid's error in naming Solyentred as a mafia Godfather. Has moved from a passive disagreement with Liquid_Evil to an active one, probably due to the death of Zhao_Yue. Has mimicked the opening style of one of my own posts - just noticed this, nice touch. Convinced Liquid_Evil is mafia.
Orphan
7 posts. Discusses the possible reference to the mod in the first note. Good reasoning throughout though, nothing that really stands out as alarming.
SiTro
19 posts (now 20). Makes jokes in his first post - nervousness? Mocks Serdash somewhat, probably not a good move. Did hint towards Serdash and spigot being an example of the lovers role (check the flash site Liq's using to pull roles from). Early vote for Zhao, little reasoning. Later revealed it to have been a ploy to see who would be keen to vote with him so soon. Seemed to have a possible explanation for why there were three deaths in the first night, hasn't really mentioned it since the arrival of other possible theories. Seems to be posting with a different style, this was picked up on by Liquid_Evil on Day 1. Could be being done to keep the interest going, could just be revealing his inner nutcase. Strong aversion to people telling him directly they are townies. Tends to call out people who vote for little or no reason. Would like to see more of the opposite. Appears to analyse players actions by considering what he would do in their position for a given role. Some comments about Aman's style of moderating. Has voted to lynch both the doctor and the paranoid cop. See Puresummon. Showed an initial tendancy to write monster posts with lots of cross-quoting. This has slackened off as time has passed. Maybe a return soon. Arrogant enough to devote so much of this post to a self-analysis. Git.
Am currently wondering about possible angles to take with all this. Currently have a model that I'm trying to explain the flaws of but it's not good enough for me to present just yet. I'm going to hold off voting for the moment and see how today progresses.
