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Item Type Determination

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82.41.176.69: quality %s had a decimal place error

2010-05-14T21:26:10Z

quality %s had a decimal place error

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	Post v1.09, the odds to determine item quality are fairly simple:		Post v1.09, the odds to determine item quality are fairly simple:
	* [[Uniques\|Unique]]: 1/2000 (.~~005~~%)		* [[Uniques\|Unique]]: 1/2000 (.05%)
	* [[Item Set\|Set]]: 2/2000 (.01%)		* [[Item Set\|Set]]: 2/2000 (.1%)
	* [[Rare]]: 200/2000 (10%)		* [[Rare]]: 200/2000 (10%)
	* [[Magic]]al: 1797/2000 (89%)		* [[Magic]]al: 1797/2000 (89%)

82.41.176.69: ilvl vs qlvl clairifications

2010-05-14T21:10:00Z

ilvl vs qlvl clairifications

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	If you're after a specific modifier, or group of modifiers, you'll want to compare the [[Alvl]]s of those items. (See the [[prefixes]] and [[suffixes]] pages.) You'll need to exceed the Alvl of an item to have it in the available modifier pool, though there is some randomization to the levels of items and modifiers when gambling (explained below).		If you're after a specific modifier, or group of modifiers, you'll want to compare the [[Alvl]]s of those items. (See the [[prefixes]] and [[suffixes]] pages.) You'll need to exceed the Alvl of an item to have it in the available modifier pool, though there is some randomization to the levels of items and modifiers when gambling (explained below).

	There are also sweet spots, when good modifiers are available, but before additional modifiers become possible and dilute the odds of getting the good ones you want. If, for instance, the modifier you want on a glove is Alvl 50, and you notice that seven more modifiers become possible on gloves at Alvl 60, you'll have better odds of getting the modifier you want before the [[~~Qlvl~~]]s of items exceed 60. See the details on determining Alvl and ~~Qlvl~~ further down this page.		There are also sweet spots, when good modifiers are available, but before additional modifiers become possible and dilute the odds of getting the good ones you want. If, for instance, the modifier you want on a glove is Alvl 50, and you notice that seven more modifiers become possible on gloves at Alvl 60, you'll have better odds of getting the modifier you want before the [[ilvl]]s of items exceed 60. See the details on determining Alvl and ilvl further down this page.


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	These odds are unaffected by any other factor. [[Clvl]], item type, players in the game, [[magic find]], etc. Just gamble and cross your fingers.		These odds are unaffected by any other factor. [[Clvl]], item type, players in the game, [[magic find]], etc. Just gamble and cross your fingers.

	The odds that item types will upgrade to [[exceptional]] and [[elite]] are more complicated to calculate. They depend on Clvl and [[~~Ilvl~~]]. Higher level characters are more likely to get exceptional and elite items, and lower level items are more likely to upgrade to exceptional and elite. The formulas are as follows:		The odds that item types will upgrade to [[exceptional]] and [[elite]] are more complicated to calculate. They depend on Clvl and [[ilvl]]. Higher level characters are more likely to get exceptional and elite items, and lower level items are more likely to upgrade to exceptional and elite. The formulas are as follows:
	* Exceptional = 1 + (ilvl - excep qlvl) * 90 / 100		* Exceptional = 1 + (ilvl - excep qlvl) * 90 / 100
	* Elite = 1 + (ilvl - elite qlvl) * 33 / 100		* Elite = 1 + (ilvl - elite qlvl) * 33 / 100
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	==Item Modifier Determination==		==Item Modifier Determination==
	The process of determining which affixes ([[prefix]]es and [[suffix]]es) can occur on a given item in ''[[Diablo II]]'' is very complicated. Check out the [[Item_Generation_Tutorial#Affix_selection\|Item Generation Tutorial]] for a full run down. The gist of the process is that items have ~~a quality level~~ ([[~~Qlvl~~]]) which the game uses to determine which affixes (based on their [[Alvl]]) can possibly appear on that item. From the valid pool of [[modifier]]s (based on item type and ~~Qlvl~~) it then selects one or more modifiers.		The process of determining which affixes ([[prefix]]es and [[suffix]]es) can occur on a given item in ''[[Diablo II]]'' is very complicated. Check out the [[Item_Generation_Tutorial#Affix_selection\|Item Generation Tutorial]] for a full run down. The gist of the process is that items have an Item Level ([[ilvl]]) which the game uses to determine which affixes (based on their [[Alvl]]) can possibly appear on that item. From the valid pool of [[modifier]]s (based on item type and ilvl) it then selects one or more modifiers.

	For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's ~~Qlvl~~ is determined by the monster's level, or the ~~Ilvl~~ of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, ~~Qlvl~~ is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.		For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's ilvl is determined by the monster's level, or the levle of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, ilvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.
	Clvl ~~= Qlvl~~ +4/-5.		ilvl = Clvl +4/-5.
	This means that the ~~Qlvl~~ of the item will be somewhere between -5 and +4 the Clvl. Thus, when trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a ~~Qlvl~~ 90 amulet at level 86, a 50% chance at level 90, and a 100% chance at level 95 and above.		This means that the ilvl of the item will be somewhere between -5 and +4 the Clvl. Thus, when trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a ilvl 90 amulet at level 86, a 50% chance at level 90, and a 100% chance at level 95 and above.

	===Circlets and Mlvls===		===Circlets and Mlvls===
	[[Circlet]]s add an oddity to this, with their [[mlvl]]. This is a ~~[[magic level]]~~ bonus that makes all types of circlets higher ~~in Qlvl~~ than other items gambled by the same character.		[[Circlet]]s add an oddity to this, with their [[mlvl]]. This is a bonus that makes all types of circlets get higher level affixes than other items gambled by the same character.
	* Circlets: 3		* Circlets: 3
	* Coronets: 8		* Coronets: 8
	* Tiaras: 13		* Tiaras: 13
	* Diadems: 18		* Diadems: 18
	Thus, a coronet gambled by a level 70 character would have ~~a Qlvl~~ of ~~78,~~ and ~~level~~ 82 ~~characters are guaranteed to~~ have a chance at +2 skills (Alvl 90) when gambling coronets.		Thus, a coronet gambled by a level 70 character would have at an ilvl of 65 - 74 and thus get bonuses as high as 73 - 82. To have a guaranteed chance at +2 skills (Alvl 90) when gambling coronets, a character would have to be 87 (87 - 5 + 8 = 90).


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	The level of your character determines, with some allowance for chance, which types of base items can be displayed in the gambling window. This is an important consideration for low and mid-level characters, but becomes irrelevant for higher level heroes. Past level 56, every type of item can appear in the gambling window, and it's sheer luck which do or do not on a given gamble (aside from [[ring]]s and [[amulet]]s, one of each will always appear).		The level of your character determines, with some allowance for chance, which types of base items can be displayed in the gambling window. This is an important consideration for low and mid-level characters, but becomes irrelevant for higher level heroes. Past level 56, every type of item can appear in the gambling window, and it's sheer luck which do or do not on a given gamble (aside from [[ring]]s and [[amulet]]s, one of each will always appear).

	This ~~[[ilvl]]~~ calculation affects only the types of base items available to gamble from. It does not factor into the modifiers that can be found on those items, which are also determined largely by a [[Character level\|character's level]]. For instance, just because a level 60 [[Sorceress]] has a chance to see a coronet every time the gamble window loads, doesn't mean she can ever get +2 to all skills on a coronet she gambles (she can not, her clvl is much too low).		This calculation affects only the types of base items available to gamble from. It does not factor into the modifiers that can be found on those items, which are also determined largely by a [[Character level\|character's level]]. For instance, just because a level 60 [[Sorceress]] has a chance to see a coronet every time the gamble window loads, doesn't mean she can ever get +2 to all skills on a coronet she gambles (she can not, her clvl is much too low).

	The calculation of which item types can appear is partially random, since when the item types are selected the game throws in a +4/-5 value on top of your Clvl, just to stir things up a bit. This has no effect on higher level characters, but can tweak things a bit for newer heroes.		The calculation of which item types can appear is partially random, since when the item types are selected the game throws in a +4/-5 value on top of your Clvl, just to stir things up a bit. This has no effect on higher level characters, but can tweak things a bit for newer heroes.

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82.41.176.69: /* Item Modifier Determination */

2009-11-19T22:01:08Z

Item Modifier Determination

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	For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.		For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.
	Clvl = Qlvl +6/-3.		Clvl = Qlvl +4/-5.
	This means that the Qlvl of the item will be somewhere between -3 and +6 the Clvl. Thus, when trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a Qlvl 90 amulet at level 84, a 50% chance at level 88, and a 100% chance at level 93 and above.		This means that the Qlvl of the item will be somewhere between -5 and +4 the Clvl. Thus, when trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a Qlvl 90 amulet at level 86, a 50% chance at level 90, and a 100% chance at level 95 and above.

	==Circlets and Mlvls==		==Circlets and Mlvls==

82.41.176.69: /* Item Modifier Determination */ sp

2008-10-22T19:04:11Z

Item Modifier Determination: sp

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	For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.		For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.
	Clvl = Qlvl +6/-3.		Clvl = Qlvl +6/-3.
	This means that the Qlvl of the item will be somewhere between -3 and +6 the Clvl. Thus, ~~whey~~ trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a Qlvl 90 amulet at level 84, a 50% chance at level 88, and a 100% chance at level 93 and above.		This means that the Qlvl of the item will be somewhere between -3 and +6 the Clvl. Thus, when trying to gamble the Alvl 90 modifier that adds +2 to a character's skills on an amulet, there's a 10% chance of getting a Qlvl 90 amulet at level 84, a 50% chance at level 88, and a 100% chance at level 93 and above.

	==Circlets and Mlvls==		==Circlets and Mlvls==

82.41.176.69 at 14:11, 21 August 2008

2008-08-21T14:11:19Z

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	Gambling is both a way to burn off extra [[gold]] and a way to improve your character's equipment. While most long term equipment needs will be met by runewords, uniques, and sets, gambling can be a very good way to upgrade a new character's equipment, and to score high quality rare armor and weapons. Gambling can provide set and unique items too, though the odds of rolling them are very long, and the odds of gambling any particular exceptional or elite set/unique item are astronomical.		{{Item navbox}}Gambling is both a way to burn off extra [[gold]] and a way to improve your character's equipment. While most long term equipment needs will be met by runewords, uniques, and sets, gambling can be a very good way to upgrade a new character's equipment, and to score high quality rare armor and weapons. Gambling can provide set and unique items too, though the odds of rolling them are very long, and the odds of gambling any particular exceptional or elite set/unique item are astronomical.

82.41.176.69: /* Item Modifier Determination */

2008-08-01T21:08:33Z

Item Modifier Determination

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	=Item Modifier Determination=		=Item Modifier Determination=

	The process of determining which affixes (prefixes and suffixes) can occur on a given item in ''Diablo II'' is very complicated. Check out the [[Item_Generation_Tutorial#Affix_selection\|Item Generation Tutorial for a full run down. The gist of the process is that items have a quality level (Qlvl) which the game uses to determine which affixes (based on their Alvl) can possibly appear on that item. From the valid pool of modifiers (based on item type and Qlvl) it then selects one or more modifiers.		The process of determining which affixes (prefixes and suffixes) can occur on a given item in ''Diablo II'' is very complicated. Check out the [[Item_Generation_Tutorial#Affix_selection\|Item Generation Tutorial]] for a full run down. The gist of the process is that items have a quality level (Qlvl) which the game uses to determine which affixes (based on their Alvl) can possibly appear on that item. From the valid pool of modifiers (based on item type and Qlvl) it then selects one or more modifiers.

	For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.		For item drops (by monsters or chests) the item's Qlvl is determined by the monster's level, or the Ilvl of the area in which the chest was found. For gambling, Qlvl is determined by the level of the character gambling, with some randomness thrown in.
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	* Diadems: 18		* Diadems: 18
	Thus, a coronet gambled by a level 70 character would have a Qlvl of 78, and level 82 characters are guaranteed to have a chance at +2 skills (Alvl 90) when gambling coronets.		Thus, a coronet gambled by a level 70 character would have a Qlvl of 78, and level 82 characters are guaranteed to have a chance at +2 skills (Alvl 90) when gambling coronets.


	=Item Type Determination=		=Item Type Determination=

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-Gambling.
+Gambling is both a way to burn off extra [[gold]] and a way to improve your character's equipment. While most long term equipment needs will be met by runewords, uniques, and sets, gambling can be a very good way to upgrade a new character's equipment, and to score high quality rare armor and weapons. Gambling can provide set and unique items too, though the odds of rolling them are very long, and the odds of gambling any particular exceptional or elite set/unique item are astronomical.
-The quality level of an item is used in many game calculations, including gambling. A character's clvl must meet or exceed the base item's level for that item to display in the gambling window.  This relationship is complicated by an element of luck; when the item window is rolled, the clvl is calculated at +4/-5, for every item in the window that time. This makes no difference to high level characters, but in the low and mid levels it is a non-trivial issue.
+The quality of items is determined entirely by the level of the character gambling. It does not matter what difficulty level or act you gamble in, how many players are in the game, if you're wearing magic find equipment, etc.
-For instance, the Coronet is base level 52, so a character as low as level 48 might see it (+4), while a character as high as 56 might not (-5).
+The items available on a gamble screen reset as soon as the screen is closed. Most players load the gambling screen repeatedly when looking for specific item types.
-To figure the odds of an item upgrading to Exceptional or Elite, factor in the Clvl again.
+The item types offered to gamble for are determined by your character's level, but only in that higher level characters get more item types offered to them. This only matters to low and mid-level characters, and every type of item is available after Clvl 55.
-To figure out at what Character levels a base item type will be available for Gambling, subtract 4 from the item's quality level, for having a chance to upgrade to Exceptional subtract 5, and for Elite subtract 7. Note: Item types that are not listed are not available for Gambling.
+Items offered on the gambling screen are randomly determined, with one exception. There is always one amulet and one ring.
-The chances for every item quality are:
+The prices for gambled items steadily increase as a character's level increases, with one exception. Rings are always 50,000 and amulets are always 63,000.
 * Unique: 1/2000 (.005%)
 * Set: 2/2000 (.01%)
 * Rare: 200/2000 (10%)
 * Magical: 1797/2000 (89%)
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82.41.176.69: Gamble moved to Gambling: convenience

2008-06-09T04:13:54Z

Gamble moved to Gambling: convenience

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