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	===Rescue on Mount ~~Arreats~~===		===Rescue on Mount Arreat===
	This [[Quests_Act_Five#Quest_Two:_Rescue_on_Mt._Arreat\|second quest in Act Five]] is easily accomplished, and your character will receive a [[Tal]] (r07), a [[Ral]] (r08), and an [[Ort]] (r09) rune as a reward for completing it. Not a huge reward, but for players who save all their runes to upgrade, every one helps.		This [[Quests_Act_Five#Quest_Two:_Rescue_on_Mt._Arreat\|second quest in Act Five]] is easily accomplished, and your character will receive a [[Tal]] (r07), a [[Ral]] (r08), and an [[Ort]] (r09) rune as a reward for completing it. Not a huge reward, but for players who save all their runes to upgrade, every one helps.


	==Chests==		==Chests==

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	==Rune Drop Odds==		==Rune Drop Odds==
	A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.		A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.

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	A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.		A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.

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	{{Item navbox\|{{Runes}}}}Finding [[runes]], especially higher level runes, is an obsession for many players. This can be a chore, since there's no way to use equipment to increase your odds of finding more runes, or higher level runes. [[Magic Find]] has no effect on rune drops, either quality or quantity; the way to find runes is to kill lots of [[monster]]s in larger games, so more total [[item]]s drop.		{{Item navbox\|{{Runes}}}}Finding [[runes]], especially higher level runes, is an obsession for many players. This can be a chore, since there's no way to use equipment to increase your odds of finding more runes, or higher level runes. [[Magic Find]] has no effect on rune drops, either quality or quantity; the way to find runes is to kill lots of [[monster]]s in larger games, so more total [[item]]s drop.
			* Refer to the giant [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik]] for much more detail and information about how and where best to find runes.


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	Since rune finding is largely a crap shoot, it's best to kill quickly where your character is most capable of killing quickly. Levels with a lot of monsters are best, simply to increase the total item drops. Places like the [[Secret Cow Level]], the [[Flayer Jungle]], or the surface areas of [[Act I\|Act One]] (with their teeming [[Fallen]] camps) are popular killing zones due to the high density of fairly weak monsters.		Since rune finding is largely a crap shoot, it's best to kill quickly where your character is most capable of killing quickly. Levels with a lot of monsters are best, simply to increase the total item drops. Places like the [[Secret Cow Level]], the [[Flayer Jungle]], or the surface areas of [[Act I\|Act One]] (with their teeming [[Fallen]] camps) are popular killing zones due to the high density of fairly weak monsters.



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	A few monster types have higher odds of dropping runes because they can not drop [[armor]] or [[weapon]]s, and thus spit out more runes since they have fewer other possible drops. These include [[Wraith]]s, [[Finger Mage]]s, [[Vulture Demon]]s, [[Willowisp]]s, and the [[Swarm]]. These monsters are worth harvesting while rune hunting, but they spawn infrequently and in underwhelming numbers, so few players will find it worth the effort for the slight increase in the odds of finding runes.		A few monster types have higher odds of dropping runes because they can not drop [[armor]] or [[weapon]]s, and thus spit out more runes since they have fewer other possible drops. These include [[Wraith]]s, [[Finger Mage]]s, [[Vulture Demon]]s, [[Willowisp]]s, and the [[Swarm]]. These monsters are worth harvesting while rune hunting, but they spawn infrequently and in underwhelming numbers, so few players will find it worth the effort for the slight increase in the odds of finding runes.



	==Quests==		==Quests==
	~~Several~~ [[quest]]s grant runes as part of their reward.		Three [[quest]]s grant runes as part of their reward.



	===Forgotten Tower===		===Forgotten Tower===
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	===Rescue on Mount Arreats===		===Rescue on Mount Arreats===
	This [[Quests_Act_Five#Quest_Two:_Rescue_on_Mt._Arreat\|second quest in Act Five]] is easily accomplished, and your character will receive a [[Tal]] (r07), a [[Ral]] (r08), and an [[Ort]] (r09) rune as a reward for completing it. Not a huge reward, but for players who save all their runes to upgrade, every one helps.		This [[Quests_Act_Five#Quest_Two:_Rescue_on_Mt._Arreat\|second quest in Act Five]] is easily accomplished, and your character will receive a [[Tal]] (r07), a [[Ral]] (r08), and an [[Ort]] (r09) rune as a reward for completing it. Not a huge reward, but for players who save all their runes to upgrade, every one helps.



	==Chests==		==Chests==
	[[Chest]]s (this includes barrels, crates, hidden stashes, etc) are an excellent source of items, including runes.		[[Chest]]s (this includes barrels, crates, hidden stashes, etc) are an excellent source of items, including runes. See the super quests discussion in the [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik]] for more details.



	===More Players = More Runes===		===More Players = More Runes===
	More players in the game increase the quantity of items found from [chest]s, by decreasing the odds that the game will select the "NoDrop" option.		More players in the game increase the quantity of items found from [chest]s, by decreasing the odds that the game will select the "NoDrop" option.

	Total players in the game (no party) — Chance of non-locked chest to drop nothing at all:		Total players in the game (no party) — Chance of non-locked chest to drop nothing at all:
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	* 5 or 6 — 26,0%		* 5 or 6 — 26,0%
	* 7 or 8 — 25,2%		* 7 or 8 — 25,2%

			This must be balanced with your overall killing time; taking 3x longer to kill monsters for 2x the drops is not a winning strategy.


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			==Upgrading==
			Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which means collecting them and building toward the high level runes required by the biggest [[Runewords]] is now a possibility for all patient players.

	~~==Upgrading==~~		Mathematically speaking, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes, and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and 1,088,393,215 assorted gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes. Lower runes can be helpful for other purposes though, and are used in various cube and crafting recipes.
	Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which means collecting them and building toward the high level runes required by the biggest [[Runewords]] is now a possibility for all patient players. Mathematically speaking ~~however~~, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes, and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and 1,088,393,215 assorted gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes.
			* Full [[Cube Recipes]] list.

	~~==Statistics==~~

	~~Here is some hard statistics in where to find runes.~~

	==~~=Forgotten Tower=~~==		==Rune Drop Odds==
	~~This is~~ the ~~semi-rare~~ runes ~~found when defeating~~ the ~~countess 155 times "/players 1" and with no magic find~~. ~~<br>~~		A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.
	~~1 x [[Dol]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Hel]]<br>~~
	~~4 X [[Io]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Ko]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Fal]]<br>~~

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	~~All found in Hell difficulty when clearing the Hellforge quest.<br>~~
	~~2 x~~ [[~~Hel]]<br>~~
	~~2 x [[Io]]<br>~~
	~~2 x [[Fal]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Lem]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Pul]]<br>~~
	~~3 x [[Um]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Mal]]<br>~~
	~~2 x [[Ist]]<br>~~
	~~1 x [[Gul~~]]~~<br>~~

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	==Upgrading==		==Upgrading==
	Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which means collecting them and building toward the high level runes required by the biggest [[Runewords]] is now a possibility for all patient players. Mathematically speaking however, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes, and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and ~~countless~~ gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes.		Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which means collecting them and building toward the high level runes required by the biggest [[Runewords]] is now a possibility for all patient players. Mathematically speaking however, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes, and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and 1,088,393,215 assorted gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes.

	==Statistics==		==Statistics==

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	==Upgrading==		==Upgrading==
	Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which ~~makes~~ collecting and building ~~towards~~ the high level runes the biggest [[Runewords]] ~~require~~ a possibility for all patient players. Mathematically speaking however, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and countless gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes.		Prior to [[v1.10]], it was hit or miss obtaining runes above [[Ort]], since only the first nine runes could be upgraded in the [[Horadric Cube]]. This changed in v1.10, when [[Rune list\|rune upgrade recipes]] were added that could turn [[El]]s into a [[Zod]]. That would take over 14 trillion Els, but it's now possible to upgrade to all levels of runes, which means collecting them and building toward the high level runes required by the biggest [[Runewords]] is now a possibility for all patient players. Mathematically speaking however, expecting to save and transmute the lowest runes into the highest ones is virtually impossible. It would take exactly 3,486,784,401 El runes to make a [[Pul]] rune, which is one of the first highly tradable runes, and to create your own Zod from El runes you would need 14,281,868,906,496 El runes and countless gems. If you are looking to make some of the highest runes you are simply wasting your time collecting any of the lower runes.


	==Statistics==		==Statistics==

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	===Hellforge===		===Hellforge===
	All found in Hell difficulty when clearing the Hellforge quest.		All found in Hell difficulty when clearing the Hellforge quest.<br>
	2 x [[Hel]]<br>		2 x [[Hel]]<br>
	2 x [[Io]]<br>		2 x [[Io]]<br>

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	===Forgotten Tower===		===Forgotten Tower===
	This is the semi-rare runes found when defeating the countess 155 times "/players 1" and with no magic find.		This is the semi-rare runes found when defeating the countess 155 times "/players 1" and with no magic find. <br>
	1 x [[Dol]]<br>		1 x [[Dol]]<br>
	1 x [[Hel]]<br>		1 x [[Hel]]<br>
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	1 x [[Ko]]<br>		1 x [[Ko]]<br>
	1 x [[Fal]]<br>		1 x [[Fal]]<br>


	===Hellforge===		===Hellforge===

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	The Countess has better odds to drop a higher level rune the first time a player kills her on [[Nightmare]] or [[Hell]] difficulties, when they get credit for completing the quest. This is reflected in the different odds for [[Io]]/[[Ko]] and [[Ist]]/[[Lo]] listed above. Her odds of dropping her highest possible runes are always astronomical, but they are slightly better the first time than the other times.		The Countess has better odds to drop a higher level rune the first time a player kills her on [[Nightmare]] or [[Hell]] difficulties, when they get credit for completing the quest. This is reflected in the different odds for [[Io]]/[[Ko]] and [[Ist]]/[[Lo]] listed above. Her odds of dropping her highest possible runes are always astronomical, but they are slightly better the first time than the other times.

	She is capable of dropping up to six runes each death, and will often drop two or three. They're very unlikely to be higher than [[Tir]] or [[Eth]], but reports of two [[~~Hels~~]], and a couple of other mid-level runes are not uncommon, so it's possible.		She is capable of dropping up to six runes each death, and will often drop two or three. They're very unlikely to be higher than [[Tir]] or [[Eth]], but reports of two [[Hel]]s, and a couple of other mid-level runes are not uncommon, so it's possible.



	===The Hellforge===		===The Hellforge===

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	A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.		A pair of charts taken from [[Rune Finder Guide by Urlik\|Urlik's Rune Finder Guide]] illustrating the scarcity of higher level runes. These odds are accurate or v1.10+, and are based on the drop coming from a monster or object that could theoretically drop a Zod rune.

	[[Image:~~Urlik12~~.jpg\|center\|thumb\|800px]]		[[Image:Urlik11.jpg\|center\|thumb\|800px]]

	[[Image:Urlik12.jpg\|center\|thumb\|500px]]		[[Image:Urlik12.jpg\|center\|thumb\|500px]]